HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » Biden says he was too 'ca...

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:07 PM

Biden says he was too 'cavalier' about black Trump backers

Source: AP

ATLANTA (AP) — Joe Biden declared he “should not have been so cavalier” on Friday after he told a prominent black radio host that African Americans who back President Donald Trump “ain’t black.”

The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee quickly moved to address the fallout from his remark, which was interpreted by some as presuming black Americans would vote for him. In a call with the U.S. Black Chamber of Commerce that was added to his public schedule, Biden said he would never “take the African American community for granted.”

“I shouldn’t have been such a wise guy,” Biden said. “No one should have to vote for any party based on their race or religion or background.”

That was an acknowledgement of the stinging criticism he received in response to his comments, which he made on “The Breakfast Club,” a radio program that is popular in the black community.

Read more: https://apnews.com/0f8813ff34ac85bb4ce928ffd2265c96

54 replies, 4038 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 54 replies Author Time Post
Reply Biden says he was too 'cavalier' about black Trump backers (Original post)
alp227 May 2020 OP
Skittles May 2020 #1
trof May 2020 #18
Skittles May 2020 #20
Buzz cook May 2020 #23
hamsterjill May 2020 #47
Bengus81 May 2020 #53
trof May 2020 #54
NotHardly May 2020 #2
Ligyron May 2020 #3
LiberalArkie May 2020 #14
lunasun May 2020 #41
not_the_one May 2020 #49
maxsolomon May 2020 #4
myohmy2 May 2020 #29
catbyte May 2020 #5
Maxheader May 2020 #10
betsuni May 2020 #28
KPN May 2020 #38
pnwmom May 2020 #6
lkinwi May 2020 #7
KPN May 2020 #39
Lock him up. May 2020 #8
still_one May 2020 #9
Generic Other May 2020 #34
walkingman May 2020 #11
milestogo May 2020 #12
Chemisse May 2020 #13
Generic Other May 2020 #35
Politicub May 2020 #15
TheCowsCameHome May 2020 #16
Generic Other May 2020 #36
Paladin May 2020 #17
djacq May 2020 #19
Generic Other May 2020 #37
SunSeeker May 2020 #21
agingdem May 2020 #22
larwdem May 2020 #33
Scalded Nun May 2020 #24
MustLoveBeagles May 2020 #42
SkatmanRoth May 2020 #25
roamer65 May 2020 #26
Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2020 #27
StocktonNative May 2020 #32
MustLoveBeagles May 2020 #44
MustLoveBeagles May 2020 #43
qwlauren35 May 2020 #30
StocktonNative May 2020 #31
KPN May 2020 #40
Wolf Frankula May 2020 #45
OneCrazyDiamond May 2020 #46
question everything May 2020 #48
R B Garr May 2020 #50
BigDemVoter May 2020 #51
Naio May 2020 #52

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:13 PM

1. *sigh*

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:09 PM

18. I know. Sadly he's his own worst enemy.

I will vote for him.
No, he wasn't my first (or second or third) choice, but I WILL vote for him.

He thinks he's being 'folksy' or something, but it just doesn't come off that way.

Joe, clam up.
Don't try to be a 'bro' or a 'homie'.
Silence is golden.
Better to be seen and not heard.
Let others sing your praises.
Please.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to trof (Reply #18)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:16 PM

20. DITTO

absolutely correct

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to trof (Reply #18)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:34 PM

23. Not clam up, but

yes he needs to stop trying the folksy stuff.

Biden needs to start giving some serious policy speeches. He could do one a week till the election and not run out of issues.

It also might be a good idea if he chaired some issue oriented round tables. Showing the contrast between how Biden deals with experts and Trump does, can only help him. it would also be a preview of how a Biden cabinet meeting would look.

Biden has won the primary, now he has to get people enthusiastic about that.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Buzz cook (Reply #23)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:21 PM

47. Excellent post!

n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Buzz cook (Reply #23)

Sun May 24, 2020, 08:46 AM

53. Yep...how hard would it be for his GD campaing manager to TELL him that??

Gawd.......

