U.S. coronavirus data already disappeared after Trump administration shifted control from CDC to HHS

[fleur-de-lisa]

Source: CNBC

Previously public data has already disappeared from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s website after the Trump administration quietly shifted control of the information to the Department of Health and Human Services.

Since the pandemic began, the CDC has regularly published data on availability of hospital beds and intensive care units across the country. But when Ryan Panchadsaram, who helps run a data-tracking site called Covid Exit Strategy, said he tried to collect the data from the CDC on Tuesday, it disappeared.

“We were surprised because the modules that we normally go to were empty. The data wasn’t available and not there,” he said. “There was no warning.”

CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield told reporters on a conference call Wednesday that states were told to stop sending hospital information to the National Healthcare Safety Network site, the CDC’s system for gathering data, beginning Wednesday. Instead, all data will now be reported through HHS’ reporting portal, officials said, adding that the decision was made to streamline data reporting and to provide HHS officials with real-time data.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/16/us-coronavirus-data-has-already-disappeared-after-trump-administration-shifted-control-from-cdc-to-hhs.html

[Iliyah]

1. States will still informed their . ..

people. Can't hide the data forever.

[Miguelito Loveless]

5. Until the governors of certains states

Florida, for instance, shut down state level data.

[Iliyah]

8. At this point in time, the USA's citizens will speak out . .

Plus, majority of the governors care about their state and people.

What this administration is doing will backfire.

[Miguelito Loveless]

13. I have kind of lost hope that Trump supporters are sane

The governor of Oklahoma HAS the disease, yet still supports Trump's policies and is refusing a mandatory mask order.

This has the hallmarks of a death cult. Jim Jones on a national level.

[orangecrush]

26. This.

[ProfessorGAC]

39. Are They Shutting Down Data To Insurers?

I don't think so.
There's nothing these governors can do to stop the flow of true data.

[Miguelito Loveless]

41. I would be HIGHLY suspicious of data coming

from any Red state.

In NC, our government has forbidden any flood projections using current sea level data, or forward looking projections of sea level. Only "historical" data may be used.

[ProfessorGAC]

42. Tell That To The Cash Flow...

...managers at the insurance companies. Or the actuaries.
They're professionals. They probably won't laugh.
They're getting the real numbers, no matter what map color the state is.

[Miguelito Loveless]

44. If the insurance industry had the real numbers on say,

flood plains, they wouldn't write a policy for huge swaths of the southern coastal states from Virginia to Texas. A day of reckoning is coming, and a lot of insurance companies are going to go under, as will some re-insurers.

[ProfessorGAC]

45. Ridiculous!

United Healthcare posted a $7 billion quarterly profit.
You were saying?

[Sgent]

48. Insurers don't get the same data in real time

they get claims data usually weeks after the patient is discharged.

They never get data about the number of hospital beds occupied, etc.

[ProfessorGAC]

49. well, Duh!

The cumulative curve is still the same, just shifted on the x axis.
Life insurance claims are typically filed in days.
Funeral home directors tell clients to file during the arrangement phase.
Insurance companies get the death data in under a week, and death certificate shows cause of death.
Also, sick but unhospitalized patients going to doctor or clinic do not see it more than a few days after. Discharge is simultaneous to the end of the office visit.

[CrispyQ]

2. The USA, going the way of North Korea.

That's what the Con wants. Parades glorifying his greatness & severe penalties for anyone who speaks badly of him. I wonder what he & Barr are cooking up for when the Con loses the election in a landslide?

[rickyhall]

3. Is Russia coaching them? I think so-oh.

[Dem2theMax]

36. Wrong choice of words.

Russia isn't coaching him. Russia is giving him orders.

[PatSeg]

4. Well, that's one way to deal with a pandemic

What you don't know won't hurt you.

[SkyDaddy7]

46. ...It will just kill you?

[PatSeg]

51. Well yeah, there's that

or physically damaged for life, but just think of the economy.

These people are unbelievable.

[SkyDaddy7]

53. They really are!

The manner in which they’re toying with people’s lives is nauseating!🤬

[PatSeg]

54. Its beyond comprehension

[DSandra]

55. The consequences of racism

Racists would destroy society just to keep the racial heirarchy.

[SkyDaddy7]

58. Without a doubt!

Steve Bannon has come right out & said he's for burning western democracy to the ground! Just like you said, they're so determined to maintain this white power structure they would literally destroy everything in a last ditch effort to keep it! It just shows their troglodyte mentality!!

We need to make sure they don't!

...Being a white male born & raised in the DEEP South I certainly have a position of privileged (...As long as they don't know I'm an Atheist!😜 I try to use to talk to other white folks & open their eyes. But some idiots are literally unreachable!
...Another thing is Conservative Media is extremely powerful in shaping the ignorant mind & dividing country...And the truly sick thing is, Yes, its done for politics but Its #1 reason is PROFIT!🤬

[Champp]

6. Wow, Republicans are burying the truth, letting coronavirus run wild

They do not want us to know what they are not doing.

Treasonous, and pure evil.

[Lonestarblue]

30. I honestly think it's racist politics.

Trump lost interest in doing anything about containing the virus around the time the news broke that the virus resulted in far more deaths of African Americans and Hispanics. Republicans don’t actually care about real people, and they’re gambling that the virus will not hurt their voters as much as it hurts Democratic voters. Sounds crazy, I know. But there is just no other rationale I can think of for continuing to downplay the severity of this virus. Just supporting Trump doesn’t seem enough when it makes you look like a fool in your own state.

[SkyDaddy7]

47. I would not doubt it!!

Not for a second!!!

[bucolic_frolic]

7. Theft of taxpayer services

We paid for that data!

[fleur-de-lisa]

18. Yes!

[Baitball Blogger]

9. Horrible!

Trump won't be able to hide the disaster that is about to occur in the hospitals.

[1plus1equals1]

10. You can't hide the dead bodies

I see regularly where Fat Donnie's administration is trying to hide the numbers, but it won't change the reality on the ground.

[getagrip_already]

21. that is exactly what they are trying to do.....

They will reclassify deaths as non-covid, then release deceptive totals. Desatos is already doing that.. His state totals are far lower in counties that publish their own data, yet the media only reports "official" state or wh totals.

So they are hiding the dead - under a pile of bureaucracy and lies. And america will buy it. Criminal.

[gab13by13]

31. I agree,

Our totals for infections and deaths are way lower than reality. People who die at home from Covid-19 aren't tested just buried.

[DSandra]

56. +1 unfortunately

Apparently Trump is taking Xi Jinping's advice...

[lagomorph777]

11. Trump doesn't think this will scare and enrage people even more?

What a fucking moron.

[2naSalit]

24. No shit!

Nothing like whacking a beehive with a baseball bat. Murder hornets, my hind end! He ain't seen nothing yet.

[DSandra]

57. Trump's whole presidency has been "I dare you to stop me"

And unfortunately many times people have just folded like a house of cards.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

12. If you don't test & there isn't any data, then there aren't any cases - bunker boy the stable genius

[jalan48]

14. This is how an oligarchy governs. We, the people are no longer the governing force. A

special group of citizens tells us how it will be while they enrich themselves in secret.

[bluewater]

40. +1000

[jeffreyi]

15. A quote from the article...

Sounds like the Johns Hopkins site will be the go-to now.



"Dr. Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University, which runs one of the most popular third-party coronavirus data dashboards, said the policy change won’t impact the Hopkins site because they’ve managed to source their data directly from states. She added, however, that the policy change raises questions about the transparency of the data and the role of the CDC in the ongoing U.S. response."

And if states are already managing to hide data, well, heck.

[fleur-de-lisa]

19. Thank you.

I was hoping some organization was going to step up and manage the data since Dump seems intent on hiding it for his own nefarious purposes.

[drray23]

22. Its true for every major site. Worldometers also pulls from state and county health boards.

[BigmanPigman]

50. Thanks, that is what I wanted to know.

[duforsure]

16. trump (or putin) is turning states blue

With all their policies now. Hiding the real numbers shows intent to deceive, again from trump , who accused others of doing just that. He doesn't care if you die, and has done everything in his powers to hurt this country, the opposite of his claims , and republicans are saying nothing and complicit. They just thought the Mid Terms was bad for them.

[Kablooie]

17. See? Trump was right! The Coronavirus will suddenly disappear!

Deaths will shoot up to the ceiling but whose counting?

[mahatmakanejeeves]

20. The reports go to Teletracking and HHS Protect, both owned by billionaire Trump allies.

As of today, hospitals are directed by the Trump administration to report Covid data not to CDC but solely to Teletracking and HHS Protect, both owned by billionaire Trump allies. Dictators control information. Time for some civil disobedience by hospital administrators?

Link to tweet

[Raven123]

23. Must be under audit

[DENVERPOPS]

25. Reports are

showing FEMA stocking up of Refrigerator Semi's in numerous cities across the nation.

Next, they will need mass graves and bulldozers............

[bobbieinok]

27. On youtube videos of machines digging in Tulsa for Massacre 1921 possible graves

Oaklawn Cemetary on 11th Street, near downtown, was already a city cemetary in 1906, one year before OK became a state

[StarryNite]

29. FEMA coffins

[Javaman]

28. Down the memory hole

Next up: repukes claim there never was any data

[gab13by13]

32. It's like reality TV, coordinated by Trump supporters,

We are going to have TV producers and directors release data that is favorable to Trump, then Trump will be given a script to spout off how wonderful he did in defeating the virus.

Johns Hopkins has been the one keeping data up to date, I fear this new reporting will impact Johns Hopkins also.

[Hekate]

33. Meanwhile, back in the USSR...

Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch

[C Moon]

34. Trump hates the U.S.

Now he's pissed off because the ruling last week by SCOTUS.
Revenge is on its way.

[yonder]

35. It will be interesting to see how they try to explain away a drop in cases and deaths

officially due to Covid versus an increase in deaths from all causes. I would expect to see a proportionate increase in the latter.

[Hekate]

37. Controlling knowledge: "There is no Izvestia in Pravda, & no Pravda in Izvestia"

[likesmountains 52]

38. What is the best way to push back on this? Who to call?

[stillcool]

43. The Dept of Public Health...

our state reports a bunch of data on it's website every day. I haven't looked at what other states do

[jimlup]

52. This is extremely troubling to me...

We all know the cover story all too well but we also know the backstory.

This does not bode well.

[Alex4Martinez]

59. KICK.

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