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SouthernCal_Dem

(852 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:31 PM Apr 2020

Study: Elderly Trump voters dying of coronavirus could cost him in November

Source: Politico

An academic journal projects that deaths of 65-and-over Republican voters in several swing states will far exceed those of Democrats.

Mass casualties from the coronavirus could upend the political landscape in battleground states and shift contests away from President Donald Trump, according to a new analysis.

Academic researchers writing in a little-noticed public administration journal -- Administrative Theory & Praxis -- conclude that when considering nothing other than the tens of thousands of deaths projected from the virus, demographic shifts alone could be enough to swing crucial states to Joe Biden in the fall.

"The pandemic is going to take a greater toll on the conservative electorate leading into this election -- and that's simply just a calculation of age," Andrew Johnson, the lead author and a professor of management at Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi, said in an interview. "The virus is killing more older voters, and in many states that's the key to a GOP victory."


Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/23/how-coronavirus-could-upend-2020-battlegrounds-204708

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Study: Elderly Trump voters dying of coronavirus could cost him in November (Original Post) SouthernCal_Dem Apr 2020 OP
Interesting!! donkeypoofed Apr 2020 #1
Even the ones who survive might be scared shitless of this "pandemic hoax", enough to stay home. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #2
Good point. I figured his voters might die or jump ship. They may very well avoid polling places kysrsoze Apr 2020 #4
Hard to tell whether fear or anger might be more motivating. enough Apr 2020 #13
Oh well In_The_Wind Apr 2020 #3
Low turnout from voters staying home is another factor IronLionZion Apr 2020 #5
Too bad Donny -- sucks to be you Blue Owl Apr 2020 #6
"simply just a calculation of age" - and when you factor in stupidity, lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #7
From the start, it looked like a demographic nightmare for Donnie. paleotn Apr 2020 #8
The full paper is open sourced and available on line. NNadir Apr 2020 #9
this has been in the back of my mind since the numbers started climbing yellowdogintexas Apr 2020 #10
Makes the idea of opening up Florida seem counterproductive idziak4ever1234 Apr 2020 #11
The only generation where the majority favor trump is the Silent Generation. LiberalLoner Apr 2020 #12
Agree DownriverDem Apr 2020 #20
How about those who recover? bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #14
Karma beachbumbob Apr 2020 #15
And don't forget those idiots out protesting against stay at home orders kimbutgar Apr 2020 #16
I bet that is why he target blue states fo no help N/T OneCrazyDiamond Apr 2020 #17
Of course! We've been saying this all along on DU FakeNoose Apr 2020 #18
Too bad, so sad. howardmappel Apr 2020 #19
" . . that's simply just a calculation of age" and, I posit, sex Strelnikov_ Apr 2020 #21
Shadenfreude. Nitram Apr 2020 #22
Quite possible. Dial H For Hero Apr 2020 #23

kysrsoze

(6,019 posts)
4. Good point. I figured his voters might die or jump ship. They may very well avoid polling places
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:39 PM
Apr 2020

Their plan to suppress vote by mail might backfire for them.

enough

(13,255 posts)
13. Hard to tell whether fear or anger might be more motivating.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:02 PM
Apr 2020

Elderly people may be extremely pissed about watching friends and acquaintances die while Republicans act as if it’s not that big a deal.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
5. Low turnout from voters staying home is another factor
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:39 PM
Apr 2020

Which may disproportionately impact older voters, but could impact urban and minority voters.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
7. "simply just a calculation of age" - and when you factor in stupidity,
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:50 PM
Apr 2020

the pandemic will claim conservatives disproportionately in every age group.

NNadir

(33,475 posts)
9. The full paper is open sourced and available on line.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:53 PM
Apr 2020
Mass casualty event scenarios and political shifts: 2020 election outcomes and the U.S. COVID-19 pandemic

I keep hearing from my fellow baby boomers - particularly those who like to bash the shit our of young people, a rising great generation - that Trump (and for that matter everything else we screwed royally) isn't our fault, to which I respond, "Bullshit."

