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[Judi Lynn]

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[turbinetree]

1. JFC..............if your that fucking paranoid ....resign..............you shouldn't have gun.......

[Moostache]

8. Exactly...these kind of cops should NOT be on patrol.

Maybe she was overly stressed, but THAT is the point. Why would a community WANT a person in that emotional state charged with making life and death decisions? There is a prime example of police in need of defunding...

[Jirel]

19. Exactly. Not fit to be an unarmed parking lot security guard.

This kind of entitled fragility doesn't belong in any position of power, police, security, managerial, or other. The whining about people not thanking police... JFC. Karen, you are not entitled to be thanked. You are not entitled to be trusted. You are not entitled to be appreciated or liked.

Quit. Now.

[Hotler]

2. That's proof that she is too emotionally fragile to be a cop. Remove her from duty. nt

mmm

[csziggy]

3. She didn't keep with the news - the NYPD cops were not "poisoned"

NYPD finds no wrongdoing by Shake Shack employees after officers got sick from milkshakes

By Laura Ly, Hollie Silverman and Joe Sutton, CNN

Updated 6:02 AM ET, Tue June 16, 2020

<SNIP>

The NYPD launched an investigation after the officers fell ill and determined early Tuesday morning that there was no criminality by employees, according to a tweet from NYPD Detective Chief Rodney Harrison.

Investigators believe a cleaning solution used to clean the milkshake machines wasn't fully cleared and may have gotten into the officers' drinks.

The officers bought the beverages at the restaurant chain's lower Manhattan location around 8:30 p.m., a spokeswoman for the department said.

All three officers were transported to a local hospital where they were treated, observed and released, according to the spokeswoman.

More: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/nypd-officers-sick-shake-shack-trnd/index.html

[Jirel]

20. She doesn't care.

Her cop paranoia and solidarity uber alles means it's real. That story is a whitewash. Or maybe it's not true THIS time but it will be next time. This is how these idiots "think." This is why they have to be removed, defunded, and replaced.

[Texin]

4. Crikey. She needs a reminder that Mickey D's is Rump's favorite food purveyor.

[Croney]

5. A Nerak! She's a reverse Karen.

She's also playing the gender card. She wants to be treated professionally, but she'll play the wronged ingenue, knowing full well that a male cop couldn't get away with the quivering lip and the woe-is-me.

[Thomas Hurt]

9. A Nerak, I like that better than Karen...

Nervous
Excitable
Raging
A hole
Klanswoman/man

[Wawannabe]

17. Excuse me?

The gender card?
Woe-is-me??????

Oh, no you did not! But you did....

Dare you to say a black person is playing the race card!

You need to check yourself!

[Croney]

29. Not sure what you mean. She posted an unprofessional video of herself whining.

And pouting and whimpering over a McDonald's sandwich. If you think a man would do that, well you might be right. But I've been-there-done-that in my younger days--sweet-talked myself out of a ticket by falling back on the stereotype. Not saying it was right, just saying it happened.

I called her a reverse Karen because she sounds a lot like those other white women who have earned themselves the nickname.

But I get your drift. It's jarring to see the words "gender card" used. But I think it applies. You have a right to disagree.

[Crowman2009]

6. How about making your own damn sandwich?

If she's so worried about fast food being poisoned.

[Steelrolled]

15. That's what I would do

Ordering food with a police uniform on seems to be asking for trouble. We humans love our stereotypes.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

27. Lol, "asking for trouble"?

Free coffee and rolls are "trouble". Turn off Fox News.

[Steelrolled]

37. Actually I don't watch any cable news

I have a general rule to do nothing to annoy people making me food

[FailureToCommunicate]

7. I got news for you officer, an Egg McMuffin isn't that great for you...

on the best of days, even without the side of paranoia.

[Tommymac]

10. Last two times I ate one I got the squirts.

Never again.

[Crowman2009]

46. If I want a sausage biscuit that bad, I'd make them myself.

And I plan ahead by making a bunch of biscuits during the weekend. That way I only have to break out the frying pan & toaster oven for my daily sandwiches. Only waiting I do is at the grocery store once a week.

[whopis01]

11. Many police start looking at everyone as a criminal

They think everyone is up to something nefarious.

[jb5150]

12. It's not like they need to put poison in an egg mcmuffin

… it will kill you anyway.

[TruckFump]

14. +1 EOM

[grumpyduck]

13. And she carries a GUN?????

[chowder66]

16. I am more worried about the lack of sleep she has had

She needs a psych break, counseling and some rest. No one can know what she has seen or how long she has been going without sleep or what is happening in her personal life. I really don't think it's something to jump on.

