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Sun May 17, 2020, 02:26 PM

Trump's Florida voter registration trips up his Mar-a-Lago plans

Source: raw story







Published 5 hours ago on May 17, 2020



Amid all the intensity and serious of pandemic, this little fable with no international significance has been percolating over in a quiet corner of our world.

Once upon a time, a couple of months ago, Donald Trump moved his formal residence – and voting address – from the gilded Trump Tower in New York City to the equally exclusive Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach. But, in doing so, he stubbed his toe on local regulations that now are keeping him from adding a dock to his property.


Maybe he plans to move from golf to boating. More likely, he wanted to serve his high-flying friends and visitors at Mar-a-Lago by providing a waterside mooring.


Now, Trump has ended up withdrawing his dock request after The Washington Post disclosed that there was a local law requiring that only residential owners are eligible for docks in the interior south Florida waterways..................................

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/trumps-florida-voter-registration-trips-ups-his-mar-a-lago-plans/







https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/under-fire-president-trump-drops-his-mar-a-lago-dock-plan--for-now/2020/05/12/99060dd8-947c-11ea-9f5e-56d8239bf9ad_story.html

.............Reginald Stambaugh, an attorney who represents one of Mar-a-Lago’s neighbors, said he is hopeful that the president will now permanently drop the dock proposal.

“One prevalent issue remains lingering, whether President Trump still considers Mar-a-Lago Club his residence,” Stambaugh said Tuesday. “He still can’t have it both ways. It’s either a club or a residence — not both. Florida’s voting laws apply to citizen Trump. If he resides there, he will have to close the club.”.........................


..............Attorneys and historical preservationists in South Florida immediately began digging into town records, unearthing an agreement that Trump made in 1993 to convert Mar-a-Lago from a single-family residence to a private club owned by a corporation Trump controls. The agreement includes a provision that bans members from using the club’s guest rooms for longer than seven days at a time three times a year. Trump’s attorney at the time, Paul Rampell, assured council members that he would not live at the club.

The agreement also banned construction of a dock, but Trump was asking for that condition to be waived. Trump’s attorney originally argued that the dock was necessary for the president’s protection. That claim was included in an application that made no mention of Mar-a-Lago being the president’s home. In a later application, the rationale was changed, with Trump asserting that the club is his “personal residence.”................................................

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Reply Trump's Florida voter registration trips up his Mar-a-Lago plans (Original post)
riversedge May 2020 OP
no_hypocrisy May 2020 #1
EarlG May 2020 #6
riversedge May 2020 #25
EarlG May 2020 #26
yellowdogintexas May 2020 #27
PatSeg May 2020 #7
guillaumeb May 2020 #2
KS Toronado May 2020 #10
Blue Owl May 2020 #3
mtngirl47 May 2020 #4
Vogon_Glory May 2020 #5
Worried2020 May 2020 #8
stillcool May 2020 #12
monmouth4 May 2020 #14
stillcool May 2020 #15
monmouth4 May 2020 #16
monmouth4 May 2020 #17
stillcool May 2020 #20
monmouth4 May 2020 #21
obamanut2012 May 2020 #24
LiberalFighter May 2020 #9
LeftInTX May 2020 #13
2naSalit May 2020 #11
TryLogic May 2020 #18
mpcamb May 2020 #19
docgee May 2020 #22
BHDem53 May 2020 #23
Mazeltov Cocktail May 2020 #28
WVreaper May 2020 #29

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 02:46 PM

1. So as of this date, Donald Trump is not registered to vote in Florida, or anywhere really.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #1)

Sun May 17, 2020, 03:08 PM

6. And yet he still cast a vote in Florida

“You voted by mail in Florida’s election last month, didn’t you?” the reporter asked.

“Sure,” the president replied. “I can vote by mail.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04/trump-mail-in-voting-is-horrible-except-when-i-do-it


To register in Florida you must:

* be a legal resident of both the State of Florida and of the county in which you seek to be registered

https://www.vote.org/voter-registration-rules


104.011 False swearing; submission of false voter registration information; prosecution prohibited.—

(1) A person who willfully swears or affirms falsely to any oath or affirmation, or willfully procures another person to swear or affirm falsely to an oath or affirmation, in connection with or arising out of voting or elections commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(2) A person who willfully submits any false voter registration information commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(3) A person may not be charged or convicted for a violation of this section for affirming that he or she has not been convicted of a felony or that, if convicted, he or she has had voting rights restored, if such violation is alleged to have occurred on or after January 8, 2019, but before July 1, 2019.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0100-0199/0104/0104.html


Of course, given that Trump is -- according to his legal team -- completely immune from prosecution while serving as president, I guess this means he can register to vote in all 50 states if he feels like it. Hey, he could probably vote like 50 million times in each state if he wanted to. Remember -- when the president does it, it's not a crime!

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Response to EarlG (Reply #6)

Mon May 18, 2020, 09:44 AM

25. umm.. Trump CLAIMED he voted by mail. But did he???

