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turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:28 PM Apr 2020

FEMA Diverted Masks From Veterans Hospitals, VA Official Says

Source: Talking Points Memo

By Matt Shuham

April 25, 2020 5:00 p.m.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency diverted masks from veterans hospitals and into the government's emergency stockpile, the executive in charge of the Department of Veterans Affairs claimed Saturday.


Health care workers at VA hospitals have for weeks warned of severely inadequate stocks of personal protective equipment. And in an interview with The Washington Post, the VA's Executive in Charge Richard Stone pointed the finger at FEMA.

The agency, Stone told the Post, had directed vendors with VA orders to instead send equipment to FEMA for the federal stockpile of such supplies.

"I had 5 million masks incoming that disappeared," Stone told the Post. Some VA hospitals, Stone acknowledged, are now on "austerity levels."

This post has been updated.

Correction: This post erroneously referred to Dr. Richard Stone as the executive in charge of FEMA. He is the executive in charge of the VA.


Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fema-diverted-masks-from-veterans-hospitals-va-official-says



Some one should be charged for willful negligence and reckless endangerment........and just add pre-mediated murder.....at the state level towards these assholes and Kushner and anyone else that is involved, these front line people maybe federal employees but they live in the state(s) that this happening in............... this is just fucking outrageous and there are statutes, that protect these human beings..........I want to know which state attorney general is going to be the first one to step in on this matter pronto.................
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FEMA Diverted Masks From Veterans Hospitals, VA Official Says (Original Post) turbinetree Apr 2020 OP
Disgusting. Neglient homicide by trumpty dumpty/his admin. nt iluvtennis Apr 2020 #1
BASTARDS! bluestarone Apr 2020 #2
Indeed, they belong in prison! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #3
Trump hates veterans that had the courage to serve when he did not. TeamPooka Apr 2020 #4
Trump pretty much hates everybody and everything. ananda Apr 2020 #5
On social media, pazzyanne Apr 2020 #8
"courage to serve"? keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #13
My ? is where were the original masks and PPE that was stored there to begin w/? SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #6
The trump administration needs inventory to send overseas. pazzyanne Apr 2020 #9
Yes, from what Rachel intimated the last couple of weeks (no one knows for sure) Hestia Apr 2020 #12
The members of the Armed Services Committee Scarsdale Apr 2020 #21
Jesus! Cha Apr 2020 #7
Seriously, those f**kers from any Fed Agency (FEMA, FBI, HHS, whoever) need to be NotHardly Apr 2020 #10
Limiting the doling out of PPEs and ventilators to the blue states with the highest summer_in_TX Apr 2020 #22
not to restate this tiresome point.... dhill926 Apr 2020 #11
Error in fact: James48 Apr 2020 #14
Can these people be sued? Karadeniz Apr 2020 #15
Very upsetting seta1950 Apr 2020 #16
WTF is FEMA doing?! sakabatou Apr 2020 #17
FEMA is doing what trumpie and his minions tell them to do. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #24
A few asses have to be dragged into the hot seat in the House Warpy Apr 2020 #18
Should I even ask why this is not getting more mainstream coverage, and why we do not have any c-rational Apr 2020 #19
I have friends at Bay Pines Va and home in Florida Historic NY Apr 2020 #20
Time for Veterans to turn against him IronLionZion Apr 2020 #23
MANY of us never supported him in the first place. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #25
Let's get some more to join you IronLionZion Apr 2020 #26
According to trump supporters Turbineguy Apr 2020 #27
Isn't that the truth...................Yepper, spot on.................... turbinetree Apr 2020 #28

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
3. Indeed, they belong in prison!
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:32 PM
Apr 2020

I hope this circulates in the military community!

Military folks always seem to confuse repukes love of arms manufacturers with respect and appreciation of the military forces. I hope the majority realizes before Nov this is flawed thinking.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
5. Trump pretty much hates everybody and everything.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:36 PM
Apr 2020

He's such a malignant asshole and abuser.

