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riversedge

(70,093 posts)
Thu May 7, 2020, 10:28 PM May 2020

Here are the CDC guidelines the White House doesn't want you to see

Source: Business Insider




Rhea Mahbubani 11 hours ago




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In the document, the US's top disease experts provided detailed recommendations on reopening schools, restaurants, mass transit systems, churches, and more.
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The White House buried a comprehensive report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention advising state and local officials on how to safely reopen public spaces while the United States remains in the clutches of the coronavirus pandemic.

The Associated Press reported on Thursday that the 17-page document contained advice from the nation's leading disease experts on when and how to reopen schools and day camps, workplaces, restaurants and bars, mass transit systems, religious facilities, and childcare centers.

Titled "Guidance for Implementing the Opening Up America Again Framework," the report, which includes suggestions for religious leaders, business owners, and academic professionals, was due to be published last Friday. The AP published that report and another CDC document with flowcharts for each sector to follow.

But an unnamed CDC official told the AP reporters Jason Dearen and Mike Stobbe that scientists were told it "would never see the light of day."

The news service said it got a copy of the report from another federal official who wasn't permitted to release it. The AP also published a story on April 28 describing the guidelines before the Trump administration chose to put the document aside.


What the CDC guidelines said............

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Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-administration-shelves-cdc-report-safely-reopening-country-2020-5





People eating lunch on Wednesday in a noodle restaurant in Bangkok that reopened after the easing of coronavirus restrictions. Athit Perawongmetha/Reuters

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Here are the CDC guidelines the White House doesn't want you to see (Original Post) riversedge May 2020 OP
Very little of that is workable Warpy May 2020 #1
this should be a huge issue and on the news 24/7 Locrian May 2020 #2
Individual suppliers have been keeping crews at work 24 hours a day Warpy May 2020 #4
exactly right Locrian May 2020 #5
KNR niyad May 2020 #3
Thanks for posting. Here are links to the forbidden(!) doc and the decision tree flowcharts klook May 2020 #6

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
1. Very little of that is workable
Fri May 8, 2020, 02:03 AM
May 2020

and some of it, like the day care rules and mass transit rules, is laughable.

For instance, have you ever tried to wrangle toddlers and preschoolers? You might get away with this with school age children, but it would be a constant battle.

Best thing for mass transit is to require masks, N-95 preferable (if we can pry them loose from TSA and DHS). The operative word in mass transit is "mass," meaning it has to move a lot of people quickly. Bosses are not going to respond well to employees who come in an hour and a half late, waiting for a subway train with a taped spot available, it's just not going to happen.

In addition, preachers want the butts in the pews so they can pass the plate. School restrictions look aimed more at destroying social interaction than keeping kids safer. We can't pack them into hazmat suits and 6 feet of distance in a closed classroom won't do squat. I speak as someone who went through school epidemics when half the kids were out and the rest of us were sitting far apart and kids and teachers both got sick until they closed the schools for a week or two.

What we should have done in the past 2 months is gear up production of PPE (instead of hijacking delivery trucks so Jared could micromanage distribution), opening field hospitals and quarantine facilities, and pushing out testing, testing, testing--both diagnostic and antibody. House arrest and social distancing were stopgap measures to buy time to do this. It was wasted time and now we're all going to pay for it.

And the CDC is dreaming. The best they can do is keep theaters, sports arenas, and other venues that draw crowds closed. Other than that, we are on our own.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
2. this should be a huge issue and on the news 24/7
Fri May 8, 2020, 09:32 AM
May 2020

>>What we should have done in the past 2 months is gear up production of PPE

WTF? We can't gear up production in two months? This amazes me - we should be flooding everyone with free N95 masks.
I think if they could have geared up faster - a lot of this idiocy on not wearing them would have been avoided.

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
4. Individual suppliers have been keeping crews at work 24 hours a day
Fri May 8, 2020, 12:04 PM
May 2020

but they need the kind of organized help only a government can provide. It certainly doesn't help when their shipments are being confiscated by the DHS.

It's become abundantly clear we don't have a government. We have a self involved parasitic organization obsessed with its own survival and unconcerned with ours, largely owned and operated by billionaires.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
5. exactly right
Fri May 8, 2020, 03:35 PM
May 2020

There's no leadership to organize, coordinate, and multiply the effect of the individual effort - break down barriers etc.

This is the exact opposite - barriers, misdirection, profiteering, racketeering, incompetence, etc by the administration.
Stunning really.

klook

(12,152 posts)
6. Thanks for posting. Here are links to the forbidden(!) doc and the decision tree flowcharts
Fri May 8, 2020, 04:53 PM
May 2020

as given in the BI article.

Everyone should review these guidelines, which are thorough, well-thought-out, and quite reasonable. Obviously different communities will have differing abilities to implement them in toto. As the CDC states on its website:

When selecting mitigation strategies, states and communities should be guided by the local characteristics of disease transmission, demographics, and public health and healthcare system capacity. Mitigation strategies should be able to be scaled up or down depending on the evolving local situation.

The full 17-page document:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6883734-CDC-Business-Plans.html

Seven pages of flowcharts showing decision trees for reopening youth programs & camps, childcare programs, faith communities, mass transit, restaurants & bars, schools, and workplaces:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6883736-CDC-documents.html#document/p1

Additional information pages linked from within the Forbidden Documents:

Within the documents there are hyperlinks to additional information. Note: The lower-level links within the 17-page file and the flowchart document are not functional -- those files are just images of the pages in the CDC publications. The bulleted list above links to those supplemental pages.

There's a lot more useful information on the CDC website under Communities, Schools, Workplaces, and Events: Guidance for Where You Live, Work, Learn, Pray, and Play -- at least until the gremlins force it to be scrubbed.
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