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brooklynite

(94,256 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:58 PM Jul 2020

Trump commutes sentence of longtime adviser Roger Stone

Source: Politico

President Donald Trump has commuted the sentence of longtime adviser Roger Stone, who was found guilty of seeking to thwart congressional and FBI investigations into alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.

A senior administration official confirmed to POLITICO that Trump commuted Stone's sentence.

Stone, 67, was sentenced in February to three years and four months in prison after a trial late last year where a jury found him guilty on all seven felony charges brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/10/trump-commutes-sentence-roger-stone-356760

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Trump commutes sentence of longtime adviser Roger Stone (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2020 OP
Damn him. Delphinus Jul 2020 #1
He's still a convicted felon, and I believe there are local charges pending, too. George II Jul 2020 #2
Yes, he can plead the 5th to Congress, but can still be prosecuted for other crimes. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #3
Do you have a link to potential local charges? This is the first I have heard of that. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2020 #14
Can the state go after him? Fuck. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #4
I'd have only been surprised if he didn't commute his sentence. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #5
Yup...I figured he'd be in until Nov-Dec and then released Bengus81 Jul 2020 #42
POLITICO: "Trump Commutes Stone, Dems in Disarray" ... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #6
No shit, but look at the reporters. George II Jul 2020 #17
One more loss for the Rule of Law. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2020 #7
Fuck 'em both. cp Jul 2020 #8
SWAMP critter SWAMP critter SWAMP critter SWAMP critter SWAMP critter ... slumcamper Jul 2020 #9
Of course. He uses the unique power of the president to give favors to buddies. Kablooie Jul 2020 #10
No Quid Pro Quo!!!!! choie Jul 2020 #11
Hey Susan Collins... Catch2.2 Jul 2020 #12
Trump needs the campaign help... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2020 #13
This comes as no big surprise. And I suspect that after the election he will give Stone totodeinhere Jul 2020 #15
Another flaw in our supposed exceptional Constitution. n/t MarcA Jul 2020 #16
This means his guilt is admitted. Grasswire2 Jul 2020 #18
Isn't that a pardon? nt intrepidity Jul 2020 #25
Unbelievable frazzled Jul 2020 #19
Like I said upthread, I think there is a strong likelihood that he will get a pardon after totodeinhere Jul 2020 #20
State charges kurtcagle Jul 2020 #21
FUCK ROGER STONE AND THE THUGOCRACY HORSE HE RODE IN ON. ancianita Jul 2020 #22
Friday night news dump! nt SunSeeker Jul 2020 #23
How soon will Roger Stone be sporting his new tattoo? Brother Buzz Jul 2020 #24
Brilliant! nt intrepidity Jul 2020 #26
gross riversedge Jul 2020 #29
A traitor commuted a traitor rockfordfile Jul 2020 #27
He commuted the sentence because he didn't want to pardon him. I think if he was vsrazdem Jul 2020 #28
The WH sent out a nasty comment also...........I feel bad for Mueller ......... riversedge Jul 2020 #30
The entire Republican Party is complicit in this breakdown of our rule of law Zorro Jul 2020 #31
No quarter for those fuckers. LudwigPastorius Jul 2020 #34
I hope someone doesn't decide to take the law into their own hands... BlueIdaho Jul 2020 #32
Time for a full chest tattoo of tRump's ugly mug per the deal Blue Owl Jul 2020 #33
How long before the first ad drops? They're writing themselves.. Princess Turandot Jul 2020 #35
Obstructing justice. jeffreyi Jul 2020 #36
Impeach Trump again!!!! Now !!!!! mdbl Jul 2020 #37
Misuse of this power given to the President Aussie105 Jul 2020 #38
This will come back to haunt them both duforsure Jul 2020 #39
Stone is probably waxing Nixonian in Trump's ear this very day bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #40
This is proof Trump knows he is going to lose in November. Doug.Goodall Jul 2020 #41
Read one story where Barr is pissed and may resign---BS!! Bengus81 Jul 2020 #43
quelle surprise. n/t malthaussen Jul 2020 #44
He can't pardon his accomplices or they will then have to testify McCamy Taylor Jul 2020 #45
Are pardons used as part of a payment for the commission of a crime still pardons though? cstanleytech Jul 2020 #47
Can Stone be forced to testify over crimes he was already convicted on? cstanleytech Jul 2020 #46
7. One more loss for the Rule of Law.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jul 2020

It's not "What did you do?" but rather "Who do you know?" that determines the kind of justice you'll get under the Trump administration.

Kablooie

(18,603 posts)
10. Of course. He uses the unique power of the president to give favors to buddies.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:18 PM
Jul 2020

About as corrupt as you can get.

