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UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:57 AM Jun 2020

NASCAR says noose found in Bubba Wallace's garage stall at Talladega

Source: Marketwatch

TALLADEGA, Ala. — A noose was found in the garage stall of Black driver Bubba Wallace at the NASCAR race in Alabama on Sunday, less than two weeks after he successfully pushed the auto racing series to ban the Confederate flag at its tracks and facilities.

NASCAR announced the discovery late Sunday and said it had launched an immediate investigation. It said it will do everything possible to find who was responsible and “eliminate them from the sport.”

“We are angry and outraged, and cannot state strongly enough how seriously we take this heinous act,” the series said in a statement. “As we have stated unequivocally, there is no place for racism in NASCAR, and this act only strengthens our resolve to make the sport open and welcoming to all.”

Wallace is the only fulltime Black driver in NASCAR’s elite Cup Series. On Twitter, he said the “the despicable act of racism and hatred leaves me incredibly saddened and serves as a painful reminder of how much further we have to go as a society and how persistent we must be in the fight against racism.”

Read more: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nascar-says-noose-found-in-bubba-wallaces-garage-stall-at-talladega-2020-06-21?mod=mw_latestnews



I am so sick of all of these awful people ....
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NASCAR says noose found in Bubba Wallace's garage stall at Talladega (Original Post) UpInArms Jun 2020 OP
It's not surprising though. rusty quoin Jun 2020 #1
Yeah, Sure They Will sfstaxprep Jun 2020 #2
Um, this is going to take a while... B Stieg Jun 2020 #3
As a longtime NASCAR fan, The Figment Jun 2020 #4
Are You Kidding? sfstaxprep Jun 2020 #6
No,just because one team member is an ass The Figment Jun 2020 #7
I think you got it about right padah513 Jun 2020 #8
Considering that it takes $25-40 million to run a "cheap second tier team" for just one season, The Figment Jun 2020 #10
If it's a member of his team, Igel Jun 2020 #16
The one comfort have is That he drives for Petty. maddogesq Jun 2020 #20
KR! Cha Jun 2020 #5
Security cameras and DNA aeromanKC Jun 2020 #9
No Doubt ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #27
It wouldn't surprise me if it was a race fan jmowreader Jun 2020 #11
You are incorrect MichMan Jun 2020 #13
why are they even allowing fans? pstokely Jun 2020 #21
This is the first race they are allowing any fans at all MichMan Jun 2020 #26
Yes, a race fan. The problem is which race he is a fan of. (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2020 #23
When the person is found out, their response will be: NurseJackie Jun 2020 #12
Easy answer: Lock his joking ass in the slammer. onetexan Jun 2020 #14
That guilty person will be doing a Trump. yup! riversedge Jun 2020 #15
he and his family llashram Jun 2020 #17
NASCAR investigators have it narrowed down... Paladin Jun 2020 #18
Massive displays Traildogbob Jun 2020 #19
Latest update is that NASCAR found it and Bubba did not see it. FBI is investigating MichMan Jun 2020 #22
Racist cowardly little punks like to hide who they are RandiFan1290 Jun 2020 #30
They want the Confederate flag because of heritage. Yeah. A racist, bigoted heritage still_one Jun 2020 #24
Bubba Wallace matt819 Jun 2020 #25
Do they not already have cameras at these facilities? I'd be surprised given these vehicles & onetexan Jun 2020 #29
some dumbass self-owns and proves the flag isn't about "heritage" Kali Jun 2020 #28
Twitter is already full of "Jessie Smolett" claims RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #31

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
2. Yeah, Sure They Will
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:13 AM
Jun 2020

I'll believe it when I see them catch the person(s) who are responsible. They could just make someone the patsy.

The Figment

(494 posts)
4. As a longtime NASCAR fan,
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 02:33 AM
Jun 2020

My personal take on this...if it turns out that the person who did is a member of another team then the entire team should be suspended for the rest of the year, all driver and owner points taken away, this includes owner,crew chief, drivers, cars and the team number also as well as a $250,000 fine...and the perp should be fired and brought up on charges.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
6. Are You Kidding?
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 02:53 AM
Jun 2020

The team should be Expelled from the sport. If you hire someone like that, it is a direct reflection upon yourself.

They should be banned from Nascar forever.

The Figment

(494 posts)
7. No,just because one team member is an ass
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 02:58 AM
Jun 2020

Doesn't mean the whole team is...that is the same thinking that the Trumpers use...one asshole breaks a Starbucks window and everyone is ANTIFA or Black Blok...

