Trump says he's 'authorized' arrest of anyone 'who vandalizes or destroys' monuments

[mahatmakanejeeves]

Source: ABC News

Trump says he's 'authorized' arrest of anyone 'who vandalizes or destroys' monuments
He said the action was "effective immediately."
By
Ella Torres
June 23, 2020, 7:42 AM
3 min read

President Donald Trump said he "authorized" the federal government to "arrest anyone who vandalizes or destroys any monument, statue or other such Federal property in the U.S."

Trump also wrote the offense would be punishable with up to 10 years in prison.

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"This action is taken effective immediately, but may also be used retroactively for destruction or vandalism already caused. There will be no exceptions!" he wrote on Twitter on Tuesday morning.

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Trump cited the Veterans Memorial Preservation or "such other laws that may be pertinent" to enforce the arrests.

One section of the act states that a person who willfully injures or destroys veteran memorials -- or attempts to do so -- shall be fined and/or imprisoned no more than 10 years.

ABC News' Katherine Faulders and Morgan Winsor contributed to this story.



Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-authorized-arrests-vandalizes-destroys-monuments/story?id=71400009

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I have authorized the Federal Government to arrest anyone who vandalizes or destroys any monument, statue or other such Federal property in the U.S. with up to 10 years in prison, per the Veteran's Memorial Preservation Act, or such other laws that may be pertinent.....

Link to tweet

.....This action is taken effective immediately, but may also be used retroactively for destruction or vandalism already caused. There will be no exceptions!

Link to tweet

[George II]

1. Does that include anyone who scums up the white house?

[SharonClark]

2. The protesters should make a citizen's arrest.

[riversedge]

5. "any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States" Seems that confederate**monuments

are NOT included ..........
This was posted in discussion section of the article --there is NOT a separate link:


https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-authorized-arrests-vandalizes-destroys-monuments/story?id=71400009

President Trump still does not understand that he does not make the law. I do know that it's illegal to vandalize monuments. I do not know what the actual punishment is upon conviction, but I doubt it's 10 years.



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Brian Perrin TexasVulcan • an hour ago

So you don't know then.
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TexasVulcan Brian Perrin • an hour ago

I just looked it up. The fine is $100 and a possible 3 months in prison.
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Brian Perrin TexasVulcan • an hour ago

Where is your source? I provided a quote from a laywers site above.
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FfloydZzepp Brian Perrin • an hour ago

16 USC 426i
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TexasVulcan FfloydZzepp • an hour ago

And here is that code. Nothing about 10 years which was my sole point.

16 USC 426i

If any person shall willfully destroy, mutilate, deface, injure, or remove any monument, column, statue, memorial structure, or work of art that shall be erected or placed upon the grounds of the battlefield by lawful authority, or shall willfully destroy or remove any fence, railing, inclosure, or other work for the protection or ornament of said battlefield, or any portion thereof; or shall willfully destroy, cut, hack, bark, break down, or otherwise injure any tree, bush, or shrubbery that may be growing upon said battlefield, or shall cut down or fell or remove any timber, battle relic, tree, or trees growing or being upon such battlefield, except by permission of the Secretary of the Interior, or shall willfully remove or destroy any breastworks, earthworks, walls, or other defenses or shelter, or any part thereof, constructed by the armies formerly engaged in the battle on the lands or approaches to the battlefield, any person so offending shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and upon conviction thereof before any court of competent jurisdiction, shall for each and every such offense be fined not less than $5 nor more than $100.
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FfloydZzepp TexasVulcan • an hour ago

Exactly.
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TexasVulcan FfloydZzepp • an hour ago

As I said, my sole point was there is nothing about 10 years in prison and Trump cannot change that.


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Brian Perrin TexasVulcan • an hour ago

Lies, see the amendment

§1369. Destruction of veterans' memorials
(a) Whoever, in a circumstance described in subsection (b), willfully injures or destroys, or attempts to injure or destroy, any structure, plaque, statue, or other monument on public property commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.

(b) A circumstance described in this subsection is that—

(1) in committing the offense described in subsection (a), the defendant travels or causes another to travel in interstate or foreign commerce, or uses the mail or an instrumentality of interstate or foreign commerce; or

(2) the structure, plaque, statue, or other monument described in subsection (a) is located on property owned by, or under the jurisdiction of, the Federal Government.

(Added Pub. L. 108–29, §2(a), May 29, 2003, 117 Stat. 772.)

Short Title of 2003 Amendment
Pub. L. 108–29, §1, May 29, 2003, 117 Stat. 772, provided that: "This Act [enacting this section and provisions set out as a note under section 109 of Title 23, Highways] may be cited as the 'Veterans' Memorial Preservation and Recognition Act of 2003'."

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TexasVulcan Brian Perrin • an hour ago

I stand corrected. I looked it up. You are right. By the way, confederate statues do not count as "US veterans".
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Trumpet TexasVulcan • 18 minutes ago

So he’s now trying to play a history law professor? Good luck with THAT one.
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TexasVulcan Trumpet • 16 minutes ago

No, I don't think he has a clue. He just says whatever comes to his mouth at the instant. Speaking without thinking is a Trump specialty.
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Trumpet TexasVulcan • a minute ago

Bet he’s going to have that law inscribed on a plaque beneath his statue! LMAO!
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[riversedge]

7. As far as I can see--this Vet law does NOT apply to Confederate monuments

............§1369. Destruction of veterans' memorials
(a) Whoever, in a circumstance described in subsection (b), willfully injures or destroys, or attempts to injure or destroy, any structure, plaque, statue, or other monument on public property commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

8. Many members of the CS military were in the US military first, but

if the "monument on public property" is not "commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States," then the monument is not included in this diktat.

{edited from the original to make note of that}

[Polybius]

19. Perhaps not, but Andrew Jackson is

People are on camera trying to take him down.

[dalton99a]

3. Law 'n Order

https://democraticunderground.com/100213639377

[Squinch]

4. What an imbecile.

[AkFemDem]

6. Like he just invented a law against vandalism of federal property....

Next he’s going to announce he’s making it illegal to shoot someone.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. Hasn't vandalism always been illegal?

[lonely bird]

10. Donnie, Donnie, Donnie

Ever heard the phrase “ex post facto”?

You cannot make something retroactive. The constitution forbids it.

[SledDriver]

11. "May also be used retroactively"

How does that play with ex-post-facto laws?

I thought that wasn’t allowed

[Botany]

12. Knowledge of the law, the Constitution, and what exactly are the powers of the POTUS has ...

... never been Trump's strength. Hasn't it always been illegal to break the law?

[doc03]

13. Well don't we already have a law against that dumb ass? There

should be a law against a low life POS impersonating a president.

[Blue_playwright]

14. I'm so tired...

Of governance by Twitter.

[joshdawg]

15. Apparently donnie doofuss doesn't realize

that there is already a law on the books pertaining to this.

Anyone surprised at his ignorance?

[Javaman]

16. so his tweets have now replaced rule by fiat? LOL

yeah, okay disaster don, whatever you cowardly say.

[IronLionZion]

17. Then he has to arrest himself

because he has destroyed National Monuments by opening them up for drilling and mining

[Nitram]

18. What a putz. Pretending to be President, issuing commands like a dictator, and failing utterly

to impress anyone except a few racist degenerates.

[Mr.Bill]

20. Because up until now it was legal? n/t

[mahatmakanejeeves]

21. When I am President I will issue an Executive Order on my first day in office making crime illegal.

When I am President I will issue an Executive Order on my first day in office making crime illegal. Kind of obvious really, not sure why someone hasn’t done it already.

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