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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:00 PM Jun 2020

Two Police Unions Spread False Rumor That Shake Shack Workers Intentionally Poisoned Three NYPD Cops

Source: BuzzFeed News

After three New York City police officers became ill Monday night after they drank milkshakes purchased at a Shake Shack, two police unions claimed, without evidence, that the cops were "intentionally poisoned" by restaurant workers.

The NYPD said early Tuesday morning that it had investigated the incident and determined there was no criminal wrongdoing by the employees. Investigators believe the substance in their drinks was a cleaning solution that had not been fully cleared out of the milkshake machine, according to CNN.

"After a thorough investigation by the NYPD’s Manhattan South investigators, it has been determined that there was no criminality by shake shack’s employees," NYPD Chief of Detectives Rodney Harrison tweeted.

Following news that the officers had fallen sick, the Detectives' Endowment Association (DEA), a union for NYPD detectives, on Monday night tweeted an "urgent safety message" about the alleged incident, saying "three of our brothers in blue were intentionally poisoned by one or more workers" at a Shake Shack located in lower Manhattan.



Read more: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/police-unions-shake-shack-milkshake-nypd

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Two Police Unions Spread False Rumor That Shake Shack Workers Intentionally Poisoned Three NYPD Cops (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jun 2020 OP
Maybe they just ate too many donuts...big tummy aches Dream Girl Jun 2020 #1
Unions are unions, but police & prison guard unions are a whole 'nother thing. There's a pattern. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2020 #2
And they are probably the only two unions who get support from republicans... not_the_one Jun 2020 #32
Where would we be without buzzfeed? Steelrolled Jun 2020 #3
The Shake Shack should avebury Jun 2020 #4
+1 Mosby Jun 2020 #5
I sure wouldn't want a shake with cleaning solution in it, even if it wasn't intentional. LisaL Jun 2020 #22
Of course not, but the investigation determined it was unintentional. yardwork Jun 2020 #29
I agree rockfordfile Jun 2020 #23
I figured that BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #6
Surprising they had to go to the hospital. Steelrolled Jun 2020 #8
I'd like to see the log-in register at the ER. I doubt there's a single cop on it. BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #9
Well it was reported by Buzzfeed, if that gives you more confidence. Steelrolled Jun 2020 #12
IMHO BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #10
wouldn't it take a significant amount of "cleaner" stopdiggin Jun 2020 #18
I did a quick search BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #20
Our local municipal authority just did a chlorine add DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #30
The police unions statements seem like they believe they are an occupying force MarcA Jun 2020 #7
I'm surprised they didn't shoot 7 citizens for each "officer" who "got sick". (Obscure Fascist BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #21
There is no enemy/crime so they just create them as needed. The NYPD proves protesters right, again. TheFourthMind Jun 2020 #11
Nice if it provokes a slander suit Warpy Jun 2020 #13
Police unions are a big part of the problem. lark Jun 2020 #14
The Police Unions Must Be Broken, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2020 #15
It seems like most contract negotiations end up in binding arbitration DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #31
Josh Marshall of TPM makes some powerful points PJMcK Jun 2020 #16
There was also a fake photo on Twitter of a woman cop who was "mutilated" with a "B" carved... George II Jun 2020 #17
So, someone unearthed that 2008 photo... skypilot Jun 2020 #25
Yes, everybody recognized it right away (but I didn't, I'm slow!) and pointed out that... George II Jun 2020 #26
I remember that story from 2008. skypilot Jun 2020 #27
It's been a long time, but when I worked in fast food... WestLosAngelesGal Jun 2020 #19
If the Shake Shack workers claimed there were in fear for their lives, Aristus Jun 2020 #24
Machines like that ususally have two cleaning solutions, a disinfecting agent, usually bleach, pecosbob Jun 2020 #28
 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
32. And they are probably the only two unions who get support from republicans...
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 12:03 AM
Jun 2020

because they do the dirty work the republicans want done, to the people they want it done to.

The rest of the worker unions who are working for fair treatment and decent wages, not so much.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
4. The Shake Shack should
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jun 2020

sue the police unions. The false allegations could have resulted in a physical attack on the business and/or destroyed their business by costing them customers.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
29. Of course not, but the investigation determined it was unintentional.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:19 PM
Jun 2020

The unions stated that the officers were poisoned intentionally.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
6. I figured that
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jun 2020

expecting it was probably some type of sanitizing mixture that had been run through the machines.




TEXT

Chief Rodney Harrison

@NYPDDetectives

After a thorough investigation by the NYPD’s Manhattan South investigators, it has been determined that there was no criminality by shake shack’s employees.

4:02 AM - Jun 16, 2020
 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
8. Surprising they had to go to the hospital.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe it was just nausea from the taste. And once you think you've eaten bad food, your mind can take over.

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
18. wouldn't it take a significant amount of "cleaner"
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:39 PM
Jun 2020

left over in a machine to to render the next batch of shakes an actual danger (or irritant for that matter)?

I'm unfamiliar with the actual volumes involved, but ....
Was anybody stomach pumped or admitted?

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
20. I did a quick search
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jun 2020

and there are apparently commonly-sold cleaning products for restaurant use for these types of dispenser machines (frozen/dairy) - https://www.webstaurantstore.com/1003/soft-serve-machine-cleaner-and-sanitizer.html

The linked example shows multiple products from various companies that are all basically packets of some chlorine-containing powder that gets mixed with a certain about of water and is then run through the machine (am guessing using the machine's own dispense mechanism/cycle). Then the machine would get flushed with fresh water in the same manner. So it could have been the machine wasn't flushed enough or there was some residue on the exterior of a tube/spout that dispenses the frozen product. The exterior of those spouts often comes in contact with the frozen slushy/ice cream/milkshake as it goes into a cup or cone.

