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(34,195 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:08 AM Jun 2020

Dow slides 1,000 points on fears of coronavirus resurgence, more economic pain

Source: Washington Post

U.S. markets posted heavy losses Thursday as the Federal Reserve’s gloomy economic outlook, coupled with fears of a second wave of coronavirus infections, rattled investors. The Dow Jones industrial average fell 1,000 points, or 3.7 percent, by late morning, while the Standard & Poor’s and Nasdaq composites also dropped sharply.

That optimism was slashed Wednesday after Fed Chair Jerome H. Powell made plain that a slow recovery was to come and that more aid would be needed from Congress and the central bank to lessen the pain, particularly as millions of Americans may never see their jobs return. The Fed plans to keep the benchmark U.S. interest rate at zero, most likely through 2022. But critics say that approach widens economic inequality and lifts Wall Street over Main Street.

Concerns about a second surge of infections have taken on new urgency since states eased restrictions on gatherings and commercial business. Hospitalizations rose sharply in several states after Memorial Day, and nearly 2 million cases have been reported in the U.S. “Fears of a second wave are beginning to cause anxiety in the stock market,” said Torsten Slok, chief economist at Deutsche Bank Securities. “Powell did what he could to be dovish but there is nothing the Fed can do about the risk of a second wave of the virus.”

Another 1.5 million workers filed for unemployment insurance for the first time last week as pandemic-era totals top 40 million.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/11/markets-today-fed-coronavirus/



Stocks flashed red around the world. In Europe, Britain’s FTSE 100 dropped 3.25 percent, and Germany’s DAX fell 3.5 percent. In Asia, Japan’s Nikkei 225 closed the day down 2.83 percent, and Hong Kong’s Hang Seng closed 2.27 percent in the red.
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progree

(10,893 posts)
1. More on unemployment claims. In particular continuing claims: 20.929 M vs. 20 M expected
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:18 AM
Jun 2020

Yahoo Finance, 6/11/20
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stock-market-news-live-june-11-2020-222011316.html

Meanwhile, the Labor Department’s weekly report showed another 1.542 million individuals filed new unemployment insurance claims for the week ended June 6, slightly below expectations, and coming down slightly from the prior week’s 1.897 million. The prior week’s new unemployment claims were revised up slightly to 1.897 million, from the 1.877 million previously reported. Continuing unemployment claims fell less than expected for the week ended May 30, ticking down to 20.929 million versus the 20 million expected. The prior week’s continuing claims totaled 21.268 million.


Also,

Market participants also eyed a rise in new coronavirus cases in key states including Arizona, Florida, North Carolina and Texas.

Shares of companies that have been among the most set to benefit from easing social distancing measures pointed to another session of steep declines. Carriers American Airlines, United Airlines and Delta dropped in early trading Thursday, pointing to a third straight day of losses. Cruise companies Carnival, Royal Caribbean and Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings, along with lodging firms Wynn and Hilton, also tracked toward a third consecutive down day.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,728 posts)
2. There will be a bigger dive as closing bell nears....
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:22 AM
Jun 2020

Usually happens when the Market starts way down. As the day wears on, so do fears as the news centers on the increase in Jobless claims.

progree

(10,893 posts)
3. Both initial claims and continuing claims fell slightly
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jun 2020
As the day wears on, so do fears as the news centers on the increase in Jobless claims.


But continuing claims came in at 20.929 M vs. 20 M expected, in other words, nearly 5% higher than expected. So wasn't a cheerful report on the expectations vs. reality front.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
4. Wall St. blew off those phony unemployment numbers a week ago..........
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:33 AM
Jun 2020

Just keep your head buried in the sand...........

llmart

(15,533 posts)
5. Wait a minute...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jun 2020

This can't be true. I've been seeing ads for Trump saying he's bringing back the great economy he invented when he first took office. Are those ads lying to us? I'm shocked!

He'll be writing a letter to the news outlets telling them to stop reporting the truth like he did about his poll numbers sinking.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
7. I was wondering this morning why trump was starting a war with Inslee and Durkin...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jun 2020

...distract, distract, distract. That stock market drop has to be a kick in his belly.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
8. it will be another excuse for the Fed to throw another 6 to 8 trillion into stocks & junk bonds
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jun 2020

while we the people die on the vine.

Warpy

(111,162 posts)
11. Oh, bosh. I think institutional investors have been reading things
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:10 PM
Jun 2020

like sales figures, consumer confidence numbers, shipping stats, and manufacturing output. They're all down because the demand side is collapsing quickly. People with jobs have largely been without income for two months and that one time payout didn't do much in terms of paying bills and keeping them fed, so they're going to be playing catch-up on car payments, utilities, credit card payments, and everything else working people are saddled with. That means sales of everything besides staple foods is going to suck. And those are the people who got called back to work. A lot of people might never be called back to work.

Anybody who thought the rally after the grab-a-thon of money Congress intended to use to help Main Street would last is crazy.

Ever since this gang of idiots took office, the graph on the portfolio I inherited has been a wide sawtooth pattern, and that kind of volatility is never good news.

progree

(10,893 posts)
14. Dow down 1411 (128p ET) as FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) morphs into plain old fear
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jun 2020
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-should-be-worried-about-another-stock-market-meltdown-162158918.html
Trump should be worried about another stock market meltdown, Brian Sozzi, Editor-at-Large, Yahoo Finance, 6/11/20

(Fed chief Jerome) Powell said “millions” of people will not return to work for some time because of the aftershocks to businesses from the COVID-19 pandemic. The Fed chief suggested the lack of jobs would be rooted in the reality that companies were unable to survive the pandemic or the role no longer exists in the new world order.

By extension, that would suggest a certain kind of structural unemployment that may continue to weigh on U.S. growth unless workers get re-trained for new jobs.

... “We believe perhaps 60% of the jobs lost because of the global coronavirus recession will be regained by the end of the year. But that remaining 40 is a lot of jobs that will still need to be regained over multiple years,” Oxford Economics chief U.S. economist Gregory Daco said on Yahoo Finance’s The First Trade.

... “I think most likely you will see a 10% correction from here,” BNY Mellon chief investment strategist Alicia told The First Trade. “I wouldn’t say we’re in a bubble. I will say this, and I might date myself a little bit. Last week was the first time in 20 years where I’ve felt like it was the late 1990s. It just had that feeling that you couldn’t lose. When you get that feeling you should be scared. You saw it when the companies filing for bankruptcy were rallying a crazy amount.” (and you expect just a 10% correction given that and the economy and that multi-trillion stimuluses can't go on forever? -Progree)

Yeehah

(4,568 posts)
16. If only there had been some kind of warning the virus could return!
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 07:19 PM
Jun 2020

Trump and the dimwit governors taking no action will keep the virus raging.

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
17. Closed 1,860 Down
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 06:57 AM
Jun 2020

The Russell was even worse at 7.2% down.
But, futures on the Dow were +600 in premarket trading.

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