Trump campaign manager: Trolls claiming rally ticket hack 'don't know what they're talking about

[brooklynite]

Source: Politico

President Donald Trump’s campaign manager, Brad Parscale, on Sunday denied that anti-Trump organizers on social media were to blame for the lower-than-expected rally turnout on Saturday in Tulsa, Okla.

“Leftists and online trolls doing a victory lap, thinking they somehow impacted rally attendance, don’t know what they’re talking about or how our rallies work,” Parscale said in a statement.

News outlets, including CNN and The New York Times, reported claims by social media users on TikTok and Korean pop music fans that they signed up for potentially hundreds of thousands of rally tickets online though they had no intention of attending.

Parscale said the reporters who shared the news had “behaved unprofessionally and were willing dupes to the charade.”



Read more: https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/06/21/trump-tulsa-rally-ticket-hack-332140

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

1. The truth is: not that many true trump believers

wanted to go to the rally.

No matter how many people reserved tickets they had no intention of using.

[TexasBushwhacker]

29. Exactly. Greater Tulsa has a population of close to 1 million

Figure that half are adults, that's 500K. Figure that half of them are voters, that's 250K. Figure that half of those voted for him in 2016, that's 125K. Only 6600 showed up for the rally, a little over 5% of the 125K. The low turnout wasn't because teenagers took so many tickets. His base simply isn't as big as it once was.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

35. Actually, Trump got 144,258 votes in Tulsa.

This is what I love about the internet. Your back-of-the-envelope calculation was quite good, but I was pretty sure that a lot more than 50% of those who voted in Tulsa. He actually got 58.4% of the vote in Tulsa county. In the state as a whole he got 65.3% of the vote. Oh, and Gary Johnson took 5.7%.

Supposedly a fair number of people drove some distance to attend.

If he loses Oklahoma this November, well then.

[TexasBushwhacker]

37. I don't need no stinkin' envelope!

I'm a bookkeeper. I did it in my head!

But yeah, he did better in OK than almost anywhere. Only 7 electoral votes though.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

42. LOL!

I was very impressed at your figures. I could tell you'd done them in your head. I could not have come up with those numbers without research. But then, I'm not a bookkeeper.

[Newest Reality]

2. How do their rallys work?

How do their rallies work, exactly? Do they even know?

Is there a special rally token that makes their rallies more authentically rallyish?

How many willing dupes does it take to hold a professional rally charade? Well, all of them, of course.

[Mr.Bill]

3. He's correct, you know.

They didn't keep anyone from attending the rally. The reason for the low attendance is nothing but Trump himself. Everyone who wanted to come was in the arena.

[getagrip_already]

32. As usual, they lie to deflect the REAL issue.....

The real damage to bradie boy wasn't a meager turnout. The tix campaign couldn't do that.

He is ignoring the real damage done. First, they "believed" there was a much higher level of interest to the point where they set uop an outdoor overflow area, they hyped the attendence ahead of time, and they set themselves up for a humilation.

The other thing he won't acknowledge is that the real gold from these signups wasn't ticket sales, it was data gathering. Brad himself boasted he had a million new names to add to his database.

That data is now dilluted and polluted with non-existent supporters. They will spend millions trying to reach them. Idiots.

[Sapient Donkey]

36. Right? I don't think this statement really helps their cause

He's just pointing out that hardly anyone wanted to see Trump yammer about nonsense, and at most the internet kids simply made them plan for a larger event.

[NotAPuppet]

4. Well, he's right!

The actual attendance was not influenced by people online.

Fact: People just didn’t show up because they’re not enthusiastic about Trump.

Another fact: Brad is incompetent and needs to explain how one million people turned into 6,200 Trump supporters who showed up at the rally. Or was he actually fooled by the “online trolls” when he miscalculated the numbers?

[tulipsandroses]

12. Nope, I don't think he was fooled. I don't think he is incompetent either. Well, not in the way we

would think. I think he is looking out for Brad. He is no longer in this to run a campaign that elects Trump. He makes a ton of money behind the scenes. Including selling and renting the lists of people that sign up.

