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WhiteTara

(29,715 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:39 PM Jul 2020

ICE Offering 'Citizens Academy' Course with Training on Arresting Immigrants

Source: Newsweek

he U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency is set to launch a six-week "Citizens Academy" course on immigration enforcement, which will include training for citizens on how to arrest undocumented immigrants.

A letter published online by The St. Louis Inter-Faith Committee on Latin America (IFCLA) appears to show ICE Chicago Field Office Director Robert Guadian inviting shareholders to participate in the course, which includes six days of training over a six-week period starting in September.

"You have been identified as a valued member of the community who may have interest in participating in the inaugural class of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) Chicago Citizens Academy," the letter states.

Noting that the program is "the first of its kind," Guadian states that the program will "serve as a pilot for nationwide implementation."

During the training, stakeholders would receive training on a number of "facets and responsibilities of ICE/ERO operations," he says.

Included in the course would be training in "defensive tactics, firearms familiarization and targeted arrests."

The training would be "scenario-based," he states, adding that exercises would be "conducted in a safe and positive environment."

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/ice-launching-citizens-academy-course-how-agency-arrests-immigrants-1516656



what could go wrong with this?
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ICE Offering 'Citizens Academy' Course with Training on Arresting Immigrants (Original Post) WhiteTara Jul 2020 OP
This is the worst idea I've heard of, maybe ever. Who thought this up? northoftheborder Jul 2020 #1
I'll bet it was Stephen Miller ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #14
If that's the worst idea, you haven't been listening. Igel Jul 2020 #47
First priority on Jan. 2021: ABOLISH ICE! Crowman2009 Jul 2020 #2
K&R!! onetexan Jul 2020 #45
Looks like trump has just opened hunting season on humans. There WILL BE SHOOTINGS. BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #3
Yes Auggie Jul 2020 #18
He's opened hunting season on hispanics and asians... Johnyawl Jul 2020 #27
This is merely the next phase. Think of his campaign rhetoric. The russian bounties onour niyad Jul 2020 #41
Christ. Every militiaman, Karen, trumpster, gun-humper, etc., will proudly display their certificate Hoyt Jul 2020 #4
"the vigilante lifestyle" PSPS Jul 2020 #5
He fears? ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #15
Anyone who signs up gets a free brown shirt. cos dem Jul 2020 #6
Evangelicals hunting brown people for fun - what could go wrong? ArizonaLib Jul 2020 #7
ICE needs to go. grumpyduck Jul 2020 #8
Yes.. ashredux Jul 2020 #17
Posse Comitatus bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #9
Does ICE provide a brown shirt or do you have to buy your own? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2020 #10
'Citizens Academy' What's that? A sequel to Police Academy? sandensea Jul 2020 #11
I hope some decent Americans take the course just to report back what they are Maraya1969 Jul 2020 #12
What could possibly go wrong with this? ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #13
Trump's new Brownshirts ashredux Jul 2020 #16
What could go wrong? Initech Jul 2020 #19
they never fucking sleep barbtries Jul 2020 #20
DumbF#@KS Smackdown2019 Jul 2020 #21
Not for nothing....but.. stillcool Jul 2020 #22
That's even more alarming WhiteTara Jul 2020 #25
scared me... stillcool Jul 2020 #31
Trump will "spontaneously" send troops to the border in OCT as an Oct Surprise move TeamPooka Jul 2020 #32
That's been done before. n/t Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #36
They tried the border scare in 2016. It didn't work. Flaleftist Jul 2020 #42
The infamous "October Surprise" is afoot. There will be more. BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #44
horrific. nt wiggs Jul 2020 #23
That's it... BlueIdaho Jul 2020 #24
What could go wrong? Dem2theMax Jul 2020 #26
I think they want to intimidate Hispanics Frances Jul 2020 #28
Ping, ping, ping! We have a winner! intheflow Jul 2020 #55
Our Sheriff's office has Citizen's Academy classes from time to time. Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #29
How about a course for citizen arresting police and ICE that break the law? TeamPooka Jul 2020 #30
I tried to research this and found it was started in 2012. docgee Jul 2020 #33
I was so skeptical, but it's a reputable source WhiteTara Jul 2020 #37
If you read the whole article (not saying you didn't) Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #39
I just saw this on twitter and I searched for it and turned up here. Sapient Donkey Jul 2020 #46
Edited, b/c snopes is on it and found the purported invitation letter. intheflow Jul 2020 #56
I am not a fan of this idea even if it's not exactly how it was presented Sapient Donkey Jul 2020 #58
Brown shirts in the making! nt pazzyanne Jul 2020 #34
Enough of the bullshit already. world wide wally Jul 2020 #35
It is well past time ICE be abolished ... Greywing Jul 2020 #38
ICE has shareholders????? dixiegrrrrl Jul 2020 #40
I work in a public library. intheflow Jul 2020 #57
Ive been wonderin where the racist serial killer cops who get fired from their Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2020 #43
These people will not have qualified immunity. They better think twice about trying this. vsrazdem Jul 2020 #48
Holy 1984 Batman! SKKY Jul 2020 #49
This... will end badly rpannier Jul 2020 #50
Just stop checking/testing for immigration status. keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #51
Border patrol militia members kill 9 y/o girl to support their cause. keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #52
Wasn't there just a movie with this plot? ucrdem Jul 2020 #53
Here it is, "The Hunt": ucrdem Jul 2020 #54

