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Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:02 AM

Man shot during demonstration over conquistador statue in New Mexico

Source: NBC

A man was shot Monday evening at a demonstration where protesters planned to topple a conquistador's statue in Albuquerque, New Mexico, authorities said.

It wasn't immediately clear who had been shot. Albuquerque police said in a statement that one person had been taken to a hospital in critical condition but that there were no other injuries.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-shot-during-demonstration-over-conquistador-statue-new-mexico-n1231140



Reports on Twitter that there was a right-wing armed militia group there "protecting" the statues and one of them shot a protester.

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Reply Man shot during demonstration over conquistador statue in New Mexico (Original post)
pamela Jun 2020 OP
EarnestPutz Jun 2020 #1
Post removed Jun 2020 #2
EarnestPutz Jun 2020 #3
PSPS Jun 2020 #4
ucrdem Jun 2020 #5
yaesu Jun 2020 #6
sarisataka Jun 2020 #14
yaesu Jun 2020 #15
sarisataka Jun 2020 #16
duhneece Jun 2020 #19
Polybius Jun 2020 #21
duhneece Jun 2020 #22
yaesu Jun 2020 #24
duhneece Jun 2020 #18
raccoon Jun 2020 #7
Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #8
FailureToCommunicate Jun 2020 #9
Judi Lynn Jun 2020 #10
FailureToCommunicate Jun 2020 #11
EX500rider Jun 2020 #12
Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #20
Mosby Jun 2020 #13
Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #17
Steelrolled Jun 2020 #23

Response to pamela (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:07 AM

1. If there was a right-wing armed militia group there, I'm sure that they were...

....just trying to protect our American heritage and the importance of remembering Conquistadors.

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Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:49 AM

3. Whoops. My bad.

Last edited Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:51 AM - Edit history (1)

I wrote the first line of this response after only reading the first line of your response. Then I looked up and saw the rest of your response, which wasn't funny but unkind. Why would you post something like this? Chill. Or at least take a moment to consider the important place that conquistadors hold in our history and recognize satire without an emoji to help you out.

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Response to pamela (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:55 AM

4. All of this is flourishing in the atmosphere inspired by trump

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Response to PSPS (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:56 AM

5. The social fabric is unraveling fast.

I hope we make it to November 3 without something worse than we've already seen

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Response to pamela (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:10 AM

6. video of the actual shooting tweeted by a reporter, looks like protesters chased the

nmcg guy for some reason, attacked him and he drew his pistol.


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Response to yaesu (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:47 PM

14. He will go free

If the video is authentic.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:56 PM

15. it looks authentic but nowdays who know, the account seems legit. He may claim self defense

and will probably escape the more serious charges, New Mexico is the type of stand your ground state where you do not have a duty to retreat. You don't have to retreat, but if you don't, the DA may decide to prosecute, and the judge/jury may decide to convict. He tried to retreat so it may protect him.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:16 PM

16. I am leery of Twitter as a source

Having seen many get burned.

The man in the video did retreat from the crowd after an initial assault. He was followed a assaulted by multiple people.

He could be charged if he initiated something in the crowd but the shooting is going to be self defense.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:53 PM

19. But NM also has law that you can't claim self defense if you were violent first.

Video shows shooter pushed a woman to the ground before the shooting

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Response to duhneece (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:55 PM

21. It's hard to see

But it looks like he or she chased and touched him first.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #21)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:23 PM

22. The video I saw he comes up behind her

And pulls her violently to the ground.

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Response to duhneece (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 02:14 AM

24. yeah, i figured from the protesters response that he pulled something iike that, and it seems

that the protesters were calling for the cops to stop the guy.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:51 PM

18. Crap... I haven't learned to post videos

But I have a video of the shooter pulling/pushing a woman protester to the ground prior to the protesters chasing him and one can hear them say, “Get his license plate number.”

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Response to pamela (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:37 AM

7. Lock his ass up! Lock him up! NT

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Response to pamela (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:11 AM

8. Police detain armed militia members after man is shot at Albuquerque protest

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/16/albuquerque-militia-shooting-protest/


Albuquerque police detain members of the New Mexico Civil Guard, an armed civilian group, following the shooting of a man during a protest over a statue of Spanish conquerer Juan de Oñate on Monday in Albuquerque. (Adolphe Pierre-Louis/AP)

By Katie Shepherd
June 16, 2020 at 5:42 a.m. EDT

Protesters in Albuquerque wrapped a chain around the neck of a bronze statue and began tugging, chanting, “Tear it down,” shortly before sunset on Monday. Their efforts to pull down a monument of Spanish conquistador Juan de Oñate suddenly stopped as four shots rang out.

Most people instinctively turned toward the noise, videos from the scene show. A few screamed. Just yards away, a group of militia men sporting militarylike garb and carrying semiautomatic rifles formed a protective circle around the gunman.

The gunshots, which left one man in critical but stable condition, have set off a cascade of public outcry denouncing the unregulated militia’s presence and the shooting, although police have yet to announce an arrest or describe exactly what happened. The victim is also unidentified.

“The heavily armed individuals who flaunted themselves at the protest, calling themselves a ‘civil guard,’ were there for one reason: To menace protesters, to present an unsanctioned show of unregulated force,” New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) said in a statement. “To menace the people of New Mexico with weaponry — with an implicit threat of violence — is on its face unacceptable; that violence did indeed occur is unspeakable.”

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:57 AM

9. Wow! THAT'S a photo of strange juxtaposition.

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:13 AM

10. Armed rightwingers arresting armed rightwingers? True!!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:19 PM

11. I was thinking real law enforcement arresting Walmart camo wannabes.

Also, I don't believe the Albuquque police are particularly right wing, at least the ones I've heard about.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:37 PM

12. How do you know what "wing" the Albuquerque SWAT team is? nt

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:17 PM

20. Because all police are knuckle-dragging right-wing monsters, of course. N/T

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:42 PM

13. What is that foil thing around the guys neck?

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Response to Mosby (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:33 PM

17. Not sure, maybe it was in his pants before?



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Response to pamela (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:53 PM

23. People coming out looking for a fight. Tribalism pure and simple.

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