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ansible

(1,718 posts)
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 09:50 PM Apr 2020

US source: North Korean leader in grave danger after surgery

Source: cnn

(CNN)The US is monitoring intelligence that North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, is in grave danger after a surgery, according to a US official with direct knowledge.

Kim recently missed the celebration of his grandfather's birthday on April 15, which raised speculation about his well-being. He had been seen four days before that at a government meeting.

CNN has reached out to the CIA, National Security Counsel and the State Department for comment. CNN has also sought comment from the South Koreans.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/politics/kim-jong-un-north-korea/index.html

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US source: North Korean leader in grave danger after surgery (Original Post) ansible Apr 2020 OP
Thoughts and prayers? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #1
Fact...... Traildogbob Apr 2020 #2
Gastric bypass surgery? Dopers_Greed Apr 2020 #3
I don't think so, at least not in the DPRK jmowreader Apr 2020 #10
for a patriot on the inside giving him a case of covid would be good strategy certainot Apr 2020 #15
Sucks to be the surgery team in charge of saving his evil ass. BlueStater Apr 2020 #4
Or they'll do some sort of Breakfast at Bernie's thing The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #16
I remember when he disappeared in 2014 LeftInTX Apr 2020 #5
Hunh...if you'd asked me, when this picture was taken, which one of these fat fucks would... LudwigPastorius Apr 2020 #8
Hey that's insulting to fat fucks to compare them to these two 47of74 Apr 2020 #12
Here ya go: Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 #20
Not surprisingly, the article states no more info is available Kitchari Apr 2020 #6
So, are we looking at a 10-year-old head of state if Kim dies? LudwigPastorius Apr 2020 #7
There is no official line of succession. uppityperson Apr 2020 #9
Great. LudwigPastorius Apr 2020 #13
I thought it would be his sister, Kim Yo Jong n/t OhioChick Apr 2020 #35
It could only be Ri Sol-ju bigworld Apr 2020 #17
I'm not sure that would fly. LudwigPastorius Apr 2020 #26
I believe the army would take that opportunity to end the Kim dynasty jmowreader Apr 2020 #18
A dicey proposition... LudwigPastorius Apr 2020 #25
Kim's son is 10 years old jmowreader Apr 2020 #36
Executed with an antiaircraft gun.... reminds me of a scene in "The Magic Christian." 3Hotdogs Apr 2020 #29
Generalissimo Francisco Franco has been hospitalized and is very ill htuttle Apr 2020 #11
I'm jealous texasfiddler Apr 2020 #14
Does this mean that Trump will no longer be able to get on his knees... Sloumeau Apr 2020 #19
Thoughts and prayers... meow2u3 Apr 2020 #21
+1,000 n/t MarcA Apr 2020 #23
Despot Dictators are not immune to illness and disease MarcA Apr 2020 #22
THANK YOU! elleng Apr 2020 #37
"surgery" jayfish Apr 2020 #24
Hate to be anybody in that surgery... pbmus Apr 2020 #27
Explains his highly unusual absence from recent celebrations of father & grandfather days ago. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #28
Maybe he got overly excited after trumps latest love letter & suffered a heart attack. nt yaesu Apr 2020 #30
Saturday Trump boasted HE got 'a nice note' from the North Korean guy! Judi Lynn Apr 2020 #31
So, we're supposed to believe the word of a fanatical, murderous personality cult of a regime... LudwigPastorius Apr 2020 #32
noise CloudWatcher Apr 2020 #41
Part of his godlike image is that he never has to take a shit Warpy Apr 2020 #33
Well I don't have anything nice to say so...NT. EllieBC Apr 2020 #34
If he did have open heart surgery, you are in intensive care after the surgery MiniMe Apr 2020 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Apr 2020 #39
skeptical... CloudWatcher Apr 2020 #40
Will MF45 fly to his bedside? sinkingfeeling Apr 2020 #42
He could send Dennis Rodman as ambassador. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #43
I'm dubious, given N. Korea's florid press reporting. Paladin Apr 2020 #44

Traildogbob

(8,714 posts)
2. Fact......
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 09:57 PM
Apr 2020

Everything trump touches, dies. He never ever said he loved his own kids, but openly expressed he and Kim’s love affair. Good luck Melanoma, guessing he has touched you. Barron should be really safe.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
10. I don't think so, at least not in the DPRK
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:08 PM
Apr 2020

If that's what he had, he would have gone out of the country to get it.

A small passing thought occurs: North Korea claims it has no coronavirus in its country. Is it possible that KJU actually has COVID-19, and they're calling it "surgery" as a cover story?

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
4. Sucks to be the surgery team in charge of saving his evil ass.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 09:59 PM
Apr 2020

I know he’ll just be replaced with another despicable lump of human garbage and things won’t improve for the citizens of NK, but I’ll still take pleasure in this vile waste of skin eating it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,673 posts)
16. Or they'll do some sort of Breakfast at Bernie's thing
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:14 PM
Apr 2020

and prop up his corpse whenever there's a big public event, for as long as they can get away with it.

