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Tue May 12, 2020, 08:06 AM

Gunmen storm Kabul maternity ward, killing 13, including 2 newborns

Source: Washington Post

Gunmen set off an explosion Tuesday at the entrance of one of Kabul's busiest hospitals before storming the building, which includes a maternity ward, killing 13, including two newborns.

The attackers battled for hours with Afghan security forces. According to the interior minister, the rest of those slain were nurses and mothers. Some 15 others were injured. The hospital is one of the busiest in western Kabul and houses a maternity ward run by Doctors Without Borders.

While no group has claimed responsibility for the assault, it echoes earlier attacks on civilian targets carried out by the extremist Islamic State group. In March, gunmen stormed a Sikh temple, killing 25, and earlier that month shooters killed 32 at an ethnic Hazara and Shiite gathering.

Photos and videos from the scene circulating on social media showed police forces carrying newborns to emergency medical teams nearby. One photo showed a woman lying on her back crumpled up against a hospital room wall, a small baby lying in her arms.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/gunmen-storm-kabul-maternity-ward-killing-13-including-2-newborns/2020/05/12/416a9174-9428-11ea-87a3-22d324235636_story.html



The world has gone mad.

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Zorro May 2020 OP
magicarpet May 2020 #1
dhol82 May 2020 #2
spike jones May 2020 #3
Angrybob2001 May 2020 #4
csziggy May 2020 #5
jmbar2 May 2020 #6
spike jones May 2020 #8
csziggy May 2020 #12
EX500rider May 2020 #23
muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #10
Devil Child May 2020 #7
spike jones May 2020 #11
Devil Child May 2020 #13
spike jones May 2020 #17
LanternWaste May 2020 #15
RussBLib May 2020 #9
abqtommy May 2020 #14
LudwigPastorius May 2020 #16
greenjar_01 May 2020 #18
mainer May 2020 #19
Stuart G May 2020 #20
Haggis for Breakfast May 2020 #21
jeffreyi May 2020 #22

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 08:17 AM

1. Religious Extremists gone,...

* Frantic,
* Fanatical,
AND,
* Fascist

Think Falwell, Liberty University, Graham, Pat Robertson, and Jim Baker, for the American version of this Fascist Religious crap.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 08:24 AM

2. Appalling!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 08:28 AM

3. religion poisons everything. n/t

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Response to spike jones (Reply #3)

Tue May 12, 2020, 08:46 AM

4. Truth

It does but if it wasn't religion it would be some other ideology poisoning them.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 08:46 AM

5. Wasn't there a claim something like this during the Kuwait conflict?

That Iraqi gunmen invaded a maternity ward in Kuwait? I seem to remember that this was later proven to be false. Here:

Nayirah testimony
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيرة الصباح‎ and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign, which was run by the American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1][2]

In her emotional testimony, Nayirah claimed that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die.

Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International, a British NGO, which published several independent reports about the killings[3] and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country. An ABC report found that "patients, including premature babies, did die, when many of Kuwait's nurses and doctors ... fled" but Iraqi troops "almost certainly had not stolen hospital incubators and left hundreds of Kuwaiti babies to die."[4][5] Amnesty International reacted by issuing a correction, with executive director John Healey subsequently accusing the Bush administration of "opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement".[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony


I have no idea if the same is true here, but invading a maternity ward does not make sense for a military tactic. The only really reason for it would be to inflame passions against those who are blamed for it.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #5)

Tue May 12, 2020, 09:00 AM

6. What can possibly motivate such an act?

Incomprehensible. I hope it isn't true.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #6)

Tue May 12, 2020, 10:01 AM

8. Those who can make you believe absurdities; can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #6)

Tue May 12, 2020, 10:24 AM

12. That is what stands out for me - it makes no sense

Unless, as in the Kuwaiti-Iraq conflict claims, it turns out to be a fake news propaganda claim. That was taken as true in 1991 and used to support US and international assistance for Kuwait. Which of course, led to US troops in Saudi Arabia, which led to Bin Laden and Al Qaida going after the US for "defiling their sacred land," acts of terror which led to further conflict and see where we are today!

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Response to csziggy (Reply #12)

Wed May 13, 2020, 03:11 PM

23. Expecting Islamic terrorists to make sense also makes no sense. nt

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Response to csziggy (Reply #5)

Tue May 12, 2020, 10:12 AM

10. Islamic State are not a military in Afghanistan; they are, by anyone's definition, a terror group

and remember they have a history of genocide, against the Yazidis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Yazidis_by_ISIL

They don't need things to make sense from a military perspective, or political, for that matter.

MSF confirm the hospital was attacked, and if you don't trust them, then you certainly wouldn't trust anyone. Including DU.




And if you want a "reason" by Islamic State's logic:

The neighbourhood to which the hospital belongs is mostly home to Hazaras, a minority who are mostly Shia Muslims. They have frequently been targeted by Islamic State, including at civilian sites including a gym and a school.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/12/gunmen-attack-kabul-hospital-used-by-medecins-sans-frontieres

To them, Shia Muslims are heretics, and they often murder them.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 09:08 AM

7. Disgusting

Islamist political terrorism is a curse upon the world.

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Response to spike jones (Reply #11)

Tue May 12, 2020, 10:24 AM

13. Can't have a thread on Islamist terrorist act without someone pointing to christians

No shit Christian death squads are disgusting.

Feel free to click through the past months as much as you can stomach and you can see who perpetrates the vast majority of terrorist acts in the world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_2020

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #13)

Tue May 12, 2020, 12:20 PM

17. Check out the first six hundred years starting 1000 CE.

This is where we are heading in our country. It will be Christian death squads here, not Muslim death squads. IMO

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Response to spike jones (Reply #11)

Tue May 12, 2020, 11:25 AM

15. Is anyone here arguing otherwise?

Or do you simply feel the need to throw in an irrelevant comparison to better satisfy your own visceral agenda?

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 10:11 AM

9. now they are attacking Doctors Without Borders

It's not the world that has gone mad. It's people infected by the toxic ideas of religious leaders. Islam comes to mind.

Boko Haram - Westernization is sacrilege.

Hey, didn't Trumpy declare that all was good now in Afghanistan? Oh, just another lie.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 10:54 AM

14. I saw this early today on The BBC but it's too terrible to read let alone post... there are some

things that are hard for me to do, except cry...

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 11:32 AM

16. "The world has gone mad."


I'm afraid the world has always been mad.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 12:36 PM

18. "There they were in a pile...a pile of little arms..."

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 05:01 PM

19. Misogyny? They attacked a ward exclusively for women

I can't think of any other reason to target this ward.

In fact, it seems misogyny is the motive for so many attacks, by men who can't find love in any normal way.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:29 PM

20. Horrific..Very sad read, warning: in some places humanity has sunk this low..

Unbelievable.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 07:24 PM

21. These men are NOT Muslims.

There is NOTHING in The Koran that justifies this act. NOTHING.

These men are nothing more than garden variety psychopathic sadists.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 08:23 PM

22. It takes real manly men

To kill unarmed women and babies. Good g_d.

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