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brooklynite

(94,490 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 07:42 AM Jun 2020

GOP expects to move its convention to Jacksonville after dispute with North Carolina

Source: Washington Post

Seeking a city willing to allow a large-scale event amid the coronavirus pandemic, Republicans have tentatively settled on Jacksonville, Fla., as the new destination for the premier festivities of the Republican National Convention in August, according to three Republican officials briefed on the plans.

The details of the arrangement are still in flux and RNC aides are scrambling to determine whether the northern Florida city has enough hotel rooms to accommodate the quadrennial event, which typically kicks off the final stretch of the presidential campaign.

Republican officials were in Jacksonville on Monday looking at the city and the surrounding areas.

The convention’s more routine and lower-profile meetings still would take place in Charlotte, the original host site for the convention, according to two officials. Those smaller meetings are intended to honor the RNC’s contractual obligation to hold its convention in North Carolina and shield the party from lawsuits for moving the large events elsewhere.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-expects-to-move-its-convention-to-jacksonville-after-dispute-with-north-carolina-over-pandemic-safeguards/2020/06/09/8c96e088-aaaa-11ea-a9d9-a81c1a491c52_story.html

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GOP expects to move its convention to Jacksonville after dispute with North Carolina (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2020 OP
Goo. Everyone will be happier. nt NCjack Jun 2020 #1
Not quite "Everyone" Fritz Walter Jun 2020 #3
Couldn't have said it better than Tampa's former mayor Fritz Walter Jun 2020 #12
My apologies. When I lived in St. Marys, GA, NCjack Jun 2020 #14
Your instinct for self-preservation is not selfishness Fritz Walter Jun 2020 #16
There are a LOT of currently unused cruise ships just sitting around right now. SeattleVet Jun 2020 #27
Yeah, let's infect TWO CITIES! Two is better than one, right? machoneman Jun 2020 #18
They should just cancel the convention and hold a giant Chump Rally FakeNoose Jun 2020 #2
I think most people will be afraid to go anyway soothsayer Jun 2020 #4
Because hot weather makes COVID-19 disappear! It's a MIRACLE! bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #5
I'm sure DeSatan is tickled pink. nt Phoenix61 Jun 2020 #6
I wonder what Ron DeRacist told Jax Mayor Lenny Curry Fritz Walter Jun 2020 #15
They have signed contracts in NC. They will still have to pay them even if they cancel. KWR65 Jun 2020 #7
Republicans have shown they have no qualms about stiffing their debts. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #8
Good luck Rebl2 Jun 2020 #25
President Deadbeat doesn't care about debts. TeamPooka Jun 2020 #28
The GOP Traveling Snake Oil and Medicine Show... IthinkThereforeIAM Jun 2020 #9
Not many hotels near the site** MRDAWG Jun 2020 #10
Deplorables; Breathe deep IronLionZion Jun 2020 #11
I think Rebl2 Jun 2020 #26
Wait for it. They'll change the location at last one more time before the convention. Nitram Jun 2020 #13
AWESOME, lets spread more COVID love to florida!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! beachbumbob Jun 2020 #17
traveling snake oil salesmen. nt Javaman Jun 2020 #19
Jacksonville doesn't have the rooms - what fucking idiots these fools be. lark Jun 2020 #20
Hi, neighbor! Fritz Walter Jun 2020 #29
And how do the Delegates feel about being sardines in a can? Talitha Jun 2020 #21
With Florida covid spiking - this makes perfect sense. BlueIdaho Jun 2020 #22
My brother lives in JAX Jimbo S Jun 2020 #23
Jacksonville's excitement Bayard Jun 2020 #24

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
3. Not quite "Everyone"
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 07:56 AM
Jun 2020

As a Democrat living in Jacksonville, this would just add insult (hosting RepubliCONs) to injury (COVID-19).

The concern about hotel rooms is very real. In 2005, when the city hosted SuperBowl XXXIX, they docked two cruise ships downtown to accommodate the visitors. Given the recent history about the pandemic, I would not be suprised if the city and convention planners agree on that same approach.

Does anybody seriously expect these visitors to practice safe distancing? Wear masks? The only downside I can see is the virus spreading to the hospitality workers, family members and others who will be exposed to the virus. To say nothing of the toxic agenda and rabble-rousing.



Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
12. Couldn't have said it better than Tampa's former mayor
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:04 AM
Jun 2020

In 2012, Tampa hosted the RNC convention. According to former mayor Bob Buckhorn (D), this is totally different.

Buckhorn offers four main reasons he thinks it's a mistake for Jacksonville:
1) COVID-19

Buckhorn says, "You're bringing 20,000 to 50,000 additional people to your city in (from) areas where they may have been not as successful as Jacksonville has been in flattening the curve. You are bringing folks with this virus, some of whom don't even know they're carriers of this virus, and putting them inside an indoor arena...

2) Climate of civil unrest

Buckhorn says it took $50 million dollars, rooted in financial help from the federal government, to do security in Tampa in 2012....He says Tampa spent two years preparing for the RNC, but now Jacksonville doesn't have enough time to prepare adequately...