Any type of dispenser has to be cleaned - if anything due to clogging (coffee/k-cup machines are the same way) and this case when there is dairy, no one wants some bacteria like listeria or salmonella growing in the machine.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
30. Our local municipal authority just did a chlorine add
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:31 PM
Jun 2020

to our drinking water. Water smells like chlorine at the moment, but you can't taste it and it's not making anyone sick afaik.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
7. The police unions statements seem like they believe they are an occupying force
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:27 PM
Jun 2020

and civilians are enemy combatants. The would be ruler/oligarchs want it that way
to keep the rest of us in our place physically and financially.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
21. I'm surprised they didn't shoot 7 citizens for each "officer" who "got sick". (Obscure Fascist
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jun 2020

Reference )

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
13. Nice if it provokes a slander suit
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jun 2020

but it probably won't, not in NYC.

I thought from the beginning it sounded like detergent, not any sort of poisonous compound.

lark

(23,097 posts)
14. Police unions are a big part of the problem.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:01 PM
Jun 2020

I generally support unions, but these have turned toxic in way too many cases, serving to protect racist police and promote white nationalism and harm minorities.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
15. The Police Unions Must Be Broken, Ma'am
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:01 PM
Jun 2020

They are a malign influence on policing, and dug in like so many ticks. Cities ought to start using every trick corporate employers use to thwart labor organizers on police unions, and flat refuse to negotiate contracts with any police union.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
16. Josh Marshall of TPM makes some powerful points
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jun 2020

Unfortunately, his column is behind their paywall but here are two key paragraphs:

I’ve mentioned a few times in recent weeks – in the Editors’ Blog and the Podcast – how my own perceptions of the NYPD have been heavily influenced by the NYPD’s police unions. If you listen to the statements of the city’s police union leadership, the impression is of an organization that is far-right in its political sensibilities, contemptuous of civilian political authority and generally sees the residents of the city and their elected officials as answering to the NYPD rather than the other way around. In this case, this whole thing was apparently bogus but there’s no apology from the people making the accusations and I suspect there never will be.

The NYPD is a fairly diverse force. 47% of the force is non-white. At the patrol officers level it’s 53% non-white. It gets much less diverse higher up the chain. But relative to other forces and compared to the past. The leadership of the unions, on the other hand, appears to be universally white and Irish and with political views from the 1950s. Recently the head of the Sergeants Union declared he was “going to war” with the mayor and during the recent protests told members of his union they were fighting a war against New York City, a battle between good and evil in which they answered to a higher power than the city government. “You work for a higher authority. It’s good against evil and good always wins.”

(snip)

I don’t know just what the story is or the sociology behind the relationship between the force at large and the unions that represents it collectively. But they are at a minimum tightly connected and the leadership relies on the support of the rank and file. There’s something basically wrong with the culture, something that makes the trust of the community – even from fairly privileged members of the community – hard to sustain.


The rest of the column is here:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/assassination-hoax-brings-milk-shakes-to-the-yard

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. There was also a fake photo on Twitter of a woman cop who was "mutilated" with a "B" carved...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:16 PM
Jun 2020

...(backward) in her cheek, representing "bad cop". It presumably happened at that Shake Shack.

Turns out it was a photo from 2008 used to claim (Barack) Obama supporters did it. That was faked, too.

skypilot

(8,853 posts)
25. So, someone unearthed that 2008 photo...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:51 PM
Jun 2020

...and tried to repurpose it to claim that a female cop had been attacked?

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. Yes, everybody recognized it right away (but I didn't, I'm slow!) and pointed out that...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jun 2020

...she did it herself, looking at a mirror. That's why the "B" was backward.

skypilot

(8,853 posts)
27. I remember that story from 2008.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jun 2020

Just surprised that someone was dumb enough to try this latest hoax using a photo from another hoax.

WestLosAngelesGal

(268 posts)
19. It's been a long time, but when I worked in fast food...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jun 2020

...the design of the milkshake machines made them hard to clean. A milkshake is made by pouring in pre-made mix into a machine that freezes it to a certain consistency. And because they were hard to clean, we... hardly ever did it. No hate, we were teens. Anyway, the vile stuff that you clean the machine with has to run through it and you run rinse water through it a few times, too. And try not to sniff the machine because even after cleaning, there is a faint odor of spoiled milk. After refilling the machine, and it gets frozen to the right consistency, we would throw away the first 5 milkshakes or so because they tasted like the cleaning fluid. If you want to stay healthy, do not get a milkshake in a restaurant unless you can see them scooping ice cream and milk into a machine that mixes up shakes one by one in a big metal cup. Otherwise, you are drinking little bits of sanitizer.

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
24. If the Shake Shack workers claimed there were in fear for their lives,
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jun 2020

would that have been okay with the police?

Just asking...


pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
28. Machines like that ususally have two cleaning solutions, a disinfecting agent, usually bleach,
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:15 PM
Jun 2020

which must be thoroughly removed by cleaning and a sanitizer, usually mild ammonia, which is left on the surface to dry. The bleach can make you sick, the ammonia will not. Every ice machine requires this cleaning process.

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