Additional video footage surfaces in Ahmaud Arbery shooting

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Source: New York Daily News

Investigators are using additional video footage to reconstruct the February afternoon that Ahmaud Arbery was fatally shot in a quiet southern Georgia neighborhood.

A video taped near the shooting shows a man, apparently Arbery, briefly entering the garage of a home under construction, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, which published the clip.

Lawyers for Arbery’s family said in a statement that the video “is consistent with the evidence already known to us.”

The statement from attorneys S. Lee Merritt, Ben Crump and L. Chris Stewart said, in part, “Ahmaud Arbery was out for a jog. He stopped by a property under construction where he engaged in no illegal activity and remained for only a brief period. Ahmaud did not take anything from the construction site. He did not cause any damage to the property.”



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[ornotna]

1. Typical residential construction site

People check them out. Happens all the time. Nothing to get run down and murdered over.

[iluvtennis]

5. + agree. nt

[RussBLib]

43. I mean, who hasn't gotten a BJ in a house under construction?

Except for women, of course.

Not so easy to get away with murder these days.

[econ 101]

47. I work in construction. Know who checks out building sites?

EVERYONE!

[Demonaut]

2. I'm curious about a house under construction, been in many to see the progress

I knew it was trespassing, felt like a thief but it is interesting

[MASW]

3. I've done this several times

I am an avid runner and walker, and have checked out houses under construction several times. It's interesting to see how things are coming along. I've also scoped out vacant houses that are for sale--peeked in the window, gone around the back...I never considered it remotely criminal. The fact is, this handsome young black man was hunted down and killed in cold blood. It is heartbreaking in so many ways.

[iluvtennis]

6. + agree. Welcome to DU MASW.

[Skittles]

9. me too!

when they built a housing development across the street I kept ducking over there when the workers were gone, to see how the construction was going, wandered in the houses to check out the layout......not unusual behavior.......stalking and killing someone like Zimmerman and these two yahoos, that is just wrong

[npk]

15. As a person who works in construction

people really should not wander onto a construction site. For starters it can dangerous to do so, and people can get hurt from exposed building materials or something falling onto them. Also technically it is trespassing. I have had tens of thousands of dollars worth of tools and other building supplies stolen and it can be extremely costly to hire security to watch a home. Also it is not always practical to stow and secure all your materials when you are away from the site. Having said all of that, these two men had no right to chase down and confront this man with armed weapons. If they did suspect him of theft they should have called the police and let them handle it. Taking the law into your own hands is never the right thing to do.

I just cannot believe you would draw a gun on anyone even if you did suspect them of theft. This is a prime example of Southern Justice. A former white cop, who still thinks he has the right to brandish his firearm and detain citizens without any real authority to do so.

[Politicub]

21. Of course they should not, but people do. I have in the past when a new home is being

built along the path where I walk.

But it should not be a death sentence to check out new construction and what it looks like. That's absurd.

[npk]

22. To me this is George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin all over again

except this time we have it on tape. Zimmerman was a wannabe cop and this McDaniels was a retired cop. Two racists who take offense to seeing a black man walking/jogging through their neighborhood and use the excuse of recent breakins as an justification to hunt down an innocent person and shoot them. I hope this case doesn't end the same way at the Trayvon Martin case did.

[Warpy]

4. I think most of us have done this a time or two

I know I have, just checking out what's going on. Even if he'd run back out with a table saw on his back, it was not. their. job. to detain him, let alone be judge, jury and executioners.

I think a couple of Klanners might actually get convicted in GA for this one.

[rainin]

7. I've done it many times

[pnwmom]

14. When my childhood house was being built we were living in a rental,

and neighbors frequently stopped by our under-construction house to see how it was progressing. It's an interesting process. The only thing my dad worried about was a particular child who was climbing around and could have hurt herself -- so he asked her parents not to let her go there without them.

[LizBeth]

8. Regardless, there can be many reasons and we have no idea why.

He took nothing. He caused no damage.

[Skittles]

10. curiousity seems like the likely motive

lots of us have done this

[LizBeth]

12. Could be. We do not know. What matters is, he took nothing. He damaged nothing.

[LizBeth]

23. THEY hunted. They murdered. And then a whole lot of people said ok. Thumb up.

Lets move on with life.

[LizBeth]

28. A whole lot more certainly said, not ok, for sure. A handful of people though is a whole lot to me

in this situation.

[spike jones]

11. this is why fences around large construction sites have viewing holes. n/t

[doc03]

13. Maybe he took a leak nt

[Bayard]

38. That's what I'm thinking

Runners are always looking for a building or bush to duck behind, if they're well-hydrated.

[BigmanPigman]

16. People of all ages always have gone and done this out of curiosity.

My little girl friends and I would go to sites in the middle of the woods when new homes were being built near ours and we were under 10 years old. Why do the construction sites in cities have square holes cut at adult eye level in the boards put up around construction sites in major cities? Do we all deserve to get shot for peering into these holes? Nope, didn't think so.

[niyad]

17. Because I am by nature curious, I have gone through new construction, remodels, etc.

Even, on occasion, had workers offer to show me around. But then, I am old, female, and white, so I guess I seem harmless.

These racist bastards make me sick.

Maybe their punishment should be a canned hunt.

[LudwigPastorius]

18. He's guilty of being Curious While Black.

Next thing you know he might've actually waved "Hi" to someone as he was jogging, or've spoken to someone in the neighborhood.

