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mac56

(17,566 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:32 PM Jun 2020

Minnesota Twins remove statue of former owner Calvin Griffith from outside Target Field

Source: Star Tribune (Minneapolis)

The Minnesota Twins removed the statue of former team owner Calvin Griffith from outside of Target Field.

"While we acknowledge the prominent role Calvin Griffith played in our history, we cannot remain silent and continue ignoring the racist comments he made in Waseca in 1978," the team said in a statement. "His disparaging words displayed a blatant intolerance and disregard for the Black community that are the antithesis of what the Minnesota Twins stand for and value."

The team made the decision after internal meetings following the May 25 killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis. Friday's announcement of the removal came on Juneteenth, the anniversary of the end of slavery in the United States in 1865.

In a speech to a Lions Club in Waseca in 1978, Griffith said Rod Carew was a "damn fool" for playing for as little as he pays him and the Twins decided to come to Minnesota "when I found out you only had 15,000 blacks here."

Read more: https://www.startribune.com/twins-remove-calvin-griffith-statue-citing-racist-statements/571365382/

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Minnesota Twins remove statue of former owner Calvin Griffith from outside Target Field (Original Post) mac56 Jun 2020 OP
Calvin Griffith was a dick in many respects. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #1
What Carrew had to say: marble falls Jun 2020 #2
"When they go low, we go high" Carew was/is a class act. RussellCattle Jun 2020 #3
A real class act. marble falls Jun 2020 #4
That is for sure - a great player and a class act. rurallib Jun 2020 #5
Your holding back is for the best of reasons. Good for you. RussellCattle Jun 2020 #10
Carew Could Have Hit A Curve all... ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #11
I actually met Carew before a game at the old Met rurallib Jun 2020 #12
Cool! ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #13
A better man than most mountain grammy Jun 2020 #7
Better'n me. I would have had to thumbed my nose. marble falls Jun 2020 #8
Rod was more than a class act. Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #6
Having grown up in Washington, D.C. and a nearby suburb during the 60s, generalbetrayus Jun 2020 #9
Ty Cobb still stands though Polybius Jun 2020 #14
As a baseball fan who hates Ty Cobb, even though he never played in my lifetime.... RussellCattle Jun 2020 #15
Reminds me of a story Jimbo S Jun 2020 #16
So when does the NFL force the Washington DC franchise olddad65 Jun 2020 #17
Or the CFL with the Edmonton Eskimos mac56 Jun 2020 #18

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
1. Calvin Griffith was a dick in many respects.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jun 2020

I'm surprised he wasn't called out for this particular aspect of his dickishness years ago. (Actually, I'm not.) I didn't know they had a statue of him at the ballpark, but they shouldn't have, and it's good that it's gone.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
2. What Carrew had to say:
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jun 2020

Carew, who said he would never sign another contract with the Twins after Griffith remarks, said in a statement released by the team: "I understand and respect the Minnesota Twins decision to remove the Calvin Griffith statue outside Target Field. While I've always supported the Twins decision to honor Calvin with a statue, I also remember how inappropriate and hurtful his comments were on that fateful day in Waseca. The Twins did what they felt they needed to do for the organization and for our community. While we cannot change history, perhaps we can learn from it."

But Carew also said that he had long forgiven Griffith and that he doesn't consider him a racist.

"When he traded me prior to the 1979 season, Calvin told me he wanted me to be paid what I was worth," Carew said. "Later that year the Angels made me the highest paid player in baseball. A racist wouldn't have done that.

"In 1991, the first person I called after I was told I had been elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame was Calvin.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
5. That is for sure - a great player and a class act.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jun 2020

I was going to make some snarky comment about Griffith, but after reading Carew's statement I will leave it be.

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
11. Carew Could Have Hit A Curve all...
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jun 2020

...with a cuestick!
His eye was that great.
He hit .328 for his career! 34th all time, but nearly his whole career in the 4 or 5 man rotation era. Plus, relievers so a lot of the other 33 might not have hit .329 or better like they did in earlier times.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
12. I actually met Carew before a game at the old Met
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 07:55 PM
Jun 2020

Mrs. Lib and I went up for a few vacation days. Must have been 1977. We were there for a 4th of July game. The field was in terrible shape as they had had a soccer game on that field the night before. Then it rained on the 4th.

IIRC, Carew was hitting @.410 at the time. He was having an unbelievable year.
So we went way early. Players were stretching and just hanging. Our seats were right behind their dugout in the second row. There were maybe a hundred in the stands. Attendance was terrible that year and that night.

We are sitting there and all of a sudden a player steps up on the short concrete wall by the dugout, steps up on the dugout and then steps into the box seats. He climbs over the seats in front of us and sits down next to my wife and starts up a conversation.

I was at a loss for words for a few minutes then finally unlocked my jaw. We chatted for @ 10 minutes. Then he said he had to get back on the field. He autographed my 'Rod Carew' model glove and then left.

Sadly the autograph faded, but the memory lives on.

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
13. Cool!
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 08:38 PM
Jun 2020

I'm not a memorabilia guy, with one exception.
I have a never used Spalding baseball with the sigs of Billy Williams, Ernie Banks, & Ron Santo. My 1st, 2nd & 4th favorite players on the 60s Cubs. (Glenn Beckett was #3, but I never got to meet him.)
I'm pretty sure they were signed in 67, 66, & 68.
I still have the ball, and since it's in a clear plastic sphere, the sigs look pretty much like the day they were signed.
There was a picture (signed) of me & Billy at a Buick dealership, but alas, that picture is parts unknown.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Rod was more than a class act.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jun 2020

He was our Park Board as well as our 10-12 year olds Traveling Team Banquet Key Noter for several years.

Best record for on base percentage in the Majors. Known for his "seeing eye singles".

generalbetrayus

(507 posts)
9. Having grown up in Washington, D.C. and a nearby suburb during the 60s,
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jun 2020

I can assure you with great confidence that there are no Calvin Griffith statues to pull down in D.C.

RussellCattle

(1,535 posts)
15. As a baseball fan who hates Ty Cobb, even though he never played in my lifetime....
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 01:09 PM
Jun 2020

....and only grudgingly acknowledges his achievements on the field, I've got to say that I'd get behind any effort to tear down his statue wherever it may be. I'd say let's leave U.S.Grant's statue be, even though he owned a slave, and go after the true racist.

Crazy though it may seem, I just read the Wikipedia entry for Cobb and it paints him in a much better light later in life. Something as a reformed racist and a benefactor of education. Who knew.

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
16. Reminds me of a story
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=hill--002elm

When I was a kid, I would spend a week each summer with my grandparents and watch the Twins 'A' level club play each night. They had a black player who spent *seven* seasons with this Class A minor league team, led the league in HR multiple times, but the Twins would just not promote him.

https://mwlguide.com/biography/hill.html

olddad65

(599 posts)
17. So when does the NFL force the Washington DC franchise
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jun 2020

To stop using a racial slur for the teams name?

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