She's a human being and maybe she is overreacting but I'm willing to go towards compassion instead of judgement.

[Jirel]

22. Oh, PUHLEEEZE!

When you take certain jobs, there is no excuse for this way of thinking. This is a super-entitled, whiny kkkop showing off her worst personality traits. Assuming she is "tired," all that means is it's letting her innermost thoughts and personality shine through, in its repugnant glory. It shows her utter untrustworthiness and unfitness for the job, from day one.

You don't pat her on the head and offer her a break. You boot her unstable, entitled ass out the door and tell her to get a job at Walmart.

[chowder66]

23. She's been in her job for 15 years. And no one is "patting her on the head".

The fact that you are telling me I'm patting her on the head AFTER I said she needs counseling, a psych break and rest...tells me you aren't listening. You're raging.

I'm going by a snippet in time as you are. I'm not filling my head with assumptions. I'm going off of what is presented.

[Jirel]

41. 15 years too long.

That is not the attitude of just a tired person. That is the attitude of a person who wants to feel the protection of carrying a gun and wearing a uniform. Who wants to be adored and have their ego stroked. This same person melting down because she isn't getting her sandwich right now has a gun, a badge, and the power to act on her suspicion of the McDonald's worker - who is also tired, and dealing all day with Karens like her.

You are throwing out peaceful, false platitudes while a mentally unbalanced cop is actually accusing a fast food worker of poisoning her with no rational basis. This is not "raging" - this is understanding the clear and present danger to others that this person presents. You can be concerned all you want for the tired, burned out person who is NOT wearing a gun, badge, and uniform, who can turn around in a split second and arrest the McDonald's worker, or pull the gun on someone because she is having such a "hard day" that waiting a minute for a McDonald's sandwich is worth a meltdown and fit of paranoia.

There is no reason to speculate on excuses. Get her the hell off the streets and out of the police force. Even if your pure speculation in her favor is correct, SHE is responsible to understand that she is endangering others, and give it up. She doesn't, she hasn't, and I have no sympathy for a cop in that position.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

42. Amen.

"This same person melting down because she isn't getting her sandwich right now has a gun, a badge, and the power to act on her suspicion of the McDonald's worker - who is also tired"

Perfectly stated.

[chowder66]

47. I originally posted she needs a psych break, counseling and rest.

That would get her off the street.

And yes, that may not be enough and she may need to change careers. Which I've also posted.
I don't know how old the video is. I don't know if she is seeking help. I don't know anything else about her, nor do you.

I feel that you want me to make assumptions about who she is. I don't roll that way. She could be exactly as you say but what does it say about me if I assume such things?

Quick to judge? Unable or unwilling to empathize based on stereotypes, preconceived ideas, bigotry? Who else do I make assumptions about? Am I always right? Am I wrong and if so what harm comes from my quick judgements?

It's easy to bag on the likes of Trump, he represents himself all day long. I find it much harder when it's a snippet in time and in this case someone who is clearly in need of help.

There is more than way to look at each other. Whatever she believes or whatever she does I don't know anything about it outside of this 2 minutes of her entire life on earth. If she was laughing and competent, not mentioning lack of sleep then I may have more to say about it from the outset. I'm discussing initial impressions that she is not well and needs help. Why do I think she is not well? Because of her statements, paranoia about the food which reflects poorly on the employees who were obviously helping her and because of the high emotion.

I'm leaving out any preconceived judgement about her character because I don't have any actual context of her life. Nor should I really. If she posts on social media and turns out to be a horrible person I still feel she needs help.
You can call it a false platitude but it's my opinion and if it really is a platitude as you say, why even bother engaging with me?

[ForgoTheConsequence]

28. The minimum wage McDonalds employees are "human beings" too.

But she had no problem jumping on them which could cost them their jobs. The employees don't have a collective bargaining agreement to protect them when they're falsely accused by a cop.

[chowder66]

31. Is there anywhere in my post that says the employees are not human?

If she is basing her fear of being poisoned from a news story that was later debunked then she needs to limit her social media time as well. Hell we all could do with that.

But on the face of it, her video looks like a cry for help whether she realizes it or not. She seems to be breaking down in front of her camera and admits she hasn't slept. We have no idea about anything else. Of course anyone can assume the worst... I just refuse to chomp at the bit. I don't hear her using racist language, I don't hear her supporting Trump. None of that is evident so I refuse to jump to conclusions beyond what is presented and at best it looks like she needs to take time off and seek counseling which police departments offer and should offer her.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

34. Again, no empathy for the workers.

Interesting take...

