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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:02 PM Jun 2020

Three men connected to 'boogaloo' movement tried to provoke violence at protests, feds say

Source: NBC News


NBC News reported last weekend that members of the "Boogaloo" movement were seen at protests in states including Minnesota and Texas, as well as in Philadelphia.

June 3, 2020, 7:12 PM CDT

By Andrew Blankstein, Tom Winter and Brandy Zadrozny

Federal prosecutors in Las Vegas have charged three men alleged to be members of the far-right extremist "Boogaloo" movement with multiple state and federal violations of conspiracy to cause destruction during protests in Las Vegas, as well as possession of Molotov cocktails.

Charging documents say Stephen T. Parshall, aka "Kiwi," 35; Andrew Lynam, 23; and William L. Loomis, 40, all of Las Vegas, were arrested Saturday on a state criminal complaint alleging conspiracy to commit an act of terrorism, material support for committing an act of terrorism and multiple explosives violations. The plot was foiled with help from an informant.

The "Boogaloo" movement, which federal prosecutors describe as a "term used by extremists to signify a coming civil war and/or collapse of society," has been linked to some online posts about protests over the death of George Floyd.

NBC News reported last weekend that members of the "Boogaloo" movement were seen at protests in states including Minnesota and Texas, as well as in Philadelphia.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/three-men-connected-boogaloo-movement-tried-provoke-violence-protests-feds-n1224231

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Three men connected to 'boogaloo' movement tried to provoke violence at protests, feds say (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2020 OP
I wonder how long criminal justice will remain vigilant on cases like these bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #1
As long as the news cameras are there to watch them. n/t Jamastiene Jun 2020 #11
And these days we ALL have cameras. nt oldsoftie Jun 2020 #13
How is Barr going to sidestep this one? Lose the evidence? Say they were exercising 2nd amendment? Ford_Prefect Jun 2020 #2
They're up on state charges too DrToast Jun 2020 #8
Beat me by a minute! moving my post on to 'Editorials' appalachiablue Jun 2020 #3
But DUers claimed there is no Boogaloo IronLionZion Jun 2020 #4
Thank you. Jamastiene Jun 2020 #12
Considering how many educated people we have on this board IronLionZion Jun 2020 #16
These clowns are desperate for a civil war. Turbineguy Jun 2020 #5
Denver PD confiscated their guns, but let them go. Marcuse Jun 2020 #6
Right... SergeStorms Jun 2020 #7
God bless the informant. Talitha Jun 2020 #9
So, are these guys wealthy? MN, TX, PA? More free time and money than I've ever had. Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #10
Over the years.. Maxheader Jun 2020 #14
Groups like this are identical to ISIS. Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #15
Vanilla Isis mahina Jun 2020 #17
Isn't it ironic -- all these Laws of Unintended Consequences Hestia Jun 2020 #18

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
2. How is Barr going to sidestep this one? Lose the evidence? Say they were exercising 2nd amendment?
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:20 PM
Jun 2020

Re-write the terms of terrorism statute to say such applies "only when done by non-citizens?"

Why have they only arrested 3?????

The FBI task force who monitor this kind of activity surely has more leads than this.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
4. But DUers claimed there is no Boogaloo
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:13 PM
Jun 2020

just like the OK symbol means OK, swastika is a religious symbol, and white sheets mean ghosts.

Just because some symbol or word meant something years ago doesn't mean far-right extremists aren't using it for bad things now. DUers should be able to understand this.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
12. Thank you.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:54 AM
Jun 2020

I've been trying to get people to understand on here for ages. They just won't. The ones who do want to understand, do. The ones who don't, no matter how much evidence you go look up for them, they keep their heads in the sand. Then there are the ones who demand you go look up all of the information for them but you can tell they are going to refuse to believe it anyhow. I know those types. I refuse to do it for them and waste my time with them. They will refuse to believe it anyhow. You can tell by how many other people do go look up the evidence for them and they still refuse to see the truth.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
16. Considering how many educated people we have on this board
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 09:19 AM
Jun 2020

it seems deliberate. They don't want to accept that these things are happening because it's a scary thought and/or they hope it doesn't impact them personally...yet.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
7. Right...
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:24 AM
Jun 2020

that's just stuff the normal American carries around in the trunk of their car. It's like having a spare tire, or a first aid kit. I'm sure they never intended to use any of it.

Midnight Writer

(21,712 posts)
10. So, are these guys wealthy? MN, TX, PA? More free time and money than I've ever had.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:11 AM
Jun 2020

I wonder how they make their living?

I wonder if our Law Enforcement will be allowed to "Follow The Money"?



That's how they break up Drug Cartels, isn't it?

Maxheader

(4,370 posts)
14. Over the years..
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 07:57 AM
Jun 2020

One of many winger terrorist groups. Now what? A book? Daytime show guests?

The fuckers have been cropping up like fleas on a dog..

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
15. Groups like this are identical to ISIS.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 08:19 AM
Jun 2020

They have been radicalized via the dark sites on the Internet. They are willing to use violence and murder to achieve their goals. Their goal is a civil war so they can establish a white state, just as ISIS radicalizes young Muslim men to establish their own Islamic state.

These groups should be categorized as domestic terrorists. Unfortunately they use our free speech laws against us, but if we allow these groups to continue to grow, eventually they will be large enough to start a civil war. And they know they have support with Republicans in charge, especially Trump. These instigators have been clever in infiltrating protests and planning to blow things up around protests so that black people will be blamed. State governors could deploy the National Guard, but would Republican governors do that, especially against Trump’s wishes? He hates the protesters.

Barr and the DOJ will do very little because they’re too busy trying to help Trump get reelected. I’m not sure what can be done, but I think we need some news laws relating to white nationalism. It is hate speech definitely, but the question is how to maintain free speech but deal with groups like this before they kill people.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
18. Isn't it ironic -- all these Laws of Unintended Consequences
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:31 AM
Jun 2020

1. We are not all Penelope Garcia types (Criminal Minds) who grew up with a USB as an umbilical cord. I, personally, wouldn't have a clue as to even get to the Deep Web, other than typing in IP address. After that, poof, done. At this point of my life, I have no desire to learn nor do I want to go there.

2. There have been articles about how the very people who can fight the good fight on the Dark Web are out there and have submitted resume's to help fight the Deep Web but have been turned down for employment (why should they fight for free) because they smoke cannabis. After delving the bowels of hell, can you blame them? Well, seems the bureaucracy can, because, the bosses who go to bat for these people trying to gain employment, someone with a red stamp, stamps "DENIED" on their paperwork and are put into the system for future employment.

3. So, we are left with the rah-rah-sis-boom-bah types, who are the easily swayed types, due to perceived (or unperceived) are the very ones who help our "enemies" (that is such a broad word) because we don't understand their plight. Becoming the very people they were hired to fight.

4. Once Reason has Prevailed, and "we the people" (who make less than a billion a year) can attend and shore up our government functions, laws as no cannabis use if you want employment, need to be overturned.

Joe was very instrumental in setting up the Drug Czar's office and functions and through his persuasion, kept the Federal Laws on Cannabis from being overturned years ago. This is where the VP pick becomes very important - who presides over the Senate. Someone who isn't going to actively work against 60% or more of people wanting the laws to become a footnote of history. Institutional Memory is one thing, Institutional Dinosaur-ism is another.

Back to OP, I would say 70% (giving IQ45 his "base&quot want to root out the umbrella white supremacy groups and quell them forever, but we've got to give them to the tools to do so. At this point of our lives, cannabis is the least of our worries (alcoholism is a worry) and get on with it. We know the problems, we've just got to break down the barriers to do so.

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