From the text:



There are historical examples of global pandemics resulting in mass causalities. The AIDS epidemic (1981-present), Plague of Justinian (Beginning in 541 AD), and the Black Death (1348–1351) serve as examples of epidemics with death tolls well into the millions of individuals (Brainerd & Siegler, 2003). Influenza routinely claims the lives of thousands of people per year with some years being particularly severe (e.g., 1957, 1968, 2009) (Jordan, n.d.). The most serious influenza events have the potential to be classified as a pandemic if certain criteria are met, as outlined by the World Health Organization (WHO) (World Health Organization, 2020). The most recent global influenza pandemic occurred in 1918 with the spread of the H1N1 influenza strain. The pandemic claimed the lives of an estimated 50 million people worldwide and 675,000 people in the United States (Jordan, n.d.). Since this pandemic occurred over a century ago, sound data was not collected as it might be today (Brainerd & Siegler, 2003). However, experts believe that the influenza strain was indiscriminate in that it was often fatal even to those in good health (Crosby, 1989).


Certain demographics have a strong tendency to vote for one of the two major political parties more than others. According to the Pew Research Center, when data from the 2016 U.S. Presidential election was analyzed, the Republican candidate (Donald Trump) had an advantage with voters fifty and older, while the Democratic candidate (Hillary Clinton) had an advantage with voters under 49 years of age (Pew Research Center, 2018). Voting differences based on other demographics such race and gender were also noted. Older Americans tend to vote more than younger ones. A Pew Research Center (2018) poll on the 2016 presidential election found that individuals age 65 or older made up 27% of voters while those aged 18–29 made up 13%. U.S. Census (2019) data indicate that these two groups of Americans are roughly equal in terms of the ADMINISTRATIVE THEORY & PRAXIS 5 population yet this difference in voter participation gives older Americans a disproportionately large influence in elections. The loss of a significant number of older individuals could reshape U.S. politics. This could be particularly true in the U.S. presidential election as critical swing states were won by Trump with very narrow margins including Michigan (10,704 votes), Wisconsin (22,748 votes), and Pennsylvania (44,292 votes) (Meko et al., 2016; New York Times, 2017).


I added the bold.

yellowdogintexas

(22,231 posts)
10. this has been in the back of my mind since the numbers started climbing
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:54 PM
Apr 2020

in states he won in 2016. It is going to be a factor

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
12. The only generation where the majority favor trump is the Silent Generation.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:00 PM
Apr 2020

They are the ones most at risk from this virus as they are over 75 now.

kimbutgar

(21,056 posts)
16. And don't forget those idiots out protesting against stay at home orders
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:59 PM
Apr 2020

A lot of them look overweight and not too healthy. A study in France said that obesity is a factor in higher deaths in France.

The unintended consequence of being an idiot who doesn’t believe in science.

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
18. Of course! We've been saying this all along on DU
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:56 PM
Apr 2020

Chumphumpers are not taking precautions, they're mostly older, and they're mostly noncritical thinkers who believe every lie they hear on Faux News. The Chumphumpers are dying off first, and many will be gone by November.

Whoever is left will hopefully be so disgusted that they'll refuse to go to the polls for him.
(We can always hope.)



howardmappel

(80 posts)
19. Too bad, so sad.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 09:38 PM
Apr 2020

That just breaks my heart. And it might have the added effect of driving down Fox/Hannity/Alex Jones/ etc. ratings. A three-fer -- the great orange shitgibbon loses, Fox et al lose, and the population loses a bunch of haters, bigots, racists, misogynists, etc. If you could just throw in some of the RW billionaires, I would consider it good news.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
21. " . . that's simply just a calculation of age" and, I posit, sex
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 09:58 PM
Apr 2020

Killing off men at a 2:1 ratio . . and old white men are the GOP base.
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