So far, no spike in coronavirus in places reopening, U.S. health secretary says
Source: Reuters
U.S. authorities are not yet seeing spikes in coronavirus cases in places that are reopening but it was still too early to determine such trends, health secretary Alex Azar said on Sunday.
We are seeing that in places that are opening, were not seeing this spike in cases, Azar said on CNNs State of the Union program. We still see spikes in some areas that are, in fact, closed.
However, Azar said identifying and reporting new cases takes time. A critical part of reopening will be surveillance of flu-like symptoms in the population and other hospital admissions data, as well as testing of asymptomatic individuals, he said.
Its still early days, Azar cautioned in an interview with CBS Face the Nation. He said data will take some time to come in from states that reopened early such as Georgia and Florida.
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-idUSKBN22T0HN
leftieNanner
(15,080 posts)Or maybe they don't count those.
Sheesh.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)"Texas has seen a steady rise in novel coronavirus cases and fatalities since reopening just over two weeks ago."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-cases-covid-19-increasing-thousands-reopening/story?id=70720497
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)Something about the reporting results in an ebb and flow so you need a couple of weeks data to see anything. In Georgia, for instance, the last bottom was higher than the previous bottom. The next bottom should be 4-5 days away. You can't tell anything from a single data point and the increase was less that what you would term a "spike" anyway. Plus, it takes about a month for an actual spike to take place. But spikes aren't statewide events anyway. Take Texas. What you want to look at is a place like Galveston and South Padre, where the popular beaches are. What we are seeing today is from around Amarillo and that is meatpacking related. Just premature to measure spikes.
And speaking of both meatpacking and nursing homes, why are they just now getting regulations out. Those were known problem areas and waiting for them to explode and then addressing the issue never made any sense. That was a colossal failure of leadership at the federal level in not getting those regulations out so the disruptions could have been at least lessened.
catrose
(5,065 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)Is it because there are more sick people showing up or because there is more testing? I have also heard that Texas have ramped up testing.
The state, one of the first to start reopening, reported an increase of 1,801 positive coronavirus cases on Saturday.
But it's not clear whether the surge is simply due to more testing, or if the virus is spreading more rampantly.
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/05/17/report-texas-sees-highest-single-day-increase-in-covid-19-cases-on-saturday/
LisaL
(44,973 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)I was unable to find the exact numbers per day of deaths. Although I did see after you said something that 58 people in Texas had died on Thursday and that was the highest number since the pandemic started. I hadn't been watching closely the last few weeks. Just staying home as much as possible to not be one of them. Being here in what may become the epicenter now that we have reopened, I've sort of stopped watching the news as much because it's so depressing..
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/texas-reports-record-coronavirus-deaths-cases-day-15270877.php
ProfessorGAC
(64,989 posts)Cases are going up fast. But, testing has gone from 2k, 4k, 8k, then 12 then 24k.
So in about 6 weeks, testing per day has quadrupled.
But, the deaths per 14 day rolling average is flat and positivity rate is falling. (Amazing what isolation, distancing, & masks will do, hub?)
If you were to just look at cases, you'd think it's worse than ever. But, officials here have done a good job avoiding disaster.
Igel
(35,296 posts)Takes a while for the infections to show symptoms, become hospitalized, and then result in death.
It's like the report after a Detroit protest on Wednesday. On Saturday the cases spiked. Except that it wouldn't have been until Saturday that there was any chance of a test coming back positive, it took 24-48 hours for the tests to run, and there'd be no reason to get tested because the average time to first symptoms is 5 days. Get infected Wednesday, maybe show symptoms Monday, get tested on Tuesday, get test results on Thursday ... Not the previous Saturday.
Most of the uptick are restricted to a few counties, and those are connected to specific events or places.
Hospitalizations should be ticking up by now, though, but I don't know where to get day-by-day hospitalization data by county for Texas.
