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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:32 AM Apr 2020

Georgia, Tennessee and South Carolina Move to Reopen as Hot Spots Emerge

Source: MSN

ATLANTA — Residents of Georgia will be allowed on Friday to return to the gym and get haircuts, pedicures, massages and tattoos. Next Monday, they can dine again in restaurants and go to the movies.

With that announcement, Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia on Monday joined officials in other states who are moving ahead with plans to relax restrictions intended to curb the spread of the coronavirus, despite signs that the outbreak is just beginning to strike some parts of the country.

In Tennessee, Gov. Bill Lee said on Monday that he was not extending his “safer-at-home” order that is set to expire on April 30. According to his office, “the vast majority of businesses in 89 counties” will be allowed to reopen on May 1. Businesses in Ohio are expected to reopen on that date as well. “We’re going to do what we think is right — what I think is right — and that is try to open this economy,” Gov. Mike DeWine of Ohio said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” “but do it very, very carefully so we don’t get a lot of people killed.”

In South Carolina, Gov. Henry McMaster, a Republican, said on Monday that department stores and some other retail businesses that had previously been deemed nonessential would be allowed to reopen on Tuesday, but they must abide by social distancing guidelines. People will also be able to gain access to public beaches on Tuesday.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/georgia-tennessee-and-south-carolina-move-to-reopen-as-hot-spots-emerge/ar-BB12WDUi?li=BBnb7Kz

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Georgia, Tennessee and South Carolina Move to Reopen as Hot Spots Emerge (Original Post) TomCADem Apr 2020 OP
I have family in NC. Will have to find out what they think being surrounded. captain queeg Apr 2020 #1
NC governor(D) is doing a good job in getting compliance with stay-at-home. NCjack Apr 2020 #22
I was just checking the numbers and NC is doing quite well captain queeg Apr 2020 #35
Sorry about that. My wife had surgery in Chapel Hill on Mar 30th and NCjack Apr 2020 #36
Tick Tock Tick Tock Salviati Apr 2020 #2
Georgia had the 7th highest number of new cases among the states yesterday Jarqui Apr 2020 #3
You mean until America figures out Republican politicians are not good for them. cstanleytech Apr 2020 #7
Point well taken :) ... nt Jarqui Apr 2020 #8
...and Fox News. TomCADem Apr 2020 #10
True. nt cstanleytech Apr 2020 #12
Well, you are thinking that Americans will link it to an actual cause and effect. eilen Apr 2020 #13
Georgia's cases still haven't slowed down even though the peak crickets Apr 2020 #27
I live in Ga. and I'm not returning to my normal travels, no matter what the Gov. opens. I'm older napi21 Apr 2020 #4
Stretch Armstrong will be performing the haircuts, Solly Mack Apr 2020 #5
Open businesses but few, if any, insane customers will show up to buy anything. PSPS Apr 2020 #6
If few, to no one, shows up, it will cost them more to open, than to stay closed. not_the_one Apr 2020 #25
The only ones going out will be either BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #9
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #28
I have another issue with this Jarqui Apr 2020 #11
Great point!!! The disconnect between what they say, and what the do, is astounding. not_the_one Apr 2020 #26
Darwin Awards all around. truthisfreedom Apr 2020 #14
Propaganda and political greed have superceded fact based thinking and responsible government. Ford_Prefect Apr 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #16
Dewine: "so we don't get a lot of people killed"? Isn't the goal... George II Apr 2020 #17
Sadly, the people most jeopardized by this are the working poor. Lonestarblue Apr 2020 #18
Sad to say, I'm afraid you're right. *sigh* nt crickets Apr 2020 #29
Unfortunately, many people will assume this means the coast is clear Mr. Ected Apr 2020 #19
Trump is creating maximum chaos for the 2020 election bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #20
My thoughts: bluevoter4life Apr 2020 #21
Get your absentee ballots neohippie Apr 2020 #23
3 places that I won't go anytime soon. lark Apr 2020 #24
GA to open restaurant dining and movie theaters on Monday Baclava Apr 2020 #30
Gov. Lee: We'll open "carefully so we don't get a lot of people killed." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #31
Need to build a wall around those states not Mexico Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #32
OK then... BadGimp Apr 2020 #33
1242 new CV cases and 94 dead in 24 hrs in Georgia.......... Bengus81 Apr 2020 #34

captain queeg

(10,197 posts)
1. I have family in NC. Will have to find out what they think being surrounded.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:38 AM
Apr 2020