Parscale’s payday
The arrangement replaces an earlier one that had relied on companies owned by Parscale, a close confidant of the Trump family who had played a key role in building the list as the digital director of Trump’s 2016 campaign. During that campaign, his company, Giles-Parscale, was by far the biggest vendor, receiving nearly $88 million in payments, though most of the money was probably passed through to Facebook and other platforms for ads.

In the months after Trump’s election, another company owned by Parscale began quietly renting out the list to a few campaigns, though people who work with the Trump campaign said he did little to solicit such rentals.

Federal Election Commission filings show that from the beginning of 2017 to the end of this June, Parscale Strategy paid Trump’s campaign more than $236,000 in “list rental revenue.”

But when Parscale was tapped to be Trump’s re-election campaign manager in late February, he began exploring other ways to manage and expand list rentals.

[link:https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-campaign-selling-email-and-phone-lists-for-millions-of-supporters/|

[Frustratedlady]

5. There were also Democrats in Tulsa who ordered, but had no intention to attend.

In fact, they were angry that Trump was dragging Covid into Tulsa.

[trc]

6. LOL, so he admits teabag45 failed to draw more than 6200 all on his own

Not sure this is the message he meant to put out but ok, their campaign failed bigly without any interference from dems, kids or Kpop. I love it.

[Bengus81]

7. LOL...Brad still has a JOB??

[cos dem]

8. The hack wasn't to keep attendance low,

It was to make Brat Parscale look like an idiot when talking about millions of ticket requests. To which I say, mission accomplished!

[Drum]

10. Yup this!

👆

[onetexan]

14. BINGO!! No matter which way he spins it, he still looks foolish in generating all that hype re: 1M+.

The BOK center was 2/3 empty. 1/3 Red hats, 2/3 empty blue chairs.

[wcmagumba]

9. The're just not that into him....

Nobody, even many thuglicans, likes the dipsh*t....

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. So ... he lied to Trump about how many tickets had been sold, to keep his job?

I thought "our opponents interfered with our ticketing" was the best-looking excuse they could use. The campaign said earlier on Saturday that protesters were having no effect, so we know his "protesters blocked people" was BS.

A Reuters reporter said that while police did temporarily close the access gates after protesters arrived at the rally perimeter, state troopers helped clear the area and the gates were reopened three hours before the rally began.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0621/1148774-tiktok-trump/

Reporters on site saw little evidence of attendees being blocked from going to the rally. One group of protesters blocked one of three entrances into the arena for about 15 minutes, but it was after most people had already entered the arena’s outer perimeter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hot-words-but-no-violence-as-trump-rallies-in-tulsa/2020/06/20/82bdd10c-b30b-11ea-8f56-63f38c990077_story.html

Is it too tinfoily to suggest that Parscale had a few fake protesters block one entrance briefly so he could get photos and them use them as an excuse to get out of lying to his boss whose money he is harvesting?

[Gore1FL]

13. I don't think anyone thinks the kids affected attendance.

They certainly affected expectations though. The campaign was more than happy to them high.

[sweetloukillbot]

24. They might have...

In the sense that some people Who were planning to go might have seen that there were a million people coming to Tulsa, and said fuck it, to much of a crowd and too much of a hassle.

[Cozmo]

15. Could it be that Parscale is an even bigger con than trump?

[Beartracks]

16. On the contrary, Trump's campaign is perfectly capable of not filling an arena all on its own.

[Nevilledog]

38. *snort*

[Under The Radar]

17. I would like to think that Trump no longer appeals to huge

Groups of ignorant followers instead of giving all of the credit to tricky teenagers.

[honest.abe]

18. LOL.. Brad is totally confused.

No one is saying the ticket hack stopped anyone from attending but it did cause the Trump campaign to think there were a million people coming and they bragged out it and planned for it.

They were punked by kids and dont have the guts to admit it!

[Raine]

40. Bragging about a million people coming probably scared off

many of his people in not wanting to deal with being in a crowd that large.

