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brooklynite

(94,499 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 11:48 PM Jun 2020

Uncle Ben's follows Aunt Jemima in move to phase out racial stereotypes in logos

Source: WGCL-TV

CNN) - Uncle Ben's owner Mars is planning to change the rice maker's "brand identity."

In a statement on its website Wednesday, Mars wrote that "now is the right time to evolve the Uncle Ben's brand, including its visual brand identity, which we will do."

"We don't yet know what the exact changes and timing will be, but we are evaluating all possibilities," Mars added.

Earlier on Wednesday, Quaker Oats announced it's retiring the 130-year-old Aunt Jemima brand and logo. "As we work to make progress toward racial equality through several initiatives, we also must take a hard look at our portfolio of brands and ensure they reflect our values and meet our consumers' expectations," the Pepsi-owned company said in a statement.

The moves are an acknowledgment of the brands' origins in racist stereotypes, a consideration brought to the forefront during the nationwide reckoning on race following the death of George Floyd in police custody.

Read more: https://www.cbs46.com/uncle-bens-follows-aunt-jemima-in-move-to-phase-out-racial-stereotypes-in-logos/article_f0a1529c-daec-5992-b907-061e2aaca12d.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_cbs46



Some history:

How did his face get on the box? Did he start his own company? Well, no. That's not even his face on the box. The face on the box was a man from Chicago named Frank Brown. Frank Brown was a maitre d' at a Chicago restaurant that Gordon L. Harwell frequented in the 1940's. Harwell would later go on to start the Uncle Ben's Converted Rice Company. Anyway, Harwell wanted a face that would sell rice. Black characters were very popular on food products at the turn of the 20th Century because it gave the consumer the illusion that it was straight from "Uncle" and "Aunties" kitchen (good ol' black southern cooking). So, the next time you have yourself a bowl of Uncle Ben's rice just think about that little rice farmer from around Houston that some folks called "Uncle Ben."

https://www.morphologicalconfetti.com/2006/02/frank-brown-aka-uncle-ben.html
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Uncle Ben's follows Aunt Jemima in move to phase out racial stereotypes in logos (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2020 OP
Colgate did this with toothpaste back in 1989 Kablooie Jun 2020 #1
I've been doing household shopping since 1962. marybourg Jun 2020 #4
According to wiki its sold largely in Asia and Colgate bought the company that makes it in 85. cstanleytech Jun 2020 #7
That makes more sense. marybourg Jun 2020 #9
I have a tube of it I bought in Hong Kong in 1986 Kablooie Jun 2020 #13
Negro imagery is still common in food products in Latin America as well. sandensea Jun 2020 #26
I saw that in Taipei in 1976 Kali Jun 2020 #8
Ye gods. My mom made those awful "Mammy" coconut string dispensers Grokenstein Jun 2020 #12
If that product was any more racist, Trump would offer it a job John Fante Jun 2020 #2
Song for the Old Ones Warpy Jun 2020 #3
Garbage food I'd never eat kimbutgar Jun 2020 #5
What about the guy on the Cream of Wheat box? Sneederbunk Jun 2020 #6
ANY DAY NOW.... louzke9 Jun 2020 #14
what will happen to the Indian maid caricature on Land O' Lakes butter? RandiFan1290 Jun 2020 #15
Redskins cilla4progress Jun 2020 #10
Found this about Uncle Bens........... KS Toronado Jun 2020 #11
Negrita coffee should do the same IronLionZion Jun 2020 #16
Mrs Butterworth is next. nt Mosby Jun 2020 #17
I was thinking that Betty Crocker might go, too csziggy Jun 2020 #18
I'm sure that royalties were never paid to either woman FakeNoose Jun 2020 #21
SO I am - just like the Ben that became "Uncle Ben" never got a cent from the company csziggy Jun 2020 #23
They won't (get any scruples) but we still need to fight them FakeNoose Jun 2020 #25
Remember, rights for any group are rights for all csziggy Jun 2020 #27
Mrs Butterworth TheFarseer Jun 2020 #20
The bottle is a racist stereotype Mosby Jun 2020 #24
Some advice for Chef Boyardee Steelrolled Jun 2020 #19
Good!! healthnut7 Jun 2020 #22

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
1. Colgate did this with toothpaste back in 1989
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jun 2020

Though it's surprising that waited that long.
(Colgate owns Hawley&Hazel.)

