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turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 01:29 PM Apr 2020

DOJ: Congress Can't Sue If Prez Orders Treasury To Pay For Everyone's Health Care

Source: Talking Points Memo

By Tierney Sneed
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April 28, 2020 10:52 a.m.

U.S. appellate judge Merrick Garland pushed the Justice Department to the logical extremes of its defense of President Trump by getting a DOJ lawyer to say that Congress couldn’t sue if an administration on its own decided to pay for uninsured people’s health care.

The hypothetical came up in the oral arguments for two blockbuster cases in the ongoing war between Trump and the Democratic House. The cases were argued together Tuesday before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.

Garland’s questions appeared particularly geared to the House’s lawsuit seeking to block the administration from using national emergency powers to pay for the border wall Congress refused to fund.

The Justice Department is arguing that Congress cannot use lawsuits to resolve spending disputes it has with the executive branch, an argument that a Trump-appointed district court judge previously backed.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/doj-congress-cant-sue-if-prez-orders-treasury-to-pays-for-everyones-health-care



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For more than a year, the House Judiciary Committee has been seeking the testimony of the former White House Counsel, who featured prominently in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report. The committee filed a lawsuit in July seeking a court order enforcing the April 2019 subpoena. A federal judge backed the House last fall, but her decision was reversed earlier this year in a 2-1 appeals court decision.

That decision, handed down by two GOP appointees, said that courts did not have the authority to resolve subpoena disputes between the executive and legislative branches, a stunning blow to Congress’ ability to perform government oversight — not just this administration, but administrations in the future.

Democratic-appointees make up a majority of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, and Trump’s two appointees on the powerful court have both recused themselves from Tuesday’s arguments, presumably because of their previous roles in the administration. (Another GOP appointee is sitting for the border wall case only.)

It appears likely that the McGahn case will ultimately be decided by the Supreme Court, which has on its plate this term a House subpoena lawsuit seeking documents from Trump’s financial firms.
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RussBLib

(9,005 posts)
8. If Dems sweep the WH and the Senate
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:40 PM
Apr 2020

and keep the House, you will see an instant about-face on the part of Republicans. They will suddenly find their antipathy towards deficits and insist on investigating everything. And it makes me sick.

apnu

(8,749 posts)
4. So the DOJ is saying Congress does not control the nation's purse?
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 02:41 PM
Apr 2020

Someone should tell the Founding Fathers and the conservative SCOTUS judges this.

MNdemJedi

(4 posts)
5. DOJ is saying President Biden can make single payer work the day he takes office :)
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 02:56 PM
Apr 2020

I think the DOJ is saying that once President Biden takes office, he can implement single payer healthcare by ordering the treasury to pay everyone's hospital bills. Thanks DOJ!

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
7. I don't think so....
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 08:34 PM
Apr 2020

IIRC this is not a constitutional issue. It is an action dump45 took under the emergency powers act. The act does not actually define what an emergency is. But it could be amended to do so.

That being the case (if it is) I'm not sure how this line of questioning came up.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
6. I suppose it will fun listening to congressional republicans scream how illegal it is,
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:49 PM
Apr 2020

When some democratic president just decides to do exactly what they're arguing...

riversedge

(70,174 posts)
9. Front web page for this article: Merrick Garland Successfully Trolls DOJ On Presidential Powers
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:42 PM
Apr 2020

gawd--I read the article but had trouble keeping tract of all the hypotheticals.


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