3) No salvation for downtown business

Buckhorn says he can understand why businesses in Jacksonville would eye the RNC as an economic boost, especially those hurting in the pandemic...But he says in Tampa, downtown businesses were disappointed to find out the security perimeter around Tampa's convention center was so wide and tight that customers couldn't get into their shops and restaurants....

4) Hurricane season

Isaac caused the RNC in Tampa to cancel its first day. Buckhorn says Tampa spent most of two years prior to the convention planning for different scenarios, including how to handle thousands of people, many not familiar with hurricanes, during a tropical storm. He says a couple of months is not enough time for Jacksonville to make a game plan for such events out of human control...


Source: First Coast News

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
14. My apologies. When I lived in St. Marys, GA,
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jun 2020

my wife and I frequently visited Jax for medical services and shopping. And, especially grouper sandwiches at a beach bar (I forget the name of that place). What I remember the most about Jax was the continual move to RW politics. In 2014, we moved to NC.

My wife and I live in a seniors apartment house near Chapel Hill that has been "locked-down" since early February. Businesses opened 2 weeks ago and the CV curve is now increasing. Our hope of getting out of "lockdown" by September is shattered. If the GOP Convention comes to Charolette, I don't see the end for our "lockdown". Maybe October -- just in time for flu season. Or, maybe in 2021.

Again, I was selfish and I apologize. Regardless of where the GOP Convention is, it appears that it will done with no safe guards for the people in the state. People are going to die for Trump and his minions.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
16. Your instinct for self-preservation is not selfishness
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jun 2020

Your apology is appreciated anyway.

I'm just trying to decide which protests I will attend and which t-shirt to wear.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
27. There are a LOT of currently unused cruise ships just sitting around right now.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jun 2020

Require that attendees use them as floating hotels, and then as soon as the CON-vention ends just go ahead float them all out for a mandatory 2-week 'quarantine cruise'.

After all, he did want to give financial relief to the cruise lines...so it can become a win/win all around!

FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
2. They should just cancel the convention and hold a giant Chump Rally
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 07:51 AM
Jun 2020

That's all it's going to be anyway. At least there's the chance that if Chump gets his rally that he so desperately wants, somebody might infect him with the virus.

When they call it a "convention" then the news networks have to cover it because it's, well, "news." If it's a rally they can ditch it and show reruns of I Love Lucy or something.



KWR65

(1,098 posts)
7. They have signed contracts in NC. They will still have to pay them even if they cancel.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 08:20 AM
Jun 2020

President Chaos strikes again.

keithbvadu2

(36,748 posts)
8. Republicans have shown they have no qualms about stiffing their debts.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 08:31 AM
Jun 2020

Republicans have shown they have no qualms about stiffing their debts.

IronLionZion

(45,413 posts)
11. Deplorables; Breathe deep
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 08:54 AM
Jun 2020

Democrats in JAX: steer clear of these elephants stampeding through your city spreading COVID

lark

(23,086 posts)
20. Jacksonville doesn't have the rooms - what fucking idiots these fools be.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jun 2020

WTF, can anyone at RNC read and have any comprehension? Jacksonville doesn't have a huge numbers of motel/hotel rooms available so this is ridiculous. Jax is also a purple city that voted blue in the last election, are these fools so stupid they think there won't be protests here - there will be. They will probably be violent as well since all the gun shops emptied out in March and are still empty because everyt time stock comes in, the rednecks are buying them all to stop us from throwing out their assmouth or even disrespecting him.

God damn it to hell, this is my city and my sister with the terrible lungs lives here. She even works, so can't stay inside and hide like I'll be doing and I can't put myself at risk protesting because if she gets it she probably wouldn't live. Well, I just might have to protest, then not see her for 3 weeks to be safe, but she's so alone and I'm the only family she's got here. Of course, she would probably encourage me to go being the person she is.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
29. Hi, neighbor!
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 05:38 PM
Jun 2020

I'm an Avondalien, and share your concerns.
Clearly, our Mare and Goobernor have put their political careers ahead of the safety and security of our citizens. On another discussion here, I pointed out how the city had to bring in cruise ships to accommodate visitors to SuperBowl XXXIX in 2005, Can you imagine the combination of MAGAts -- who will not practice safe pandemic protocols -- and using floating incubators (cruise ships) to "host" these visitors? Even Steven King couldn't concoct a narrative so disastrous! Not only putting hospitality workers at high risk, but also their families and other innocent bystanders.

I'd be happy to donate to bring the baby balloon to our fair city. The question is "where to float it?"
- Airport?
- Riverfront?
- Prime Osborn Convention Center (or at least nearby)?
- All of the above?

I'm considering maybe even join others in a public protest. Although I'm at high risk myself, I heard that last weekend's protest was the largest ever here. Sounds like a challenge...

Talitha

(6,581 posts)
21. And how do the Delegates feel about being sardines in a can?
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jun 2020

I'm guessing many of them are nervous about this, and would rather do it virtually.

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
23. My brother lives in JAX
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jun 2020

A beautiful modern city. I have somewhat felt the concern over COVID borders hyperbole, but yet I feel condensing 50K people inside a building won't end well for many.

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