Igel

(35,309 posts)
47. If that's the worst idea, you haven't been listening.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:06 PM
Jul 2020

For the last week. Month. Year. Decade.

Daily I see new examples of "worst idea I've ever heard of."

Did I say I don't get out much, and for 10 hours a day I seem to be busy doing stuff that leaves me wishing I could bash my head against a wall?

A wall that has a railroad spike mounted in it at forehead level?

And, still, daily I see ...

Crowman2009

(2,495 posts)
2. First priority on Jan. 2021: ABOLISH ICE!
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jul 2020

Last edited Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:29 PM - Edit history (1)

There is no leeway at this point. This gang of racist thugs need to be fired!

niyad

(113,303 posts)
41. This is merely the next phase. Think of his campaign rhetoric. The russian bounties onour
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 08:33 PM
Jul 2020

Military. Etc. etc.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Christ. Every militiaman, Karen, trumpster, gun-humper, etc., will proudly display their certificate
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:45 PM
Jul 2020

PSPS

(13,597 posts)
5. "the vigilante lifestyle"
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jul 2020

Speaking with Newsweek on Thursday, however, Chicago Congressman Jesús 'Chuy' García said he was disturbed by the program, which he fears will lead to racial profiling, surveillance and potential violence.

...

The six-week course, García said, appeared to be "inviting people to become an extension of ICE... to possibly surveil their neighbors who might be undocumented."

He also feared that the invitation might appeal to "right-wing individuals who might like the vigilante lifestyle," which could lead to potential violence.

...

"Absolutely. When you incite people with hateful and intolerant rhetoric for four years and you ratchet things up, especially if the polls show you're behind or struggling you can become reckless and that's my fear," he said, appearing to refer to President Donald Trump's current struggle in the polls.

People who share in the president's "beliefs about immigration," he said, could be drawn to the program and feel that they are being given a license to profile, surveil and potentially attack community members.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
15. He fears? ...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jul 2020

No doubt this will lead to racial profiling, surveillance and potential violence

That's a certainty

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
7. Evangelicals hunting brown people for fun - what could go wrong?
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jul 2020

Why can they afford to round up and house hard working brown people but can't afford to provide food and housing for the homeless?

Who would Jesus feed and house: Brown families they will deport or the homeless? If only there were a book widely available where we could search for answer.....

grumpyduck

(6,235 posts)
8. ICE needs to go.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jul 2020

We don't need a fucking Sturmabteilung or Geheime Staatspolizei here. What's next, a Kristallnacht?

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
9. Posse Comitatus
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.northcom.mil/Newsroom/Fact-Sheets/Article-View/Article/563993/the-posse-comitatus-act/

I'm looking for exceptions where this might fit, but not finding it. Maybe you need an act of Congress to deputize citizens?

