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pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:38 PM Jun 2020

George Floyd's death was homicide, county medical examiner rules

Source: Washington Post

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner on Monday said George Floyd’s death was a homicide. Floyd died of “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression," according to the report. The report notes that Floyd was also suffering from heart disease, fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use, though it does not list those factors in the cause of death.

An independent autopsy commissioned by Floyd’s family determined the cause of his death was “asphyxiation from sustained pressure,” attorneys for the family announced Monday.

Here are some significant developments:

In some cities, law enforcement officers were seen marching and kneeling with protesters. But elsewhere, police in riot gear continued to increase their use of force, which added to the disorder. On Monday, Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear (D) ordered a state investigation after a man was fatally shot during an overnight confrontation with Louisville police and the National Guard.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/01/george-floyd-protests-live-updates/

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George Floyd's death was homicide, county medical examiner rules (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2020 OP
I'm glad to hear that the full report called it a homicide leftieNanner Jun 2020 #1
the county coroner quickly changed his tune DENVERPOPS Jun 2020 #3
Just curious, did the other docs actually look DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #4
I am pretty confident that DENVERPOPS Jun 2020 #5
Sometimes the second opinion medical examiners DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #7
Yes they do, in most cases. DENVERPOPS Jun 2020 #9
Now the prosecutor needs to call it first degree murder FakeNoose Jun 2020 #2
In all US jurisdictions... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2020 #8
"Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows." nt captain jack Jun 2020 #6

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
1. I'm glad to hear that the full report called it a homicide
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:41 PM
Jun 2020

The partial release of information from the Medical Examiner sounded like it was focusing on Floyd's heart disease etc. Sounded like they might white wash the cop's actions.

Guess not. Now, AG Ellison - get to it! And arrest the other three.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
3. the county coroner quickly changed his tune
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 11:54 PM
Jun 2020

when he learned that the family had brought in a well known local Dr. and Dr. Michael Braden for a second autopsy.

Dr. Michael Braden is a nationally recognized Forensic Pathologist. His finding differed incredibly from all the first coroners BS about heart problems.

Braden said no question: Murder, and by more than the cop kneeling on his neck, but also by the others kneeling on the victim at the same time restricting the victim's diaphragm and lungs from expanding......

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
4. Just curious, did the other docs actually look
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 06:53 AM
Jun 2020

at the body or just at autopsy photos along with reading the autopsy findings by the county coroner?

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
5. I am pretty confident that
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:57 AM
Jun 2020

someone as respected as Dr. Michael Braden? would insist on seeing everything including any other autopsy reports, and the body.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
9. Yes they do, in most cases.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:45 PM
Jun 2020

When someone has the Reputation that he has, (or a few other forensic pathologists at his level) they don't ignore a single thing.
You may find it interesting that in countless counties and states, the local coroner doesn't even have to have a Medical Degree.....
Scary, huh.....................

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
8. In all US jurisdictions...
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 02:59 PM
Jun 2020

...first degree requires proof of premeditation. IMO (I'm not a lawyer) third degree, in this case, is rather clear. I don't know if MN law allows the jury to decide which degree is proven by the evidence and testimony.

MN 609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings.
Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:
(1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or
(2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit a drive-by shooting in violation of section 609.66, subdivision 1e, under circumstances other than those described in section 609.185, paragraph (a), clause (3).
Again, I'm not a lawyer, but IMO constricting the ability of person to breathe for that period evinces an intent to kill. IMO, second degree is an appropriate charge.

609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
(b) Whoever, without intent to cause death, proximately causes the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $40,000, or both.
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