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Eugene

(61,894 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:33 AM Jun 2020

Paul Whelan, ex-US marine, jailed in Russia on spying charges

Source: BBC

44 minutes ago

Ex-US marine Paul Whelan has been sentenced to 16 years of hard labour on spying charges in Russia.

He was arrested in a hotel room in Moscow 18 months ago with a USB flash drive which security officers say contained state secrets.

The Moscow City Court found him guilty of receiving classified information.

Whelan - who is also a citizen of the UK, Canada and Ireland - denounced the closed trial as a "sham" ahead of the verdict.

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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53049373




Paul Whelan denounced the closed trial as a "sham" ahead of the verdict (AFP)
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Paul Whelan, ex-US marine, jailed in Russia on spying charges (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2020 OP
Sounds like a fumbling, bumbling wanna be spy to me. GreenEyedLefty Jun 2020 #1
Is he one of the names that Trump handed over to the Russians in the Oval office meeting. usaf-vet Jun 2020 #2
He isn't an ex-Marine, he is a former Marine. gab13by13 Jun 2020 #3
If he was dishonorably discharged for "larceny," he's a DISGRACED Marine hlthe2b Jun 2020 #4
Maybe the Great Deal Maker could exchange Alaska for this guy. rickford66 Jun 2020 #5
:D C Moon Jun 2020 #8
Yep. This is Kabuki theatre poli-junkie Jun 2020 #11
Bingo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #13
Well, Eddie Gallagher gets lonely standing at trump's side. Whelan can keep him company. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #17
so, when are we going to go after the bigest russian asset at the wh? AllaN01Bear Jun 2020 #6
He lost me with "PAUL'S LIFE MATTERS". cyndensco Jun 2020 #7
Go read the wikipedia entry on this fella. Rainbow Droid Jun 2020 #9
Not to Worry, Our Glorious President will Intervene on His Behal--- Jersey Devlin Jun 2020 #10
October Surprise SayItLoud Jun 2020 #12
Exactly how many citizenships can one person have? Mazeltov Cocktail Jun 2020 #14
As many citizenships as one can obtain, I suppose. Progressive Jones Jun 2020 #15
I just learned that about the Irish citizenships... Mazeltov Cocktail Jun 2020 #18
Prudent thinking. Since finding out about Progressive Jones Jun 2020 #20
Having citizenship in two countries is not unheard of and quite common. Xolodno Jun 2020 #16
This guy has 4, or am I missing something. Mazeltov Cocktail Jun 2020 #19

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
1. Sounds like a fumbling, bumbling wanna be spy to me.
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 07:19 AM
Jun 2020

This guy is a Trumper and it looks to me like he was looking for a position in the administration. Well he sure fits the mold:

He's touted as an "ex Marine," as if his service was meritorious. He was given a bad conduct discharge for larceny in Iraq.

He lied under oath about his education, claiming to have earned a bachelor's degree and MBA from the University of Michigan.

Also he claim he was a police officer but at least one department he claimed to work for has no record of his employment.

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
2. Is he one of the names that Trump handed over to the Russians in the Oval office meeting.
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 07:33 AM
Jun 2020

I would not put it past the traitor Trump.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
4. If he was dishonorably discharged for "larceny," he's a DISGRACED Marine
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 08:28 AM
Jun 2020

the rest is mere symantics.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
8. :D
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jun 2020

That's funny. But it just hit me, that you may be on to something: Trump will give something away to get this guy back. Another Trump/Putin setup.

Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
17. Well, Eddie Gallagher gets lonely standing at trump's side. Whelan can keep him company.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:36 AM
Jun 2020

trump makes a horrendous deal to get a Whelan back and then parades him out like a hero at his rallies.

cyndensco

(1,697 posts)
7. He lost me with "PAUL'S LIFE MATTERS".
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 09:35 AM
Jun 2020

I put that in the same category as "All" and "Blue" Lives Matter. It is making a mockery of a movement.

Mazeltov Cocktail

(569 posts)
14. Exactly how many citizenships can one person have?
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 07:14 PM
Jun 2020

Does he pay taxes in all those countries?

Which country was he spying for?

Will any of those countries bargain for his release?

So many questions, such a little man...

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
15. As many citizenships as one can obtain, I suppose.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:04 AM
Jun 2020

I'm an American. Born in Chicago. I recently found out I can
have Irish citizenship, as well, through family connections.
One parent and one grandparent came from Ireland.
Both became US citizens. I never really had any interest in Irish citizenship.
I never really thought about it. A friend who had taken a trip there told me about it last November.

As for taxes, that's probably based on any income earned and/or property owned in a particular country.

Mazeltov Cocktail

(569 posts)
18. I just learned that about the Irish citizenships...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:08 PM
Jun 2020

My husband's grandparents, maternal and paternal are from Ireland. We're seriously considering this as an option should Trump be reelected.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
20. Prudent thinking. Since finding out about
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jun 2020

my ability to get Irish citizenship, that has crossed my mind.
Trump, or any other craziness could cause me to want to leave here.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
16. Having citizenship in two countries is not unheard of and quite common.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:50 AM
Jun 2020

...Three, that raises some eyebrows, but not unheard of and in fact, often the case for some high ranking business or government officials...but that also puts you on a list to be watched like hawk. The CIA has botched some jobs, most notably Robert Levinson in Iran. Some over eager CIA analysts gave a green light to a mission without informing their superiors. Basically sending him to his death just so they could play office politics if they were successful.

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