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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Sun May 17, 2020, 12:53 PM May 2020

Police officer told homeowner he could contact Ahmaud Arbery shooting suspect for help with potentia

Source: CNN

Police officer told homeowner he could contact Ahmaud Arbery shooting suspect for help with potential trespassers, text message shows
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A text message obtained by CNN shows a Glynn County police officer told the owner of a home under construction near the Georgia coast that he could contact Gregory McMichael for help with potential trespassers seen in surveillance video from his property.

Months later, Gregory McMichael, 64, and his son, Travis McMichael, 34, would be arrested for the February 23 fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, who was jogging through the neighborhood and, according to attorneys for Arbery's family, seen in surveillance footage from the property that day.

Elizabeth Graddy, an attorney for the homeowner, Larry English, said the text exchange occurred on December 20, 2019. In it, English sends a video clip from his surveillance camera to the police officer. The officer responded, telling English that one of English's neighbors is Gregory McMichael, a retired police officer and retired investigator in the local district attorney's office.

McMichael "said please call him day or night when you get action on your camera," the officer wrote in his text message to English.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/16/us/ahmaud-arbery-text-message/index.html

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Police officer told homeowner he could contact Ahmaud Arbery shooting suspect for help with potentia (Original Post) Calista241 May 2020 OP
Lawsuit city. roamer65 May 2020 #1
I doubt any such suit against the police or the officer would result in cstanleytech May 2020 #4
It depends on how good the lawyer. roamer65 May 2020 #7
So the cop tells the property owner to contact a private citizen? 3Hotdogs May 2020 #13
not on the basis of this stopdiggin May 2020 #9
Gregory McMichael was itching to kill a black man. dalton99a May 2020 #2
So the police didn't want to do their job? LiberalFighter May 2020 #3
Actually it's more like the police response time can vary based upon a number of factors. cstanleytech May 2020 #6
Which is true... OldBaldy1701E May 2020 #14
To me a neighborhood watch should consist of patrols that make cstanleytech May 2020 #15
Its interesting that there were no 911 calls made when white people were on the property tulipsandroses May 2020 #5
+! n/t CountMyVote4Reality May 2020 #8
it's a shit show down there... RT Atlanta May 2020 #10
This gets worse and worse. The voters in this county need to clean house. yardwork May 2020 #11
Wow. This is looking more and more like how Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin. SunSeeker May 2020 #12

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
4. I doubt any such suit against the police or the officer would result in
Sun May 17, 2020, 01:21 PM
May 2020

a finding against them simply based on that brief portion of a text message and if it did it would probably be thrown out on appeal.
Now if the officer had gone on to say it would be dealt with via violence by them upon someone then yes the officer and the department would be in deep shit but as it stands currently based solely on that tiny bit of text message it simply whiffs of shit rather than reeks.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
13. So the cop tells the property owner to contact a private citizen?
Sun May 17, 2020, 03:30 PM
May 2020

I'd vote for a couple'a hundred K to the survivors.

stopdiggin

(11,298 posts)
9. not on the basis of this
Sun May 17, 2020, 02:24 PM
May 2020

I don't live in this jurisdiction .. but I think virtually any court in the country is going to view this text message as entirely innocuous.
(and unfortunately .. it might well serve to bolster the McMichaels defense)

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
6. Actually it's more like the police response time can vary based upon a number of factors.
Sun May 17, 2020, 01:28 PM
May 2020

That's why there are things like neighborhood watches and other things to try and help out as much as possible.

Mind you I'm not saying the assholes who murdered this kid "and yes it was premeditated murder plain and simply in my opinion" were part of such a neighborhood watch program but rather I am simply pointing out the fact that the police cannot respond to every call in a timely manner.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,126 posts)
14. Which is true...
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:32 AM
May 2020

except that the cops want us to call them for every little thing. If their response time is variable, then what are we supposed to do? You mention 'neighborhood watch'... you mean like the one that created Zimmerman? I have been told over and over that I am not supposed to do anything but run and hide while calling the police. Like that is going to stop anyone from hurting or killing anyone. For those out in rural areas, this is even more of a complete fabrication, as the cops cannot help them while whatever danger is going on. I am all for the police, but this idea that the only option is injury or death because I am not supposed to do anything but call them is ludicrous. And, considering how this and many other stories keep popping up tells me that the police may not be the best group to call in certain situations. How we got here is a story for another time, but I will not be blind to the fact that in reality there can be just as much danger from the 'help' as there is from the 'criminal'. (So far, my experience is that the police are overwhelmingly Rethug... so their constant babbling about 'the rule of law' is very funny... and scary as hell...)

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
15. To me a neighborhood watch should consist of patrols that make
Mon May 18, 2020, 12:17 PM
May 2020

themselves seen so as to discourage people from trying to commit a crime.
However they should try not to intervene if they see someone breaking into a home nor should they approach someone rather they should call it into the police.

tulipsandroses

(5,123 posts)
5. Its interesting that there were no 911 calls made when white people were on the property
Sun May 17, 2020, 01:23 PM
May 2020

There was a previous 911 call about a black man. I would not doubt that this was pre-meditated murder. As Cuomo said a few nights ago, it sounds like there were other people in the neighborhood talking about this black guy in their neighborhood. Telling stories about a rash of burglaries which is a complete lie. They were going to fix this black guy. The attorney for one of the McMichaels said there was more than one video of the shooting? Why? Why were people out there recording? Then you have this text message about calling McMichaels. There is a lot more that needs to be told here. A lot more.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
10. it's a shit show down there...
Sun May 17, 2020, 02:25 PM
May 2020

and it will only get worse (understanding level of corruption/racism and on down the line) as more intrepid reporters research what's going on over there.

Sunshine will be a good disinfectant!



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