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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:36 AM Jul 2020

Dallas megachurch that hosted Pence approved for millions in coronavirus aid

Source: The Hill

A Dallas megachurch that hosted Vice President Pence last month amid the coronavirus pandemic was approved for millions of dollars in federal aid.

First Baptist Dallas was approved for a forgivable loan worth $2 million to $5 million, according to data released by the Small Business Administration (SBA) on Monday.

Pence spoke at the church last month at an event dubbed “Celebrate Freedom Rally” with a crowd of 2,000 people. The church has a maximum capacity of about 3,000.

Its pastor, Robert Jeffress, has also been on President Trump’s evangelical advisory board, Reuters noted..

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Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/506151-dallas-megachurch-that-hosted-pence-approved-for-millions-in-coronavirus-aid

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Dallas megachurch that hosted Pence approved for millions in coronavirus aid (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 2020 OP
WTF? BBG Jul 2020 #1
WTF?! Bayard Jul 2020 #2
The instant they applied for the loan, they admitted being a business William Seger Jul 2020 #3
THIS. KPN Jul 2020 #9
In early 40s SoBaptists boasted that they NEVER took 'government money'. bobbieinok Jul 2020 #4
The key phrase here is "forgivable loan" patphil Jul 2020 #5
Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #6
Churches are religious institutions not small businesses. cstanleytech Jul 2020 #7
This s should be investigated rockfordfile Jul 2020 #8
This infuriates me. Every day I am infuriated by some blatantly corrupt action taken by KPN Jul 2020 #10
Couldn't agree more KPN DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #12
Wonder if Jeffress/Pence ever said anything about Trump before the election? keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #11
Can we say BRIBERY? I thought we could. not_the_one Jul 2020 #13
Why would any church need millions of dollars? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #14

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
2. WTF?!
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jul 2020

This money was supposed to keep small businesses afloat--not go to presumably non-profit religious organizations! Is every church in the land getting this funding now? How about the non-Christian ones?

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
3. The instant they applied for the loan, they admitted being a business
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jul 2020

Last edited Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:33 AM - Edit history (1)

... and should have lost their tax-exempt status. Taxpayers shouldn't have to keep tax dodgers afloat.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
4. In early 40s SoBaptists boasted that they NEVER took 'government money'.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:54 AM
Jul 2020

They said you had to really watch the Catholics, because they were always trying to get government money for their schools and hospitals. SoBaptists would NEVER do that!

Boy, I'd sure like to hear and see those SoBaptist preachers of my childhood when they learned the minister of a major SBC church was taking GOVERNMENT MONEY!

patphil

(6,172 posts)
5. The key phrase here is "forgivable loan"
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:15 AM
Jul 2020

If forgiven, it turns into a gift.
My guess is it will be forgiven. The "pastor" is a big time Trump supporter, and this is essentially a kickback for that support; using taxpayer money to boot.

It's a clever way to get around the separation of church and state, and is probably illegal. But, that has never stopped Trump.

KPN

(15,644 posts)
10. This infuriates me. Every day I am infuriated by some blatantly corrupt action taken by
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jul 2020

this administration. And every day I think, we Dems have to put this on a list of perfidious MF45/GOP acts that we must give priority to investigating, prosecuting and holding offenders accountable wherever possible, and then reversing or legislating away. The list is overwhelming. .... I fear it is too overwhelming and we consequently live with some of it for decades. But my biggest fear is we hold no one significant accountable and mistakenly move on "for the good of the nation".

DENVERPOPS

(8,818 posts)
12. Couldn't agree more KPN
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jul 2020

the entirety of their corruption is staggering and I bet we know a thousandth of what is going on in this direction......

It is truly like "open season" on the constitution and Rule of Law...............total lawlessness.........

keithbvadu2

(36,793 posts)
11. Wonder if Jeffress/Pence ever said anything about Trump before the election?
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jul 2020

Wonder if Jeffress/Pence ever said anything about Trump before the election?

Did they praise his witnessing for Christianity?

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
13. Can we say BRIBERY? I thought we could.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:07 PM
Jul 2020

A 2 to 5 million $ loan that is forgivable (aka FREE MONEY), meant for SMALL businesses, given to the fundigelicals and their MEGAchurch (who are tax-free because they are OF THE GAWD), for purchasing a campaign site/platform, and to ensure the votes of the religious greedy.

They are getting desperate, and aren't even trying to hide their graft and corruption.

Biden needs to have someone researching all these scams by the turd to his donors, supporters, sycophants, FAMILY members. It would make one hell of a campaign ad, that the citizens would understand.

Start by explaining "the emoluments clause", then list all the ways the turd is cramming tax payer dollars into his OWN personal pockets, or using for the bribing of individuals, groups, companies, politicians.

Given sufficient education of the issue, the majority of Americans are NOT stupid. We can recognize a con-artist from a mile away. But we can be gullible. That is why we are such rich "marks". You have to spell it out, and we will "grok". (Robert Heinlein - Stranger In A Strange Land, to understand on all levels)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
14. Why would any church need millions of dollars?
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:42 PM
Jul 2020

With no need to pay taxes, if any church cannot survive on the donations of its members, then it simply can't go on. If it can't get enough members to support a reasonable salary for its pastoral family, pay utility bills, and structural upkeep, then why should it exist?

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