Increased positive tests (that's what the word "case" means here, not "sick person" lag the test date by 1-2 days; test dates lag symptom onset by a couple of days; first symptoms lag date of infection by 3-6 days (for the most part--not earlier, sometimes later). Make a graph (which looks like a number line, to be honest) and it's easier.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Even if test lags symptoms, symptoms can still appear and result in hospitalization and then a demise.
LeftInTX
(25,224 posts)They had 600 plus cases yesterday.
However, if you look at the state as a whole, it is different. For instance, where I live the number of daily cases are going down and testing is going up, so I think it is safe to say it is not spiking in Bexar County, with a population of 2.5 million at the moment. I don't know what is going on in other large counties, such as Dallas, Tarrant, Travis though. I know that they are counting cases in a Frio County ICE detention center in the state totals.
There is a federal prison up in Ft. Worth and I don't know how they are counting cases up there..Are they part of the state totals???...Hubby knew a federal inmate who died up in Ft. Worth from CV-19. (Guy was a POS coach who was up there for child porn)
leftieNanner
(15,080 posts)yellowdogintexas
(22,250 posts)Yes those numbers are part of state totals
ashredux
(2,603 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,754 posts)TX, Wi all with lots of new cases
spike jones
(1,678 posts)therefore, fewer tests are needed, resulting in even fewer cases found, so tests are no longer needed, and no more cases found, and then one day, like magic, its gone.
machoneman
(4,006 posts)Phoenix61
(17,000 posts)Thats part of the plan. No testing, no spike.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Phoenix61
(17,000 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)shockey80
(4,379 posts)0rganism
(23,937 posts)spouting dangerous fucking lies, of course
n/t !!!!!!!!!!!!
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Igel
(35,296 posts)Billed a "significant increase."
On Thursday the case count wasn't meaningful. It had sharply increased to 36 on Wednesday and was back to 19 on Thursday. The difference was "significant" when it was a 17% increase, and ignorable with it was almost a 50% decrease.
That's how the news game is played.
Look for more than a one-day spike, esp. when there's a spike like that every 5-6 days. Perhaps groups come in for testing, perhaps test result get returned in lumps.
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)something about a vaccine .....................
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213449087
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)Delphinus
(11,830 posts)those of us concerned were all wet - let's party!
Runningdawg
(4,516 posts)jumped the gun and opened early last week. Last Monday they reported their first case of a worker with the virus in a nail salon. Yesterday they reported another case, in another salon. Neither have closed. The women that were there this week, went shopping afterwards, to the bars and casinos last night, church this morning and to the buffet afterwards. Give it a week.
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)We had next to zero cases where I am located, now 20 in the past week!
Liars!
Midnight Writer
(21,738 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,876 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)that's how they acquire wealth out of thin air, and bury a bunch in off-shore accounts.
Hugin
(33,112 posts)Shame on Reuters. Shame!
FloridaBlues
(4,007 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Talitha
(6,581 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Get the spin out there and let it stew, then when the actual numbers come out, they're "fake news". Sort of like Barr's Mueller report spin.
Penn Voter
(247 posts)comes directly from the Bureau of Trump's Ass!
RAB910
(3,497 posts)and about 3 weeks for deaths to go up
47of74
(18,470 posts)Also this
And this
I can do cash or paypal
yonder
(9,663 posts)musette_sf
(10,200 posts)lark
(23,084 posts)TX was #10 on the list yesterday, 8 today. Wonder why he intentionally left them off?
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)ananda
(28,856 posts)It's opposite world now.
mpcamb
(2,870 posts)kansasobama
(609 posts)How many times do we have to tell you Azar? What you are seeing now reflects what it was 14 days ago-sometimes 20...
CBHagman
(16,984 posts)Coronavirus cases have more than doubled in Alabamas Montgomery County since May 1, as the governor continues to walk back restrictions, allowing many businesses including bars and taverns to reopen with some social distance.