[Collimator]

19. I shared the story of the many young people who reserved tickets

with no intentions of attending the rally with a lovely, 91 year old friend today. She tries to keep up with the news but does not have internet.

She was particularly confused when I mentioned the Korean pop music fans and their efforts. She thought that they spread the rumor that some popular band was going to play as a means of getting people to reserve tickets.

Eventually, she got the point, and I explained about the on-line lingo of trolling. She was very pleased. As she put it, "Do you think that he will get upset enough to explode?" We can only hope, my friend, we can only hope.

[Zorro]

20. Parscale should have hired more ringers

[ashredux]

21. This is a TELL.....Trump's own campaign manipulated the online tickets to hype the event....

They thought it would push more folks to come if they thought a LOT of folks were coming.....

Brad...it backfired!

[Raine]

41. Probably scared them off thinking about a crowd of a million people all squished together. nt

[Eugene]

22. So Brad, you're claiming full ownership of this clusterf**k. Fine.

Your people boasted about issuing 1 million tickets to a 16,000 seat venue, and fewer than 7,000 real people showed up. Sabotaged or not, you screwed up.

[cstanleytech]

23. So he is saying the real reason the rally attendance was in the toilet

is because most people now distrust and dislike Trump?

[louis-t]

25. Yeah, maybe he's right. Maybe it's just that no one likes the asshole

anymore. Makes more sense.

[jcgoldie]

26. So the reason nobody showed up is...

... Trump cant even inspire his own nazis anymore?

[NickB79]

27. There are only two explanations: hackers, or Trump has lost the support of his base

Frankly, the hack explanation is less embarrassing than the lost base one.

[Thekaspervote]

28. Bottom line brad, only the hard core base had interest in your guy, and that's a shrinking number

[Rural_Progressive]

30. Pretty simple explanation

Most of the attendees at these rallies say they go to be entertained, think of it as a political professional wrestling performance.

They're not going anymore because trump has run out of gas, he's run out of new schtick to wow and amaze them with, he's gotten boring.

It's not entertaining anymore so they're not showing up.plain and simple. This is the mentality of the trump base.

[ancianita]

31. Parscale's argument just underscores what the polls show. His base is eroding.

The hype and lies about Biden aren't working and MF45 knows it.

[marie999]

33. Parscale said he knew they were phony,

then why did he count the phony ones when he said that hundreds of thousand tickets had been reserved?

[Maeve]

34. The first rule of holes....

It DOESN'T MATTER if the kids really only messed around the edges. IT DOESN'T MATTER that they didn't affect the actual attendance. And talking about it, denying in in the most strenuous terms, just makes the story bigger.

And that story is---you over-hyped the rally. You couldn't even HALF fill the venue, never mind the "overflow" area. And the data mining/e-mail collection you were so proud of? A bunch of it is bogus.

The "fake news" was the crap you put out and everyone knows it now. They are laughing at you, not with you.

[Raine]

39. Hmmmm well the alternative is worse

there was no limit on the tickets, first come, first serve so it really comes down to Trump's own people not requesting tickets. Trump's people didn't turn out, probably afraid of Covid 19 or losing interest in his same old speeches.

[orleans]

43. brad said:

“The fact is that a week’s worth of the fake news media warning people away from the rally because of COVID and protesters, coupled with recent images of American cities on fire, had a real impact on people bringing their families and children to the rally,” Parscale said."

so these hard-ass tough guys let a few protesters & a little covid keep them away?

(what is the word i'm looking for--the name they love to call us? ... oh, right...)

SNOWFLAKES!!

[truthisfreedom]

44. No, I think we do know how they work, brad. They DON'T WORK ANYMORE.

Nobody wants your worthless candidate. And you got punked and you cannot handle it.

[Paladin]

45. Time for you to head back to San Antonio, Brad.

It's hotter than hell there, this time of year---just think of it as a mild example of where you're going to spend eternity. Upside: There will be plenty of trump people in the nether regions to keep you company....