Though I suppose NC will follow suit. Actually I have a sister in Tenn but pretty sure they’ll be playing it very safe. Her and her husband are old and compromised but not sure that’ll be enough.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
22. NC governor(D) is doing a good job in getting compliance with stay-at-home.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:00 AM
Apr 2020

If the state had elected a Repug, we would be dying like flies on a frosty morning.

captain queeg

(10,197 posts)
35. I was just checking the numbers and NC is doing quite well
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 08:14 PM
Apr 2020

One of my brothers that lives there has ALS and is already in a ventilator. Pretty sure to die if he catches it. And because he has caregivers coming in he can’t really control things too tightly. I worry he won’t make it thru the year.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
36. Sorry about that. My wife had surgery in Chapel Hill on Mar 30th and
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:40 PM
Apr 2020

stayed in hospital for 2 weeks. Frightening. She has been home with me for 9 days and so far no problems.

I believe that if NC had a Repuke governor, the hospital would have been at capacity with covid-19 patients.

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
3. Georgia had the 7th highest number of new cases among the states yesterday
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:46 AM
Apr 2020

Georgia is 11th in deaths among the states.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Tennessee & South Carolina are in the top of half of the total number of cases and deaths.

The top expert says:
Dr. Fauci Says Reopening Economy Too Quickly Could ‘Backfire’
https://time.com/5824144/fauci-reopening-economy/

Unfortunately, it appears a lot more Americans will have to die before America figures out Trump hasn't been good for them.

eilen

(4,950 posts)
13. Well, you are thinking that Americans will link it to an actual cause and effect.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 05:29 AM
Apr 2020

But they will probably just blame an immigrant. People are stupid and selfish.

crickets

(25,979 posts)
27. Georgia's cases still haven't slowed down even though the peak
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:04 PM
Apr 2020

is supposed to have happened a week ago. Reopening now is just stupid. People are going to die who could have stayed well if they just stayed home. It's surreal how some governors are just going to send people out to die for money and politics.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
4. I live in Ga. and I'm not returning to my normal travels, no matter what the Gov. opens. I'm older
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:48 AM
Apr 2020

so I'm in the vulnerable group and I don't want to risk my health just because the Governor wants to get the local economy going again. I doubt I'm alone with this thought. We have a Pub Governor & I bet DT contacted him and told him to get this economy going so he can win in Nov.

Solly Mack

(90,766 posts)
5. Stretch Armstrong will be performing the haircuts,
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:49 AM
Apr 2020

massages, pedicures and tattoos, so as to keep both patrons and workers safe.

And in other fantastical news - Trump tells the truth. The nation is gobsmacked.

Live the fantasy. Die in reality.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
25. If few, to no one, shows up, it will cost them more to open, than to stay closed.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:04 AM
Apr 2020

But the turd humpers , to MAKE A POINT, will be out in force. Just because, you know, FREEDUMB (and Obama, and Hillary, and emails, and Benghazi) and all...

Except THEY are far fewer than the media would have us believe. (it is all about scripted drama, like Flip or Flop, when Chris and Tarek find they bought a piece a crap house, which happens, like, EVERY show...)

Returning to the way it was, is NEVER going to happen. We are a changed society. Most of us will now always be wary of crowds. If we are in them, it will be reluctant. A true "guilty pleasure". We may be doing it, but we KNOW we shouldn't be. At least not until we at least have a reliable, FOR SURE working vaccine. And that will be years, if ever.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
9. The only ones going out will be either
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:36 AM
Apr 2020

those with a death wish or members of his cult. Anyone with the sense they were born with will stay home. I feel badly for the poor people who have to go back due to their employers. I bet they don't provide decent health insur or provide masks, gloves and goggles and enforce social distancing.

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
11. I have another issue with this
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:46 AM
Apr 2020

Brian Williams talks with a Mayor of/from Miami Dade

?t=1358

The rationale seems to be that it's ok for people to get this virus as long as they don't overwhelm the hospitals because they need to get the economy going.