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Buzz cook (Reply #23)

Sun May 24, 2020, 06:38 PM

54. Yes.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:17 PM

2. I don't want and need an "Uncle Joe". I need him to act like a goddamn adult with some sense.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:19 PM

3. Already attacking Joe for anything they can get their hands on.

BF Deal, we know what he meant.

You're not even a decent American and certainly no patriot if you vote for Dump.

I might question if you'd even be human.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ligyron (Reply #3)

Fri May 22, 2020, 07:28 PM

14. It is always a big deal. He has always had a problem with impulsive behavior, But

He knows how to operate in the White House and legislature and just Washington in general. Once he has people around him to say "No Joe, that is not proper in these days".

He will do alright, but he still needs someone to tell him no, don't get that close to people, control your language and think before you speak. You know how to do it Joe. It is hard to control impulsive behavior when a person gets older. I know I am 72. But I can tell I am different than just a few years ago.

It is early in the campaign, he just needs to have someone with him to slap him in the back of the head like a Gibbs or maybe even an Obama would do.


I was hoping someone younger would be the nominee as it will be hard on Joe. But he may be the person for this point in time.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #14)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:03 AM

41. Yes, Biden must win now. But it is a big f n deal also because there are black republicans

I bet it is a big deal to find out they are not black from him.
I’m no fan of Blexit but this is what they try to say Dems think
May be Rs are a minority of voters but won’t get more to come to dem side with that talk imo
Stereotyping or trying to dismiss he has no place to dust them like that

And plays in to Blexit
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/06/trump-black-young-conservatives-summit-229435

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lunasun (Reply #41)

Sat May 23, 2020, 07:27 PM

49. The question is WHY are there black republicans?

And I think THAT was his point. (And I have no intention of wasting my time being concerned what a black republican thinks, or a gay republican, or a jewish republican. They have made their decision and I want no part of it.)

The turd has done nothing for blacks. Yet he still manages to get them to be his props for his ads, photo ops. To him, they are nothing but props. They should realize that.

The thing is, I think they DO know. But 15 minutes of fame/infamy/notoriety is 15 minutes that they DIDN'T have.

I swear, I think the cell phone, and everything that came with it, will be what destroys us. Talk about the perfect weapon for a circular firing squad...

WE stand in a circle and fire, while they LINE UP single file and fire at us.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:22 PM

4. Great. Hand President Sociopath and his spawn a club to beat you with.

Take a tip from Obama: he was never cavalier. He spoke slowly so he could consider every word.

He should know by now: words only matter if you're a Democrat.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to maxsolomon (Reply #4)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:40 PM

29. +1

...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:24 PM

5. I get so pissed off when Biden uses inelegant phrasing and everybody acts like it's the end of

the world or at least his career, forcing him to apologize, but that thing currently infesting the White House can wax poetic about the "pure bloodlines" of a dead Nazi sympathizer and nobody blinks.

It's beyond tiresome.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to catbyte (Reply #5)

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:57 PM

10. Bastards don't see their own inelegance...



Bush, shrub...gop in general are a bunch of fuckin goons..

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to catbyte (Reply #5)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:33 PM

28. +1

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to catbyte (Reply #5)

Fri May 22, 2020, 11:56 PM

38. But he's been doing it and getting that response for decades. Just sayin' ...

mind you, I'm no better and probably worse, but I'm not the presumptive Democratic Party nominee for President.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:39 PM

6. I'm glad he said this. His ability to apologize is healthy and in stark contrast to Trump. n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to pnwmom (Reply #6)

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:43 PM

7. I agree.

He said something stupid and apologized. The end.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to pnwmom (Reply #6)

Fri May 22, 2020, 11:57 PM

39. That is one way to look at it. I'm sure he was genuine in saying he screwed up -- gotta like that.

Thank you for that pressure valve.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:48 PM

8. The U.S. Black Chamber of Commerce should consider this:

AA community should vote for an experienced and very decent Joe Biden

OR

AA community should vote for a long proven racist who squandered over $400 Million he inherited from his KKK father, bankrupted 5 casinos, 2 other ill-CONceived ventures, launched over 3,500 lawsuits to not pay his contractors, employees, and suppliers, and is about to bankrupt the Treasury with a 2020 deficit of over $4 Trillion https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2020/04/24/federal-budget-deficit-will-approach-4-trillion-in-2020-cbo-says-as-the-economy-continues-to-nosedive/#642c536b207b

