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swimboy

(7,284 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:53 PM Jul 2020

Hundreds show up to watch Stonewall Jackson statue come down along Monument Avenue

Source: Richmond Times-Dispatch

Hundreds of people gathered at the Stonewall Jackson monument Wednesday about an hour after crews arrived to begin taking down the statue of the Confederate general.

Hundreds of people who worked and lived nearby ran to the scene, cheering on every development by workers.

Read more: https://www.richmond.com/tncms/asset/editorial/4f139f30-c849-54d5-b768-de4ac5a02c22



Richmond Mayor is removing Confederate statues on Monument Avenue under state emergency measures. Plans to remove all city-owned statues. The Lee statue is owned by the state; removal delayed by court injunction
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Hundreds show up to watch Stonewall Jackson statue come down along Monument Avenue (Original Post) swimboy Jul 2020 OP
How about THAT underpants Jul 2020 #1
So exciting and so long in coming! swimboy Jul 2020 #5
👍 underpants Jul 2020 #12
Bye, Felicia soothsayer Jul 2020 #2
Here's a link that will work (+adding a pic) BumRushDaShow Jul 2020 #3
Thanks so much! n/t swimboy Jul 2020 #4
You are welcome BumRushDaShow Jul 2020 #9
They should have had reenactors dress as confederates and shoot the statue in the arm. Gore1FL Jul 2020 #6
Rally behind the Virginians! greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #7
Those poor United of Confederacy Daughters...lol! Hopefully, someone will tear down their building rkleinberger Jul 2020 #8
Let us toss it in the river, then rest in the shade of those cool trees. . . . Journeyman Jul 2020 #10
Extra credit for the historical reference. Paladin Jul 2020 #14
Refers to the Thane of Cawdor in the play "McBeth". Cawdor also a rebel oasis Jul 2020 #21
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2020 #11
There is one of him at the Manassas Battlefield as well. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2020 #13
So is Trump sending Barr down to arrest the mayor? rurallib Jul 2020 #15
A group appealed to Trump to intervene swimboy Jul 2020 #16
Wasn't he shot by his own troops? In any case a loser, right Drumpf? Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #17
Not a loser MosheFeingold Jul 2020 #18
I'm not fascinated by traitors or slave owners. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #19
Well, I am MosheFeingold Jul 2020 #20

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
6. They should have had reenactors dress as confederates and shoot the statue in the arm.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:24 PM
Jul 2020

Then they could remove the arm and take down the rest of the statue. It'd be like Chancellorsville all over again.

rkleinberger

(155 posts)
8. Those poor United of Confederacy Daughters...lol! Hopefully, someone will tear down their building
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jul 2020

Hopefully, someone will tear down their building soon in Richmond.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
10. Let us toss it in the river, then rest in the shade of those cool trees. . . .
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jul 2020
(A paraphrase of the General's last words as he lay dying, shot by his own soldiers.)

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
14. Extra credit for the historical reference.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jul 2020

What's that old saying, something to the effect of "Nothing so became his life as his leaving it."

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
13. There is one of him at the Manassas Battlefield as well.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jul 2020

Which is a Museum of sorts, as is Gettysburg.

The moniker..."Stonewall "Jackson was coined during the Battle of 1st Manassas in July of 1861 by one of his underlings.."There he sits upon his horse like a stonewall." Referring to the stoic look on his face and rigid posture. Thomas Jackson died of a gunshot wound by one of his soldiers shot by mistake in Chancelorsville, VA.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
15. So is Trump sending Barr down to arrest the mayor?
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jul 2020

not very good snark on my part.

Maybe they could give the statue to Trump and he could haul it around to his rallies?

swimboy

(7,284 posts)
16. A group appealed to Trump to intervene
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:07 PM
Jul 2020

A small number of residents who found themselves to be a very unpopular minority and that group vanished from the internets. Not before we feasted on the irony of Confederate sympathizers calling on the federal government to stymie the will of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
18. Not a loser
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:58 PM
Jul 2020

To this day, he is remembered (and studied) as probably the preeminent tactical commanders in any war, certainly any American general. He is studied like Rommel throughout the world. He routinely routed better armed and more numerous Union troops.

He did ultimately die from an accidental discharge from a forward picket.

His death is probably what turned the way, allowing the Union to win.

Regarding the man himself, he was, indeed, a slave owner -- his family having about 5 household slaves -- but seemed to prefer to take in cast offs that were considered unfit and that had bad prospects -- i.e., a girl with learning and physical difficulties, older people, that sort of thing. He was apparently so well-liked by his slaves they stayed with him during the war and stayed with his family after, voluntarily.

Flawed, but fascinating, man.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
20. Well, I am
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 10:29 AM
Jul 2020

Just like I am fascinated by Nazis, people with severe mental illness, and criminals.

Here you have a (by all accounts) very brilliant man and (oddly) very moral man. Yet he was deeply flawed.

It's like studying cancer. You have to look to see what went wrong.

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