LudwigPastorius

(9,136 posts)
8. Hunh...if you'd asked me, when this picture was taken, which one of these fat fucks would...
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:06 PM
Apr 2020

bite the big one first, I'd have said it's a toss up.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
12. Hey that's insulting to fat fucks to compare them to these two
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:11 PM
Apr 2020

Fat fucks often have at least a few redeeming qualities, unlike either of these pieces of shit.

Kitchari

(2,166 posts)
6. Not surprisingly, the article states no more info is available
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:05 PM
Apr 2020

Due to the constricts on reporting in North Korea

LudwigPastorius

(9,136 posts)
7. So, are we looking at a 10-year-old head of state if Kim dies?
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:05 PM
Apr 2020

Whatever the actual line of succession is, if he checks into Club Mud, there's going to be a huge power struggle between wannabees.

Governing chaos and nuclear weapons don't go together well.

LudwigPastorius

(9,136 posts)
13. Great.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:11 PM
Apr 2020

Just when you thought 2020 had reached its full potential as a dumpster fire of a year, the possibility of pandemonium in a country with nuclear weapons raises its head.

LudwigPastorius

(9,136 posts)
26. I'm not sure that would fly.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:31 PM
Apr 2020

There's a lot of rhetoric about the equality of the sexes in the DPRK, but few actual female leaders in the party. It's still really a stifling patriarchal society when it comes to those in power.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
18. I believe the army would take that opportunity to end the Kim dynasty
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:16 PM
Apr 2020

KJU had Defense Minister Hyon Yong-chol executed with an antiaircraft gun for falling asleep during one of KJU's speeches. They're probably still pissed about that.

LudwigPastorius

(9,136 posts)
25. A dicey proposition...
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:28 PM
Apr 2020

I'm not sure if the cult of personality that has been built around the ruling family would make such a move wise, or survivable.

They'd be better off installing Kim's son as a puppet.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
36. Kim's son is 10 years old
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 11:28 PM
Apr 2020

As for cults of personality, Mussolini was the beneficiary of a very strong cult of personality. He ended up shot dead and hung by the feet from the canopy of a gas station.

There's also the nonzero chance the Army has already executed KJU and is just using the "surgical complications" thing as a cover story.

3Hotdogs

(12,372 posts)
29. Executed with an antiaircraft gun.... reminds me of a scene in "The Magic Christian."
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 11:01 PM
Apr 2020

Skeet shooting with Ringo Star. Club members yell, "pull." Live birds are released and shot.

Ringo yells pull. An antiaircraft gun has camo removed from it and the bird is decimated.

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
19. Does this mean that Trump will no longer be able to get on his knees...
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:18 PM
Apr 2020

and kiss Kim Jung Un's butt? Oh no, whatever will Trump do?

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
22. Despot Dictators are not immune to illness and disease
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:25 PM
Apr 2020

and their regimes are not immune from collapse.

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
31. Saturday Trump boasted HE got 'a nice note' from the North Korean guy!
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 11:10 PM
Apr 2020

North Korea denies that Kim sent Trump ‘a nice note’
Its foreign ministry referred to the story as “ungrounded.”

By ASSOCIATED PRESS

04/19/2020 12:46 PM EDT

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea on Sunday dismissed as “ungrounded” President Donald Trump’s comment that he recently received “a nice note” from the North’s leader, Kim Jong Un.

Trump said during a press briefing on the coronavirus pandemic Saturday that “I received a nice note from him recently. It was a nice note. I think we’re doing fine.” Trump also defended now-stalled nuclear diplomacy with Kim, saying the U.S. would have been at war with North Korea if he had not been elected.

North Korea’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement that there was no letter addressed to Trump recently by “the supreme leadership,” a reference to Kim.

It said it would examine why the U.S. leadership released “the ungrounded story” to the media.

More:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/19/north-korea-denies-kim-trump-nice-note-194952

LudwigPastorius

(9,136 posts)
32. So, we're supposed to believe the word of a fanatical, murderous personality cult of a regime...
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 11:15 PM
Apr 2020

that has propped up an incompetent megalomaniac who threatens world peace and brings nothing but death and misery to his people?

Not me. I believe the North Koreans.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
33. Part of his godlike image is that he never has to take a shit
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 11:15 PM
Apr 2020

so there's that possibility, also.

Alas, it was only cardiovascular. Of course, that covers one hell of a lot of territory and he's awfully young for it, only 37. I wonder if his doctors will have the guts to tell him the party's over.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
38. If he did have open heart surgery, you are in intensive care after the surgery
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 11:43 PM
Apr 2020

I know nothing about this reporting, just thought I'd put in what is normal after open heart surgery. I was intensive care for almost a week after a quadruple bypass, and I have no memory of most of that time.

Response to ansible (Original post)

CloudWatcher

(1,846 posts)
40. skeptical...
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:15 AM
Apr 2020

Wonder if this surgery even happened or if he's just keeping low due to covid-19? Or maybe he's on a respirator. Who knows.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
43. He could send Dennis Rodman as ambassador.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:10 AM
Apr 2020

Better have Rodman pack a nice black mourning gown, just in case.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
44. I'm dubious, given N. Korea's florid press reporting.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:31 AM
Apr 2020

But if trump ends up losing one of his best buddies, I sure as hell won't shed a tear.

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