[chowder66]

35. Well I can turn that right around on you and say you have no empathy for women.

But that is NOT what I'm about. No one else in the thread is talking about the employees either.
The employees are not at fault for anything here and it's plain as day that this woman is in need of help.

If you want me to talk about the employees then fine you can ask me my opinion. But they are not in the video, they haven't done anything wrong (hence the reason I'm not talking about them). This is about this woman who posted her video who happens to be a cop. She needs to be taken off the streets until she gets counseling and is fit to be back on the job.

I did mention that if she is referring to the recent news story about the cops getting poisoned and was later debunked then she needs to limit her time on social media but this is far beyond social media. She needs help and if help isn't enough then she may need to find a new career.

You are making assumptions about a fellow DU member because I didn't address your specific area of concern. Nice work there.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

40. You have no idea if the fast food workers are women or not.

So that argument falls on its face.

I see a civil servant in uniform falsely accusing minimum wage workers because of the privilege they assume comes with that uniform, you see a victim. I see a middle-class white person crying because their sandwich took too long to get to them, you see a victim. I feel for the mom working two or three jobs making that sandwich and getting yelled at by needy and privileged customers all day, you feel for the person sitting in their a/c ordering from their iphone app. Worlds of difference.

[chowder66]

43. I see a person in distress. You used the word victim, I didn't.

I was making a point (a weak one admittedly, but if you used discernment you would have understood where I was going). I should have said female cops and maybe then you would have gotten the point.

How could you possibly know if she is middle-class? She could be upper middle-class, working class, etc. You do not know her circumstances. She could be the best person to ever be an officer, a regular everyday officer or the worst officer. We don't know.
It doesn't matter.

In the only context we have, it is 2 minutes video of a someone in distress. I see that first. After that there is concern because of her nature of work. Her paranoia over not being able to see her coffee or food made is patently evident and of course the employees don't deserve her suspicion but that is what makes it evident that she needs counseling or some sort of intervention.

Again, in case I'm not clear enough - IT is wrong for her to make assumptions about the employees. This is a given as other members posting about this in this thread are also not talking about the employees. We know that is wrong, I know that is wrong. I also know that it is wrong for her to post this on social media. I also know it's wrong to break down while on the job.

I also know it's wrong to throw compassion out of the window because of preconceived ideas of others.

[tanyev]

18. I don't understand the mindset of not only filming yourself having a batshit crazy episode,

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but after it's all over deciding, "Yeah, that needs to go on the internet. Nailed it!"

[Jirel]

21. No kidding!

Of course, nobody in the police will bat an eye.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

25. I know, right? 90 percent of freak out videos on YouTube are people filming themselves acting ...

... like idiots.

[marble falls]

24. She's part of the problem. We do not screen police well enough.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

26. Curious what time of the day this was.

Although McDonald’s serves breakfast all day now you often have to wait because the items aren’t ready to go.

If you order breakfast for lunch or dinner you will wait.

The only items I eat at McDonald’s are breakfast Items so I sometimes have to deal with that if I’m in a hurry out and about and have no other choice.

[Devil Child]

30. Pure cringe, turn in your badge officer as you can't handle the stress.

[GoldenMezzoDiva]

32. MYOB

Make Your Own Break-ie. And cut the whining already!

[Judi Lynn]

33. This is the twitter thread where they found the video. There's an evil post from Trump on it,

you might want to check.

The thread:

Link to tweet

and this is from the "President of the United States":

Greatest President Ever!
@realTrumpForce
·
Jun 15
IMAGINE THE U.S. WITHOUT THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA AND DEMS!

[rockfordfile]

36. I could careless about that thread

[Judi Lynn]

44. It was designated the source for the original article. Thanks for your comment. n/t

[RandiFan1290]

38. Kooky Karen Kop

wants to speak to the manager!

[LudwigPastorius]

39. OK, Officer Snowflake.

[SKKY]

45. Cops: "I don't know what's going on with people now days."

People: "I don't know what's going on with Cops now days."

I feel badly for her. She seems like a good enough person, but I just don't understand how a 16 year veteran of the police force gets set off my poor customer service at McDonald's.

[Judi Lynn]

48. The story about a cop who panicked in a drive-through at McDonalds has moved on, to G.D.

Cop has meltdown after her McMuffin order takes too long -- and she assumes it's being poisoned
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213607708

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