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Response to riversedge (Reply #25)

Mon May 18, 2020, 09:46 AM

26. Heh, good point

If challenged, I'm sure he would claim he never did.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #25)

Mon May 18, 2020, 09:56 AM

27. He lied about the absentee ballot.

Assuming he is not a legal resident per the standards quoted, he would not be able to register to vote there. If he isn't registered to vote in Florida, he would not be sent an absentee ballot.



On the Other Hand, if he is still registered to vote in NY he could have voted absentee in NY State.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #1)

Sun May 17, 2020, 03:15 PM

7. Isn't that delicious?

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 02:50 PM

2. It must be difficult for Trump to keep track of his lies.

He might have more lies than dollars.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Sun May 17, 2020, 03:28 PM

10. He does have more lies than dollars because he's BROKE!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 02:51 PM

3. Mar a Cloggo is trump's holding tank

n/t

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 03:03 PM

4. He said he voted in the Florida primary. Voter Fraud! Lock him up! n/t

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 03:06 PM

5. Being Cynical About Individual One As I Am

I wonder if Donnie wants a dock so he’ll have the option of fleeing the country by boat in case the arrest warrants go out. Fewer questions asked than if he tries to flee by airplane.


(Of course they wouldn’t welcome him in Cuba if he tried to flee south)

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 03:20 PM

8. Rich people get local governments to change regulations/bylaws,whatever all the time.

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Not only that, they can get inspectors, bylaw officers and so on to "miss" obvious violations.

It's always been that way,

Watch and see



W

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Response to Worried2020 (Reply #8)

Sun May 17, 2020, 04:45 PM

12. Palm Beach isn't easy to buy..

it's too small, they're all too wealthy, and I don't think Donald has made many friends there.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #12)

Sun May 17, 2020, 05:33 PM

14. Thank you for posting that. I live in West Palm and worked for years in PB. First of all, the

people of PB really don't like Trump. He's "overly everything." They like quiet and subtle, never ever discuss money except where or when appropriate. Shortly after he bought MAL he thought he would like a huge, and I mean huge American flag in front of the place. Town Fathers said no, too big and ostentatious. The donald was not happy and I believe took them to court. Of course he lost. If he thinks he's going to grease some palms in PB, not going to happen. They laugh at him behind his back.
This is the DU member formerly known as monmouth4.

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Response to monmouth4 (Reply #14)

Sun May 17, 2020, 06:16 PM

15. I worked there too!...

in the early 90's...and I think he had just bought the place around then. I think you're right about the Donald taking them to court...I think he's done a lot of that. He's a loud, obnoxious, embarrassment wherever he goes.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #15)

Sun May 17, 2020, 06:19 PM

16. Oh yes. My boss (now deceased and a big republican) used to listen to Limbaugh every day and I just

had to shut my office door. He used to laugh at trump but because he was a repub he was tolerated.
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Response to stillcool (Reply #15)

Sun May 17, 2020, 06:22 PM

17. I also miss Hamburger Heaven...LOL. n/t

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Response to monmouth4 (Reply #17)

Sun May 17, 2020, 06:38 PM

20. I only spent 5 years in Florida..

while I was there...the amount of people in Palm Beach in the summer, would make social distancing very easy.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #20)

Sun May 17, 2020, 06:41 PM

21. Hahaha, yes indeed. Nice chatting with you. n/t

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Response to Worried2020 (Reply #8)

Mon May 18, 2020, 05:55 AM

24. hahaha not in PBC

Especially THAT part of PBC. His neighbors are waaaaaay wealthier than him, and most do not like him at all.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 03:24 PM

9. Florida shows him being registered on 10/30/2019 with Maralago address.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #9)

Sun May 17, 2020, 05:15 PM

13. I wonder if anyone else resides at that address?

Staff who live there?

Then, if it's like Texas, he can legally vote there. In Texas, you aren't supposed to register at a business address. However people do it all the time and nothing happens. However, even if caught, the worst thing they do will just unregister you.

We have a few people that get caught when they use a business address (a post office address, gas station, vacant lot or junkyard etc) when they file for office. They literally commit fraud just to get into a jurisdiction where they feel they can win etc.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 04:14 PM

11. He's always fighting with his neighbors

because he usually only has intent to trash their hard earned comfort.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 06:35 PM

18. Perhaps a dock would help provide a way for him to escape to Russia

when all of his legal problems mature.
This is the DU member formerly known as TryLogic.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 06:36 PM

19. If you stay there and come out with bedbug scabies, you're the lucky one.!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 08:33 PM

22. So trump committed voter fraud?

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 12:16 AM

23. I think he's registered in

St. Petersburg.

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Response to BHDem53 (Reply #23)

Mon May 18, 2020, 10:48 AM

28. Florida or Russia???

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 02:34 PM

29. Isn't this voter fraud?

If, under Florida law, Mar-o-lago can't be both a club and a residence. So then how can he use Mar-o-lago as his voting residence?

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