Sorry just my opinion.

padah513

(2,502 posts)
8. I think you got it about right
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 03:34 AM
Jun 2020

The punishment should be so insanely over the top that anyone else wouldn't dream of trying it again, and I agree with you 100%. No lifetime ban on anybody but the perpetrator and then bring hate crime charges. Lots of expensive equipment lying around, not to mention the cars, so they should have cameras. Whether they were on or not is the question.

The Figment

(494 posts)
10. Considering that it takes $25-40 million to run a "cheap second tier team" for just one season,
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 05:25 AM
Jun 2020

And that "bending"the rules are a part of the sport you would think that security would be up there as well.
Hell when a "stock" car cost approximately $3-5 million to develop, build and run...well ya'll would think there would be a camera or two.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
16. If it's a member of his team,
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:36 AM
Jun 2020

same punishment? Because the assumption is that that one person didn't act alone and by doing so victimize not only the one team but also his own, but the entire team bears responsibility for him. It spreads responsibility.

I'd find that even more egregious, but I suspect most people will look at the situation and give him mostly a pass. Perhaps narrow the punishment to just the person who did it and say that the person victimized the team. In any case, people wouldn't want to be spreading the responsibility around to the wrong people.

The asymmetry's immoral.

maddogesq

(1,245 posts)
20. The one comfort have is That he drives for Petty.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jun 2020

From what I know of The King, I have every confidence that this will be dealt with quickly and forcefully.

I could be wrong, but I hope not.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
9. Security cameras and DNA
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 04:36 AM
Jun 2020

Surely NASCAR has security surveillance at their facilities. Lifetime ban and federal hate crimes should result

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
27. No Doubt
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jun 2020

With the value of what's in those garages, they MUST have cameras. The cars are worth a million.
Tools & scopes are worth a quarter million.
The car set ups are secrets to the team.
And, they're going to let all that be unsecured by a few $100 cameras?
Doubtful.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
11. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a race fan
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 05:28 AM
Jun 2020

NASCAR sells pit passes at its events. If you have one, you can go to the garage area but not into the stalls. (I have not bought one because they are expensive, but I think next year I will get one for Sonoma.) This was the first race since the pandemic started that had fans in attendance.

Having said that, NASCAR does not play around when it comes to wrongdoing by team members. If it was a crew member or a driver, they will smoke that person out and cause him great pain.

MichMan

(11,912 posts)
13. You are incorrect
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 08:20 AM
Jun 2020

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:09 AM - Edit history (1)

Fans can buy a pit pass which allows a person on pit road during practice and qualifying, but garage passes are not available for sale.

With NASCAR races being run with no spectators and limited to essential race personnel only, this was not a fan. When they say essential, they really mean it. Even the race and broadcast teams have a limited number of people allowed in compared to usual

This was most likely a crew member or track security

Edit to add that there is always the possibility this was a false flag incident

MichMan

(11,912 posts)
26. This is the first race they are allowing any fans at all
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jun 2020

It is limited to 5000 and the track seats 80k in the grandstands.

They are limiting to specific seating areas and ensuring people are separated if not from the same group

There is no infield or general admission

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. When the person is found out, their response will be:
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 07:18 AM
Jun 2020
"I was only kidding. It's a joke. I didn't mean it. Can't you take a joke?"

Heaven help us all.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
17. he and his family
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:39 AM
Jun 2020

better be careful. The Knightriders are saddling up their horses nationwide. David Duke, Bannon, Trump and the rest of his "very fine people" crew are just getting started, again.

Traildogbob

(8,720 posts)
19. Massive displays
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:35 AM
Jun 2020

Of confederate flags outside the track, and a Flyover plane with a Confederate flag banner. The noose is what the flag is about, the noose is also the “heritage” of that flag. Period. Lots of suspects as you said. All white!

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
30. Racist cowardly little punks like to hide who they are
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jun 2020

and creep around in the shadows.

Fucking losers

matt819

(10,749 posts)
25. Bubba Wallace
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jun 2020

remains gracious even after this.

I saw an interview with him talking about the issue of banning the confederate flag. He spoke very highly of NASCAR leadership and the discussions they had on the issue. And it would seem that they were sincere, given their reaction to this incident. And yet Wallace, at least publicly, remains above the fray. After all, I suppose, he knows who these people are - racists and white supremacists to their core. All he wants to do is drive and make things in his world a little better, more humane, more decent.

All of that said, I do hope he puts up video cameras.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
29. Do they not already have cameras at these facilities? I'd be surprised given these vehicles &
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jun 2020

equipment supporting them are so expensive. Bubba Wallace is a class act. I hope going forward that Nascar and Richard Petty's company will be providing him protection.

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