C

[Lithos]

19. No, he is guilty of a LWB in the First Class

Living While Black.

He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and lynched by men looking for a black man to kill to justify their insecurities.

[olddad65]

27. And fleeing the scene of crime.

[stopdiggin]

29. I think you knew you were going to get this question

but please go ahead and tell us what "crime" was being fled.
(and please remember .. you brought this on your own head!)
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[wnylib]

34. Was he maybe referring to the murderers fleeing?

[stopdiggin]

40. perhaps

but, in fact .. they didn't .. stayed at the scene, right?

[wnylib]

44. Not sure.

[moriah]

48. His "crime", if any, per the video footage, would have been "criminal trespass".

Which in Georgia is only a misdemeanor.

Meaning no authority under the citizen's arrest statute to pursue a "fleeing" suspect, even if he *was* breaking the law in some fashion.

Not every "crime" mandates the fucking death penalty, and if the Georgia legislature doesn't at least change its citizen arrest code to say pursuit is allowed after not just any felony, but a "violent felony".... well, hopefully the law and courts and juries will do the right thing here.

Of course, they've had months to do so and it took a video that was traumatizing to some viewers to get them to do anything at all, so it's a slim hope.

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(I know I'm not the person you're asking, but I'd researched this when I was looking at the case and GA's code. I could see a state allowing citizen pursuit of a fleeing murderer, but was pretty damn sure that trespassing into an "empty house", as original reports suggested as a possibility, was not the same. Seeing the inside of the structure makes it clear that no human could use it for habitation at this moment, and the video doesn't show him attempting any crime while inside. Misdemeanor criminal trespass at the MOST.)

[stopdiggin]

49. yes. that's exactly what I was getting at

with my comment/post. A misdemeanor. And it would be up to the property owner and designated authority whether he would be charged with that! (hint: doubtful. for this very minor and commonplace transgression.)

[oldsoftie]

31. He was in his own neighborhood according to what i've read.

[Lithos]

46. By wrong place

I meant being unlucky to be seen by these KKK turd blossoms

[TheFourthMind]

24. I'm going to guess he was taking a piss. Been there, done that. Didn't get killed for it.

But I'm white so I get to go wherever I want, no questions asked.

[padah513]

30. That was my first thought as well

[roamer65]

25. They are trying to smear Ahmaud.

Nothing will substantiate murdering him...NOTHING.

The juries had better convict these 2 deplorables of murder. The video shows they did it.

[oldsoftie]

32. Most of my FB friends are fine with a crook getting shot. 95% of them call this murder.

And some of them even participated in the 2:23 run the other day.
That tells me that these 2 guys are gonna have a HARD time squirming out of this one.

The other 5% excuse just about anything.

[wnylib]

33. What really bothers me about this,

besides the racist murder of a harmless, unarmed man, is the search for material to sully him with, as if any human imperfections would prove that he "deserved it."

[Cosmocat]

36. This is the same song and dance we see everytime this $hit happens

nm

[wnylib]

37. And it's always so transparent.

Direct attention away from the crime of murder and discredit the victim.

I'm betting that this father-son fake vigilante team were not in the least concerned about crime in the neighborhood. They were concerned about a black man living in the area and decided to take him out. Vigilantism was the excuse given after the fact, but planned in advance.

First degree, pre-meditated murder. Add hate crime to that.

[Bengus81]

35. I thought his mom or sister said he wanted to be an electrician....

Maybe he was just asking about a job or who to ask for a job. I worked in new construction for 46 years in floor covering,there were always people stopping by asking if they could look for a few minutes. They were in the home a hell of a lot longer than this guy was and didn't get ambushed just down the street.

[Sapient Donkey]

39. He didn't do anything illegal, and even if he had done something it wouldn't matter

Nothing he could have done there would justify being chased down and shot.

[Jake Stern]

41. If checking out construction sites is something to get shot over

I'd have been perforated by now. However the worst that's happened to me is I stepped on a nail.

I still check out houses under construction, strangely enough because I am looking for ideas when it comes time to build my own house.

[IronLionZion]

42. Looking at construction sites is not a crime

There are tons of them here in DC. I look from the outside but would never go in.

Being black doesn't make someone a burglar.

[EleanorR]

45. Why is the victim on trial?

Murder is illegal. They murdered him. The end.

[JI7]

50. Many people check out construction sites who are into that sort of thing .

again, they are making what would be typical and normal for white people into something suspicous and criminal if a minority does it.

[melm00se]

51. One question

and not related to the guilt or innocence of the accused:

So far, no fewer than 2 videos have emerged. Who recorded them?

[Sapient Donkey]

52. The video this article is talking about is a security camera video from a house on the same street

as the one under construction. I am not 100% clear on who filmed the video from the car, though. I got the impression he was also involved in the chase based on the fact he was driving on the wrong side of the road and was directly behind him. Also, I believe the lawyers/family of the victim demanded he person who filmed it also be charged. Maybe some new information on that has came out since I read that, though. It's mostly speculation on my part.

[Ms. Toad]

53. According to the police report,

The video from the car was taken by someone who tried to cut his path of off -so yes, by someone involved, at least to some extent.

[Sapient Donkey]

54. Oh did it say that? I didn't see that part. That seems about right based on the video.

[Ms. Toad]

55. Let me see if I can find it . . .

[link:https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6883377-Ahmaud-Arbery-Police-Report.html|Here you go
]

3rd paragraph of the narrative, near the bottom of the paragraph.