Right now, the death rate from this virus is very roughly somewhere between 3 and 21%. Given some time, I believe the medical community will find a way to reduce that and the damage done by this virus to survivors.

This decision to press quickly on bypasses some of that and will kill more people as a consequence. At the very least, I think they should be forced to acknowledge that. There does seem to be this thing with Republicans that people dying to sustain a healthy economy are acceptable losses. Beyond the perils of the risk they're taking, this seems so over the top for a party hell bent on saving every aborted fetus as the expense of well being for a lot of mothers.

It's pretty messed up thinking in my opinion where the almighty buck prevails over human life. Maybe those advocating for abortion rights need to make the financial argument with these people to shut them up when they ignore compassionate grounds.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
26. Great point!!! The disconnect between what they say, and what the do, is astounding.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:09 AM
Apr 2020

The almighty $$$ wins out.

Just like Rachel says, ignore what they say, watch what they DO.

The media should be all over this.

And the campaign aids could be right on target.

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
15. Propaganda and political greed have superceded fact based thinking and responsible government.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 06:10 AM
Apr 2020

We now live in a country driven and ruled by a number of religious zealots and greedy oligarchs.

Critical thought is now officially replaced with dogma and magical thinking. Our native true believers have gone full zombie and require that we follow them off the cliff, or jump before they do.

Moscow Mitch and Lord Rupert have much to answer for, including their pet Hypnotoad and his flock of toadies at 1600 and The Capitol Building.

Nuremberg 2021 will have to run at a brisk pace to keep up with the demand since following orders will not be an acceptable plea.

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
18. Sadly, the people most jeopardized by this are the working poor.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 07:36 AM
Apr 2020

And red states have a lot of working poor, including many minorities. They will go back to work because they need to feed their families and pay their rent. The rent is especially important because when a state is no longer on lockdown many landlords will evict as quickly as possible.

Because I think Republicans are evil, I’m thinking this decision is a political calculation only because the economy can withstand a couple more weeks of lockdown. Republicans now know that Covid-19 has a disproportionate death rate among African Americans, most of whom vote for Democrats. In states like Georgia where Kemp won only by cheating, the idea of decimating the African American population must be too “appetizing” in the words of fake Dr. Oz. In Alabama, Doug Jones won with heavy African American turnout.

The virus has become a tool for Republicans, much like as early settlers were evil enough to give smallpox-infected blankets to Native Americans, among other atrocities. Republicans are evil enough to use Covid-19 risks to get rid of a few more of the “wrong” voters.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
19. Unfortunately, many people will assume this means the coast is clear
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 07:38 AM
Apr 2020

And will put themselves and their families in grave danger without knowing it.

Terrible, terrible signal to be sending right now. Where I live, in rural northeast GA, the virus has only recently been propagating. We need at least another couple weeks, probably a month, in order for quarantine to be considered curve-flattening.

People are going to die because of this. People who rely on other people to do their thinking for them...and the people they recklessly infect.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
20. Trump is creating maximum chaos for the 2020 election
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 07:54 AM
Apr 2020

Something's going on that we have to pay attention to.

bluevoter4life

(787 posts)
21. My thoughts:
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 08:10 AM
Apr 2020

tRump knows he is trying to open the country too early. This is exactly what he was counting on: a second outbreak. New stay-at-home orders will be issued, right in time for the election. This is why he is pushing so hard against mail-in voting. He knows that any reasonable, responsible voter will stay home. The only people going to the polls will be his braindead supporters.

lark

(23,099 posts)
24. 3 places that I won't go anytime soon.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:41 AM
Apr 2020

Ga is just 30 miles from us, so my area just got a lot more unsafe due to stupid fucking trumpers killing us for the profits of the oligarchs.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
30. GA to open restaurant dining and movie theaters on Monday
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:09 PM
Apr 2020

That will be the big test, to see who actually uses them

31. Gov. Lee: We'll open "carefully so we don't get a lot of people killed."
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:42 PM
Apr 2020

I'd hate to be one of those people included in "a lot." I guess the other alternatives are, "just a few" and "almost everyone." The "no one" which is achieved by social distancing isn't on his radar. He's a Republican, and dollars trump lives every time.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
34. 1242 new CV cases and 94 dead in 24 hrs in Georgia..........
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 07:28 PM
Apr 2020

Sounds like a real smart move to open er' up.

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