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marybourg

(12,618 posts)
4. I've been doing household shopping since 1962.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 12:19 AM
Jun 2020

I’ve never seen that product in any regular grocery or drug store. I won’t swear that it wasn’t sold in 1950’s-1990’s tourist and novelty stores in Times Square.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
26. Negro imagery is still common in food products in Latin America as well.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jun 2020

One of the most egregious I've seen is Blancaflor ("Whiteflower" ) flour in Argentina. I believe they still make it.



Kali

(55,007 posts)
8. I saw that in Taipei in 1976
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 12:43 AM
Jun 2020

I think somebody in the family may have even bought some...I didn't. Not for ethical reasons, I was just always broke.

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
12. Ye gods. My mom made those awful "Mammy" coconut string dispensers
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 01:40 AM
Jun 2020

and this shit still manages to horrify me.

Warpy

(111,243 posts)
3. Song for the Old Ones
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 12:15 AM
Jun 2020

My Fathers sit on benches
their flesh counts every plank
the slats leave dents of darkness
deep in their withered flanks.

They nod like broken candles
all waxed and burnt profound
they say 'It's understanding
that makes the world go round.'

There in those pleated faces
I see the auction block
the chains and slavery's coffles
the whip and lash and stock.

My Fathers speak in voices
that shred my fact and sound
they say 'It's our submission
that makes the world go round.'

They used the finest cunning
their naked wits and wiles
the lowly Uncle Tomming
and Aunt Jemima's smiles.

They've laughed to shield their crying
then shuffled through their dreams
and stepped 'n' fetched a country
to write the blues with screams.

I understand their meaning
it could and did derive
from living on the edge of death
They kept my race alive.
Maya Angelou

I could never look at either of those products on the grocery shelf without thinking of this poem.

louzke9

(296 posts)
14. ANY DAY NOW....
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 05:41 AM
Jun 2020

Gone! As a very young child EONS ago. I was fascinated with the guy on the Cream of Wheat Box. I am still very fond of Cream of Wheat today. This man was used for marketing in advertisements since Cream of Wheat was introduced. Usually as a Chef on passenger trains. And what will happen to the Indian maid caricature on Land O' Lakes butter?

KS Toronado

(17,198 posts)
11. Found this about Uncle Bens...........
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 01:22 AM
Jun 2020

Uncle Ben does, indeed, appear to have been a real person. According to the official Uncle Ben’s, Inc. website (www.unclebens.com), he was “an African American rice farmer known to rice millers in and around Houston for consistently producing the highest quality rice.”

Doing a search on Gordon Harwell led me to above article, Ben's photo image was not his actual image, you know they always need a pretty or handsome model to step in.

If they had Ben's actual photo to use as their logo, keeping it would be honoring him, but alas this is not the case.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
18. I was thinking that Betty Crocker might go, too
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:29 AM
Jun 2020

My husband's grandfather (or great grandfather) worked for General Mills during the time period Betty Crocker was invented. Her name came from two different women that worked for the company - a Betty and a Miss Crocker.

FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
21. I'm sure that royalties were never paid to either woman
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jun 2020

Just sayin'

If there had been ONE employee with the name "Betty Crocker" they would have paid for the (copyright) to legally use her name. This way - more profits for the owners and board members to split.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
23. SO I am - just like the Ben that became "Uncle Ben" never got a cent from the company
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jun 2020

Actually I think we should fight for Black Lives now, then continue the fight for women's rights. Along the way we can try to improve workers' rights. Maybe one day the one percent will get some scruples.

FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
25. They won't (get any scruples) but we still need to fight them
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jun 2020

Yes I agree that BLM should get our attention right now.

Luckily Biden can be trusted to carry that cross when he's in the Oval Office. His first appointment should be Barack Obama as our new Secretary of State. I know the next Cabinet and administration will have a lot of minority appointments.


csziggy

(34,136 posts)
27. Remember, rights for any group are rights for all
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jun 2020

Except maybe rights for white males who want to want to keep all the rights for themselves, that is.

TheFarseer

(9,321 posts)
20. Mrs Butterworth
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jun 2020

Sounds like a kindly old British nanny that makes you pancakes. Not sure what it has to do with racism but maybe there’s a story I don’t know about.

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