Yeah. Really, really think about it before complaining!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 06:53 PM

9. He apologized.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to still_one (Reply #9)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:53 PM

34. He owned up to "trying to be a wise guy"

We don't need perfect Democrats, we just need human Democrats to beat THAT GODDAMN BIRD in the White House.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 07:04 PM

11. Biden better wise up and think about what he says - the GOP's attack machine does not take prisoners

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to walkingman (Reply #11)

Fri May 22, 2020, 07:09 PM

12. He's never been careful with words.

After decades in the Senate and 8 years in the Vice Presidency, its unlikely that he'll start now.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 07:18 PM

13. Joe makes a verbal gaffe and later apologizes. He's been doing that for many decades.

That's probably the main reason he never got the nomination for president in past races.

His willingness to say what's on his mind with a not-so-tight filter is actually one thing I like about him. It makes him genuine. It makes him a little flawed in a relatable way.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Chemisse (Reply #13)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:55 PM

35. Yes, I have the same problem

A few DU alerts to prove it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 07:52 PM

16. Um, Joe...

Think carefully before you speak. We don't need an apology tour in 2020.

Just sayin'.....now get back out there and kick Trump's ass.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #16)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:56 PM

36. An Apology Tour is just what we need!

only Trump should be on it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:03 PM

17. Back the fuck off of Joe Biden.

trump makes multiple stumbles like this, every single day---but they are hurtful, ignorant, mean-spirited stumbles, and he never, ever apologizes. Godalmighty, be thankful for how good a candidate we have---and tell me the last time you had a perfect Democrat to vote for.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:11 PM

19. Grandpa gaffed and everybody freaks out.

The Trump Campaign shouldn't go down this rabbit hole. They'll be taken to school;

Remember this;

“What do you have to lose by trying something new, like Trump?” he asked a crowd in Virginia on Saturday. “You’re living in your poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed — what the hell do you have to lose?”

[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump?wprov=sfla1|

I'll invite Joe Biden to the Barbeque before I invite a Black Trump Supporter.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to djacq (Reply #19)

Fri May 22, 2020, 11:02 PM

37. I see your avatar and think of Mr. Freeman

I suspect he or many of the older black church women who turn out to vote are not going to be swayed by a shock jock who calls himself "Charlemagne tha God." I may be wrong though. Just a guess on my part.

Biden needs to choose his VP wisely.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:28 PM

21. Biden's heart is always in the right place, even if his mouth isn't.

Enough with the Biden bashing. He apologized right away. It was a gaffe. There will be others. That's Joe. We can't let it rattle us. We've got a great candidate with a big heart, who will mend our broken country from the Trump carnage. Enough with the pearl clutching over an awkward utterance, save that for Trump, an actual racist.

Trump's lies and incompetence let this pandemic get out of control and it is literally killing African Americans, but we're really going to bust Joe's chops over this??



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:31 PM

22. relax

its only May..and this is Joe...so tired of the freak-outs...do you really think African-Americans are going to vote for Trump bc Joe said "they ain't black"? and btw..Joe is right and the black voters know it...he apologized...move on...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to agingdem (Reply #22)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:45 PM

33. I agree

Joe is right and the black voters know it. from me a white guy with balls enough to tell the Truth

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:41 PM

24. Coulda, shoulda, woulda said it better

But now I'll say this to the GOP and most of the press. You haven't said shit about Trump and his 'Good People' friends for over 3 years and now you want to criticizer someone for a poorly worded comment? Shut the fuck up.
GOP - Shut the fuck up
Press - Shut the fuck up and go cover White Domestic Terrorism and all the other treasonous shit Trump's 'Good People' are pulling around the country. Cover McConnell's criminal behavior relating to judicial appointments. Hell, start seriously covering the 5,000,000 illegal acts by Trump and his minions. Cover the looting of this country. Remember Flint, Michigan? I doubt it based upon your continuing coverage.
I, too, do not understand why any person of color would support Trump. I also do not understand why any female would support him. Hell, I do not understand why any intelligent person would support Trump.
But I find it fucking astounding that after 3-plus years of silence and acquiescence to the shit bag now occupying the White House the GOP feels it is time to harp on 1 comment.
GOP - I guess it is time to dust off your phony outrage badges.