Though rumors are that Putin paid off all of Trump's debts.
If that's true that might even be more corrupt.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,075 posts)
13. Trump needs the campaign help...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jul 2020

... gaslighting and ratphuking galore now that Roger Stone remains on the streets/house arrest.

Facebook claims they shut down 100 profiles/accounts that Roger Stone had there for pumping fake news, gaslighting and you know...

totodeinhere

(13,056 posts)
15. This comes as no big surprise. And I suspect that after the election he will give Stone
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:30 PM
Jul 2020

a full pardon. This commutation is meant to keep him out of jail until Trump can give out a full pardon after the election when there will be no political consequences.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
19. Unbelievable
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jul 2020

The only thing I can say is at least it wasn’t a pardon. He won’t have to go to prison, but the guilty conviction will hopefully go with him to the grave. They should etch it on his tombstone.

totodeinhere

(13,056 posts)
20. Like I said upthread, I think there is a strong likelihood that he will get a pardon after
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:59 PM
Jul 2020

the election when there will be no political consequences. The commutation is meant to keep him out of prison until then.

kurtcagle

(1,601 posts)
21. State charges
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:00 PM
Jul 2020

Double jeopardy only applies to federal crimes.

Of course, Trump also just handed the Democrats a potent, potent weapon.

ancianita

(35,895 posts)
22. FUCK ROGER STONE AND THE THUGOCRACY HORSE HE RODE IN ON.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:05 PM
Jul 2020

On a calmer note,

A personality cult that tries to establish rule of men over Rule of Law purposely conflates 'loyalty' with 'patriotism.'

Most of those who put party henchmen or president over country are loyalists who simply substitute "patriotism" for their core value of "loyalty."

We who know what a Rule of Law nation is, know that they fool no one but themselves.

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
28. He commuted the sentence because he didn't want to pardon him. I think if he was
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:42 PM
Jul 2020

pardoned, then he has immunity and could be forced to testify against Trump in any trial. This way, he can still plead the fifth at any trial and can't be charged again. This is IMO, but any legal eagles could weigh in if this is correct or not.

riversedge

(70,005 posts)
30. The WH sent out a nasty comment also...........I feel bad for Mueller .........
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:54 PM
Jul 2020



............The White House said in a statement: "Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Grant of Clemency commuting the unjust sentence of Roger Stone, Jr," calling Stone "a victim of the Russia Hoax that the Left and its allies in the media perpetuated for years."

Zorro

(15,716 posts)
31. The entire Republican Party is complicit in this breakdown of our rule of law
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:08 PM
Jul 2020

I greatly anticipate them reaping the whirlwind in the coming year.

Princess Turandot

(4,785 posts)
35. How long before the first ad drops? They're writing themselves..
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:45 PM
Jul 2020

'From one liar to another'.

'A jury* said that the truth still matters. Trump said it does not.'

'It's said that the truth shall set you free. In Trump's case, the lies do.'

(*The prosecutor's closing statement was based on the fact that the truth still matters, after Stone's attorneys that 'he lied, but so what'.)

Use it to bash Trump.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
37. Impeach Trump again!!!! Now !!!!!
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:51 AM
Jul 2020

The House needs to act NOW. Don't wait for a damn election. Our democracy is at stake. Does anyone think this mob white house will allow a fair election at this point?

Aussie105

(5,306 posts)
38. Misuse of this power given to the President
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:25 AM
Jul 2020

makes a mockery of the legal system.

The executive orders thing does as well.

The electoral college fiddle makes a mockery of the voting system.

Whoever thought those three things were a good idea, needs to change his mind.

They need to go. ASAP.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
39. This will come back to haunt them both
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:38 AM
Jul 2020

After trump gets ousted I predict Stone will be indicted numerous times and he'll end up in prison for life, and trump will lose his freedom too, eventually. these two criminals will see consequences.

bucolic_frolic

(42,980 posts)
40. Stone is probably waxing Nixonian in Trump's ear this very day
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 06:48 AM
Jul 2020

Trump's best dirty tricks guy is on the loose!

Doug.Goodall

(1,241 posts)
41. This is proof Trump knows he is going to lose in November.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 07:06 AM
Jul 2020

This is an 'out the door' pardon. Many more to follow.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
45. He can't pardon his accomplices or they will then have to testify
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jul 2020

against him or else face perjury charges since they cannot plead the 5th if they have been pardoned.

Trump is up shit creek, however, when it comes to those who have not been convicted yet. I expect blanket pardons and a last minute transfer of power to Pence in exchange for a promise that Pence will then pardon Trump.

cstanleytech

(26,202 posts)
46. Can Stone be forced to testify over crimes he was already convicted on?
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 06:04 PM
Jul 2020

If so then that might provide a wedge to crack him open because if he lies he faces new charges and the only way to not face new charges will be to tell the truth.

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