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alp227

(32,015 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:18 AM Jun 2020

Statue of Jefferson Davis torn down on Monument Avenue [in Richmond]

Source: Richmond Times-Dispatch

The statue of Jefferson Davis on Monument Avenue in Richmond was torn down late Wednesday night.

The statue of the president of the Confederacy was toppled shortly before 11 p.m. and left on the ground at the intersection of Davis and Monument avenues.

Richmond police were quickly on the scene. A tow truck showed up around 11:30 p.m. to take the statue away.

The vandalism of the statue comes nearly two weeks into protests against police brutality against black Americans, sparked by the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

Read more: https://www.richmond.com/news/local/statue-of-jefferson-davis-torn-down-on-monument-avenue/article_64865aee-76bc-54e1-8e90-2fa749f8877b.html



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Statue of Jefferson Davis torn down on Monument Avenue [in Richmond] (Original Post) alp227 Jun 2020 OP
Oh well, this post-CW history is over. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2020 #1
good, bring them all down TeamPooka Jun 2020 #2
A Pleasant Bit Of News, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2020 #3
Civics classes must be very interesting these days. Baked Potato Jun 2020 #4
About time. moondust Jun 2020 #5
+1000! I once saw a full sized confederate flag on a truck in a nearby apartment complex parking lot Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #14
A couple of battery sawalls and Historic NY Jun 2020 #6
"A little help here?" Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #7
Is that blood coming out his ear? Another elder member of Antifa? rgbecker Jun 2020 #12
K&R! Omaha Steve Jun 2020 #8
Damn, that's a beautiful sight. Politicub Jun 2020 #9
Good! Nitram Jun 2020 #10
Dressed up as women as he is towed away....? rgbecker Jun 2020 #11
No Loss rkleinberger Jun 2020 #13

OAITW r.2.0

(24,449 posts)
1. Oh well, this post-CW history is over.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:29 AM
Jun 2020

As an educated white person, I am glad that we are revisiting the sorry episode of a bunch of slave owners committing treason and we then put up monuments and named military bases after these traitors.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
5. About time.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:04 AM
Jun 2020

I've sometimes regretted that the U.S. didn't just ban confederate symbols after the Civil War similar to Germany banning Nazi symbols after WWII: get rid of them; don't let the symbols be used to keep an evil cause alive.

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But if essentially the same narrative of defeat played out in Nazi Germany in 1945 and the Confederate States of America in 1865, what happened to the symbols differed greatly.
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The conquering Allies banned their display in October 1945; the new Federal Republic of Germany enshrined that ban in German law in 1949.
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Not so the Confederate battle flag, which was rehabilitated by the Ku Klux Klan in the early 20th century. It found its way into cemeteries, flag stands and even as part of some official state flags. The flag itself would fly over statehouses in several former Confederate states.
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“They’re symbols of a way of life that is completely unacceptable,” she said. “I think with the fall of the Nazi regime, Germans realized the only way to again become a valid nation was to eliminate the symbols. Banning them was appropriate. Americans made a different choice with the symbols of the Confederacy.”
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How Germany dealt with its symbols of hate

Things might have turned out differently in the U.S. if the North had banned confederate symbols 150 years ago. Of course the confederate South was a larger land mass than Germany and a ban on symbols might have required a large occupying army across the South for a long time. Big commitment--maybe too big.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
14. +1000! I once saw a full sized confederate flag on a truck in a nearby apartment complex parking lot
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 01:05 AM
Jun 2020

This made absolutely no sense to me since this is in Northeastern New York. They even ruled to allow selling confederate items at the local county fair when there was a controversy. Why?? Who around here would want them?? This area is the site of Revolutionary War battlefields.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
6. A couple of battery sawalls and
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:19 AM
Jun 2020

one can practice their Civil War surgical skills. I'm told they work well on Trump southern wall.

rkleinberger

(155 posts)
13. No Loss
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jun 2020

It is time to expose the history of the United Daughters of the Confederacy based in Richmond. Their racist history needs to be examined. They are responsible for many of the Confederate statutes, and generally were seen as a front for the KKK. They also had a heavy hand in manipulating school history books to make the Confederacy look good. They have a very racist history that needs to be discussed in public. Why do they have a building in Richmond still operating? Not enough media attention to is being done to them. Here is a very good article about them couple years ago. It is worth the read. Time to out this group for the racists they are and the violent racism that they represent and have fostered.

https://www.salon.com/2018/10/06/7-things-the-united-daughters-of-the-confederacy-might-not-want-you-to-know-about-them_partner/

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