This makes no sense to me. You might as well declare stand your ground no matter where you are.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
13. What could possibly go wrong with this? ...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jul 2020

Just another place to put racists in charge so that do a dick measuring contest.

Smackdown2019

(1,188 posts)
21. DumbF#@KS
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jul 2020

DumbF#@KS will most likely shoot their toes off or wander across into Mexico and arrest Mexican Farmers on their property. This is not 1866, it is 2020 crying out loud!

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
31. scared me...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:35 PM
Jul 2020

unfortunately, their little show at Lafayette Park put all my doubts to rest. Anything is possible...and there was the Mexican President's visit yesterday. Lot of planning for something using 4,000 military troops in October. I don't think it's a parade

TeamPooka

(24,226 posts)
32. Trump will "spontaneously" send troops to the border in OCT as an Oct Surprise move
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jul 2020

for a "sudden" problem there.
More "Be afraid white people" shit.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
24. That's it...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jul 2020

Without a doubt the whole organization needs to be disbanded and all employees barred from any further federal employment.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
28. I think they want to intimidate Hispanics
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:30 PM
Jul 2020

So they will be afraid some nut will shoot them if they try to vote
Voter suppression

intheflow

(28,473 posts)
55. Ping, ping, ping! We have a winner!
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jul 2020

Voter suppression, for sure. I think Portland is a test ground. They're planning massive voter intimidation on Election Day, and this is how they recruit their "troops." I think they'll be all along the Mexican border, as well as major cities in blue areas that are surrounded by seas of red (NOLA, Denver, St. Paul, DC, Atlanta, etc.). There's gonna be a lot of people waiting hours at polling places while twitchy, obnoxious, heavily-armed white men and their loud-mouthed, fouled-mouthed womenfolk menacingly pace around them.

Mr.Bill

(24,289 posts)
29. Our Sheriff's office has Citizen's Academy classes from time to time.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:32 PM
Jul 2020

I attended one about ten years ago. It was one night a week for 16 weeks. It was very informative and interesting. In no way did it include instructing citizens to perform or assist with police functions.

docgee

(870 posts)
33. I tried to research this and found it was started in 2012.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jul 2020

It's like a community outreach program showing people what they want them to think they do.

Now maybe this is a new Stephen Miller special, but I'm not finding much else about it.

Mr.Bill

(24,289 posts)
39. If you read the whole article (not saying you didn't)
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 08:09 PM
Jul 2020

it's about a common community outreach program run by various law enforcement agencies and how one Latino Congressman if freaking out about it and making all kinds of assumptions.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
46. I just saw this on twitter and I searched for it and turned up here.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:24 PM
Jul 2020

I'm trying to find the actual letter. This just sounds too ridiculous, and I got the sense that it sounds more like an outreach thing based on the latter part of the article. I want to see the original letter and go from there. While this may seem crazy insane for a more normal administration, it doesn't seem impossible with this one. I hope this isn't accurate, because if it is, then this is pretty damn scary.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
58. I am not a fan of this idea even if it's not exactly how it was presented
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:07 PM
Jul 2020

I don't really understand the reasoning behind showing off arrests, raids, and firearm shows. The people who will be attracted to that could easily get the wrong idea about the intent.

intheflow

(28,473 posts)
57. I work in a public library.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jul 2020

We sometimes refer to our patron-citizens as community shareholders. The term is not necessarily exclusive to boards of directors, though given ICE has been taken over by GOP ideology, it's probably referring to donors who plan to arm these Citizen's Academy grads just in time for the election.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
43. Ive been wonderin where the racist serial killer cops who get fired from their
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jul 2020

police depts will go - here's one answrer....

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
48. These people will not have qualified immunity. They better think twice about trying this.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:42 PM
Jul 2020

I would love to see them get carried away, violate someone's rights and have these shareholders personally sued.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
53. Wasn't there just a movie with this plot?
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:06 AM
Jul 2020

I remember seeing a trailer recently and thinking "that's one I'll be happy to miss"

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
54. Here it is, "The Hunt":
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:19 AM
Jul 2020


Apparently it's some kind of satire but the trailer I saw made it look like a thriller. Whether it ever appeared anywhere I don't know.

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