Anyone who tolerates him has abusee syndrome.

pazzyanne

(6,555 posts)
8. On social media,
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:54 PM
Apr 2020

when I come across trumpers supporting the pos, I recommend that they enroll in a co-dependency workshop. Get a lot of likes and some interesting feedback from the trumpers. LOL

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
6. My ? is where were the original masks and PPE that was stored there to begin w/?
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:38 PM
Apr 2020

Did rump and cronies steal all of it and sell it on the 2nd hand market? There needs to be some serious investigating and if need be, some jail time for those that stole the items for their own personal use. And what right does FEMA have in stealing others' masks? Why don't they buy their f**king own masks?

pazzyanne

(6,555 posts)
9. The trump administration needs inventory to send overseas.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:56 PM
Apr 2020

We have one of the worst and deadliest COVID-19 infestations in the world, and he is sending our stockpile overseas.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
12. Yes, from what Rachel intimated the last couple of weeks (no one knows for sure)
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 07:29 PM
Apr 2020

it seems that as soon IQ45 got the word about the virus, Jared started sending order to FEMA to do an inventory and sell everything to China in January. When China receives the goods, they turn around and resell to US at inflated prices. They owe millions to a Chinese Bank, must be their way of paying the vig.

If 45 can't be arrested, why in the world is Jared and Co not? Is this why 45 doesn't declare a National State of Emergency, due to War Profiteering?

I hope like hell someone is investigating. It is so hard to believe Congress has no power to do anything, so they just throw up their hands and go on media proclamating (I know, not a real word but it's new). This shit is getting old.

I hope everyone remembers this when the pendulum swings back, there is no there to listen to. We get to run free reign and make real laws.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
21. The members of the Armed Services Committee
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 11:52 PM
Apr 2020

should be protecting the VA hospitals, and their supplies. Kushner is not an elected official. Haul his scrawny ass in front of the committee, ask WHERE he is selling these supplies?

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
10. Seriously, those f**kers from any Fed Agency (FEMA, FBI, HHS, whoever) need to be
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 07:07 PM
Apr 2020
arrested, jailed, and tried for homicide... Homicide is the intentional harming of another human being and it seems that when you take materials away from those who need it and deprive them of safety and security of their lives that calls for a trial... and then a nice old fashioned hanging.

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
22. Limiting the doling out of PPEs and ventilators to the blue states with the highest
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 12:45 AM
Apr 2020

need seems to me to be designed to leverage pressure on the governors to not threaten any kind of legal investigation.

Red states may be getting a higher percentage, as several indicators suggest. They have no reason to investigate and pursue criminal charges.

It would not surprise me to find that Trump's demand that they not criticize him is keeping governors from unleashing about that.

Anyone know if the VA Health Systems admin is an appointee? Whichever, glad he is raising the issue.

James48

(4,436 posts)
14. Error in fact:
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:34 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Dr. Richard Stone is NOT the Executive in charge of the VA. That would be VA Secretary Robert Wilkie.

The VA is divided up into three parts.

1. The VA Health Administration. (Does Health Care).

2. The VA Benefits Administration (Does benefits including educational, disability, and home loan assistance, among other benefits)

3. VA Cemetery Administration (All the Federal Veterans Cemeteries across the USA)

Dr. Stone is head of VA Health Administration.

seta1950

(932 posts)
16. Very upsetting
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:14 PM
Apr 2020

What I’d like to know is what are they doing with the supplies they’re stealing?
I bet they’re selling it

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
24. FEMA is doing what trumpie and his minions tell them to do.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 08:10 PM
Apr 2020

They are just like any other federal agency. They take their orders from the president.

A reporter should ask him why he ordered this. If he says he didn't, then they should tell him apparently that he;s not in charge anymore, and then ask "Who is ?"

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
18. A few asses have to be dragged into the hot seat in the House
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:26 PM
Apr 2020

This has nothing to do with national security. This is outright theft and public endangerment.

That little prick Jared especially needs to answer a lot of questions. Hard ones. Nowhere to hide.

c-rational

(2,593 posts)
19. Should I even ask why this is not getting more mainstream coverage, and why we do not have any
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:28 PM
Apr 2020

explanations. Is it fear of the Dumpster's administration or cowardice of the media.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
20. I have friends at Bay Pines Va and home in Florida
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:31 PM
Apr 2020

Bay Pine Veterans Hospital, Maderia Beach Florida the have to use the same stuff for over a week, then they try to sanitize them with an in house operation. Some place extra gauze pads into the mask. People from up here send them PPE . Its a large facility.


[link:https://www.baypines.va.gov/|]

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