Sorry, many loose thoughts, a lot of rage and I'm just so fucking fed up with all of this.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Scalded Nun (Reply #24)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:30 AM

42. +1000

I'm right there with you in feeling fed up. Your loose thoughts bear a striking resemblance to mine. Hang in there and let's kick some ass in November.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:42 PM

25. Joe, don't back up. Never back up.

True Democrats are not attacking you Joe. Ignore the opportunistic confrontations and just proceed straight ahead with the campaign.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:48 PM

26. He's right...but just very poorly worded.

Why do minorities and the poor in this country vote against their own interests?

It’s mind boggling.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:28 PM

27. TURN THIS INTO A POSITIVE - a candidate who makes amends and corrects the situation when he

makes a mistake and takes responsibility and doesnt blame other peoplee.

HOW REFRESHING.

Seriously, anyone over the age of 2 ought to understand that people do make mistakes or chooses the wrong word. The question is, what do they do about it, how do they repair the situation. DO they repair the situation, or just whine and blame other people.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Kashkakat v.2.0 (Reply #27)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

32. Kashkakat Gets it!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to StocktonNative (Reply #32)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:32 AM

44. Yes they do

And welcome to DU.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Kashkakat v.2.0 (Reply #27)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:31 AM

43. +1

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:54 PM

30. It was a dumb thing to say.

No sane black Democrat is going to turn around and say "no, I'll vote for Trump" based on this stupid comment.

BUT! For the landslide that we want, he should not take black Independents for granted. And if he keeps his mouth shut, he might win some black Republicans.

Go for the landslide, Joe. Keep your mouth shut.

This is the man we want to represent us overseas. This is the man we want to have greeting foreign dignitaries. This is the man we want to clean up Trump's mess the way Obama cleaned up behind Bush.

I'd like to have high expectations. Maybe not a Nobel Peace Prize, but a restoration of our standing in the world.

I am NOT voting for Trump. But please, Joe Biden, raise the bar like you're running against John McCain. Make us proud instead of desperate.

As I saw on Facebook, I may wear a mask, social distance and stay at home for the next four months, but on November 3rd, me in my hazmat suit is going to the polls.

I'm not voting for Trump, but please Joe, go for the landslide. And stop saying stupid shit.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:25 PM

31. Well, before the ALT-Right Wingnuts fall all over themselves....

He immediately apologized and cleared up what he meant. It was pretty obviously a "joke" in the context of that interview.


He'll just have to remind everyone that Drumpf ran on the "Obama isn't a real citizen" schtick and other slogans "Mexicans are rapists and Murderers". Because in Drumpf's mind all minorities are shit.

And, WeakWhyte Supremacist Rah Rah parties are chock full of people who are great on both sides.

Bef

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:00 AM

40. Loe being Joe. The only thing he needs to do is make sure he's only cavalier when talking about

righties.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat May 23, 2020, 01:01 AM

45. Democrats don't have to be absolutely perfect.

If you think they do, you'll probably help re-elect that four times bankrupt shyster tRump in November.

Wolf

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat May 23, 2020, 11:56 AM

46. Donald J Trump is the alternative.

Why, would anything else matter? We know what not electing Joe Biden would be. The die is cast.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:35 PM

48. If Trump had a similar comment, he would have been described as "authentic"

As Trump being Trump.

I wish our side stopped apologizing for everything but it appears to be in our DNA.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2020, 02:37 AM

50. I think most people know that interview/venue was

sure to produce some nits to pick.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2020, 03:01 AM

51. Dumb thing to say.

But Pussy-Grabber is still a piece of shit who is ruining the country. I don't care what Biden says. I will vote for him if I have to crawl over broken glass and burning coals to do so.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2020, 07:44 AM

52. Vote Biden 2020

I don’t care what Biden says .. iam still voting for him.biden is a good man not a monster like cottoN candy hair.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread