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swag

(26,486 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:34 PM Jul 2020

Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab Protesters Off Portland Streets

Source: Oregon Public Broadcasting

by Jonathan Levinson and Conrad Wilson OPB July 16, 2020 2:45 p.m. | Updated: July 16, 2020 5:18 p.m.

Excerpt:

Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.

The tactic appears to be another escalation in federal force deployed on Portland city streets, as federal officials and President Donald Trump have said they plan to “quell” nightly protests outside the federal courthouse and Multnomah County Justice Center that have lasted for more than six weeks.

Federal officers have charged at least 13 people with crimes related to the protests so far, while others have been arrested and released, including Pettibone. They also left one demonstrator hospitalized with skull fractures after shooting him in the face with so-called “less lethal” munitions July 11.

Officers from the U.S. Marshals Special Operations Group and Customs and Border Protection’s BORTAC, have been sent to Portland to protect federal property during the recent protests against racism and police brutality.

But interviews conducted by OPB show officers are also detaining people on Portland streets who aren’t near federal property, nor is it clear that all of the people being arrested have engaged in criminal activity. Demonstrators like O’Shea and Pettibone said they think they were targeted by federal officers for simply wearing black clothing in the area of the demonstration.

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Read more: https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/

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Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab Protesters Off Portland Streets (Original Post) swag Jul 2020 OP
I would not have any sympathy if any of the feds were harmed. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #1
Trump is trying to escalate violence. Lonestarblue Jul 2020 #2
Stasi Secret Police? bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #3
Yeah, was looking at this earlier soothsayer Jul 2020 #4
Rt.. TY Cha Jul 2020 #23
I don't see how this could go wrong Miguelito Loveless Jul 2020 #5
I witnessed something like that in Paris, 1988. rickford66 Jul 2020 #10
Chilling! Newest Reality Jul 2020 #6
Gawd. Gestapo? nt babylonsister Jul 2020 #7
WOW! bluestarone Jul 2020 #9
Wonder how many are Erik prince's murdering thugs? niyad Jul 2020 #12
First thing I thought as well. They look just like the guys in DC. Erik Prince written all over it. truthisfreedom Jul 2020 #31
There was a time in Uruguay when people were picked-up and disappeared sanatanadharma Jul 2020 #8
Some of the missing people taken from the streets were tortured death, by US specialist Dan Mitrione Judi Lynn Jul 2020 #21
I thought we were the government. warmfeet Jul 2020 #11
This is domestic terrorism being done by those 'cops' canuckledragger Jul 2020 #13
if the feds are masked , no badge no name plate no insginia of rank , out of uniform AllaN01Bear Jul 2020 #14
they should be arrested as terrorists rdking647 Jul 2020 #27
Defend yourselves. Grokenstein Jul 2020 #15
I Wrote to Our Mayor McKim Jul 2020 #16
Keeping up with the "snatcher vehicles" swag Jul 2020 #17
What is the protest about... JohnnyRingo Jul 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Sapient Donkey Jul 2020 #19
Generalissimo Trump is escalating Hekate Jul 2020 #20
Trying to intimidate protesters into becoming informers muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #22
How do the victim and bystanders know it's not a kidnapping ? Why shouldn't they defend themselves ? eppur_se_muova Jul 2020 #24
any feds doing this should be treated as terrorists rdking647 Jul 2020 #25
This operation is Barr's brainchild. dalton99a Jul 2020 #26
I wonder.... Ollie Garkie Jul 2020 #28
"I think Portland is a test case" swag Jul 2020 #29
Look for protesters disappearing and coming soon journalists will be found dead or disappeared . geretogo Jul 2020 #30
Shades of Argentina. Hugin Jul 2020 #32

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
2. Trump is trying to escalate violence.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:39 PM
Jul 2020

The Feds need to leave Portland and let the state deal with its own policing needs.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,457 posts)
5. I don't see how this could go wrong
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:01 PM
Jul 2020

Men in black tactical gear screech up to the curb in a car, jump out, grab you and stuff you in the car. I mean, no way a bystander carrying a firearm might think a kidnapping was in progress and act accordingly.

rickford66

(5,522 posts)
10. I witnessed something like that in Paris, 1988.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:43 PM
Jul 2020

My wife and I were outside the Centre Pompidou when a car stopped, four men, in plain clothes, jumped out and grabbed a guy on the sidewalk, threw him into the car and sped off.

bluestarone

(16,872 posts)
9. WOW!
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:35 PM
Jul 2020

MY thoughts as well! Can't the Gov. go to court, and at least get these yayoo's off the streets? If they are there to protect federal buildings, then STAY there and fucking protect them! Really how do we know if they are foreign or domestic?

sanatanadharma

(3,689 posts)
8. There was a time in Uruguay when people were picked-up and disappeared
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:30 PM
Jul 2020

There was a time in Uruguay when people were picked-up from the streets and disappeared. Occasionally a victim's body is found but the bodies in the sea will never be seen.
The country is still reckoning with the history of the dictadura and with those living now who kidnapped and killed citizens under the cover of the government then.

Judi Lynn

(160,452 posts)
21. Some of the missing people taken from the streets were tortured death, by US specialist Dan Mitrione
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 05:22 AM
Jul 2020

who was sent there by Richard Nixon to train Uruguayan police his own torture techniques. He had his torture devices delivered to him in the US Embassy diplomatic bag.

Dan Mitrione Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Mitrione

So glad you mentioned Uruguay. So few US Americans are aware of any of that hideous dictatorship, and the US involvement.

When a movie was made about Dan Mitrione, State of Siege the government made sure it wasn't distributed commercially.

State of Siege Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Siege

Thanks for your post, sanatanadharma.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
11. I thought we were the government.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:52 PM
Jul 2020

I thought we elected representatives to represent us.

I was fucking wrong. It all got away.......... from us. Somehow.

A lot of hard work remains to make it work for all of us.

canuckledragger

(1,636 posts)
13. This is domestic terrorism being done by those 'cops'
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jul 2020

meant to intimidate and silence any kind of dissent or imaginary challenge to the authority they abuse so often.

I hope THEY get investigated and thrown in jail for kidnapping.

AllaN01Bear

(18,016 posts)
14. if the feds are masked , no badge no name plate no insginia of rank , out of uniform
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:20 PM
Jul 2020

and should be fired .

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
15. Defend yourselves.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:52 PM
Jul 2020

If they are not clearly marked as law enforcement, they have no authority to detain you.

This is the shit George Zimmerman attempted to pull the night he murdered Trayvon Martin. Martin fought back because he knew what would happen if he complied. These Feds are not quite there...yet. They're seeing what you'll tolerate. THEN they'll start killing you.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
16. I Wrote to Our Mayor
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 01:03 AM
Jul 2020

I wrote to our mayor about this. I am wondering where were these people taken? I am going to get to the bottom of this. So where are they? What are they charged with? I will find out!

Response to swag (Original post)

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
20. Generalissimo Trump is escalating
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:35 AM
Jul 2020

How very, very Soviet of him. I guess those nightly calls to his boss are paying off.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
22. Trying to intimidate protesters into becoming informers
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 05:36 AM
Jul 2020
Pettibone said he was put into a cell. Soon after, two officers came in to read him his Miranda rights. They didn’t tell him why he was being arrested. He said they asked him if he wanted to waive his rights and answer some questions, but Pettibone declined and said he wanted a lawyer. The interview was terminated, and about 90 minutes later he was released. He said he did not receive any paperwork, citation or record of his arrest.

They're picking up isolated people who aren't doing anything illegal, using tactics to make them fearful (without causing physical harm that could be documented and proved - so they pulled his beanie over his face so he couldn't see), and then seeing if they can be coerced into talking without a lawyer present.

Rule #1 for protesters: however law-abiding you are, always be prepared to get arrested for a bogus reason. And then never say anything without a genuine lawyer working for you.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
24. How do the victim and bystanders know it's not a kidnapping ? Why shouldn't they defend themselves ?
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 05:44 AM
Jul 2020

If one shot an officer, I would consider it justified as self-defense. And I'm about the least pro-gun person you'll find.

Ollie Garkie

(186 posts)
28. I wonder....
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jul 2020

What oh so skeptical of the federal government conservatives will say about this. That's right, nothing, the hypocrites.

swag

(26,486 posts)
29. "I think Portland is a test case"
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:06 AM
Jul 2020

“I think Portland is a test case,” Zakir Khan, a spokesman for the Oregon chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told The Post. “They want to see what they can get away with before launching into other parts of the country.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
30. Look for protesters disappearing and coming soon journalists will be found dead or disappeared .
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jul 2020

This is classic Fascist police state tactics and 30% of brain dead Americans will agree with it .
Ben Franklin said , " all Republics end in dictatorship " .

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