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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:53 PM Jul 2020

Texas exempts religious private schools from reopening guidelines

Source: The Hill

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) said Friday that private schools are exempt from having to follow local health restrictions regarding school openings. Paxton said in an open letter to religious private institutions that forcing such schools to comply with local reopening guidelines would be unconstitutional.

“Under the Governor’s orders, local governments are prohibited from closing religious institutions or dictating mitigation strategies to those institutions,” Paxton wrote. “Local governments are similarly prohibited from issuing blanket orders closing religious private schools. Because a local order closing a religious private school or institution is inconsistent with the Governor’s order, any local order is invalid to the extent it purports to do so.

“Moreover, local public health orders attempting to restrict the provision of religious instruction through religious private schools violate the United States and Texas Constitutions and the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act," he added.

“Thus, as protected by the First Amendment and Texas law, religious private schools may continue to determine when it is safe for their communities to resume in-person instruction free from any government mandate or interference. Religious private schools therefore need not comply with local public health orders to the contrary,” Paxton concluded.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/507952-texas-exempts-religious-private-schools-from-reopening-guidelines

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Texas exempts religious private schools from reopening guidelines (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2020 OP
Let them inhale viruses milestogo Jul 2020 #1
Just giving them the opportunity to prove their Lord and Savior Trump right about the hoax thing... Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #2
And they want to exempt these thugs from possible lawsuits when students and others get sick... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #3
To quote Tom Lehrer DFW Jul 2020 #4
Why "save the children"? So they can spawn some more? Definition of children - up to 21? erronis Jul 2020 #14
Save the children because they were indoctrinated unwillingly DFW Jul 2020 #16
I understand and was being a bit too flippant. But the question remains, when do these "children" erronis Jul 2020 #17
But that 73 year old was not indoctrinated by the state. He was emotionally damaged by his father DFW Jul 2020 #25
Not to quibble, but 74-year-old. NT raccoon Jul 2020 #27
Total moron as even the 1st amendment has some limitations for everyone including cstanleytech Jul 2020 #5
When this is all said and done, if it ever is, they will realize bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #6
That's what trump was proposing. Inject bleach, swallow his drugs, spray disinfectant in the lungs. erronis Jul 2020 #15
Onward, Christian soldiers soothsayer Jul 2020 #7
so, if someone decides to cook some meth in a religious private school is a ok with the Texas AG? yaesu Jul 2020 #8
Hey, whatever... paleotn Jul 2020 #9
Make believe (religion) trumps reality yet again in the land of the god botherers. stopbush Jul 2020 #10
As long as they keep to themselves. Dem2theMax Jul 2020 #11
Unconstitutional? ananda Jul 2020 #12
TX constitution. n/t Igel Jul 2020 #22
Our politicians in Texas are big on religion and stupid on law. Lonestarblue Jul 2020 #13
They gonna pray the virus away? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 #18
Key word here isn't "close" but "force." Igel Jul 2020 #23
God will protect them, who needs science! BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #19
I was wondering when that was going to happen. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2020 #20
Might help cull the herd of religious morons mdbl Jul 2020 #21
There is an assumption amcgrath Jul 2020 #24
I agree 100% with that policy. Let's see if their god protects them. Nitram Jul 2020 #26

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
3. And they want to exempt these thugs from possible lawsuits when students and others get sick...
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:59 PM
Jul 2020

and/or die from the CV possibly.

If I were the parents of children going to a private school, I'd think twice about sending the kids, being that it's possible that the school will have immunity and thus don't care if kids and/or others get sick, they won't get sued as a result, which is one important reason to have remedies available via the courts, in case such things happen (kids / others get sick due to sloppy procedures or worst).

DFW

(54,302 posts)
4. To quote Tom Lehrer
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jul 2020

„We‘d rather kill them off by peaceful means.“

I hope the „religious“ people are all denied care when they come down with the virus. Save the children when possible, but let their would-be educators-killers ask their diety for forgiveness as their lungs slowly turn to wet sponge.

erronis

(15,185 posts)
14. Why "save the children"? So they can spawn some more? Definition of children - up to 21?
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:20 PM
Jul 2020

Let the parents that have these children take care of them - no matter what.

Unless they are willing to give up all parental rights and declare themselves as unfit. Which would be accurate.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
16. Save the children because they were indoctrinated unwillingly
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:29 PM
Jul 2020

A friend of my wife’s parents was in the Hitler Youth at age 10 when the war ended. All German boys his age were by that time. He said they were never given a chance to think for themselves or know better. It’s the same with children of the God Squad in the USA. If they never had a chance to think for themselves, they deserve at least that before writing them off.

erronis

(15,185 posts)
17. I understand and was being a bit too flippant. But the question remains, when do these "children"
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:39 PM
Jul 2020

start to become adults and be held accountable?

I'm not expecting an answer since no society has a single definition of adulthood.

At least one, not very successful, experiment had all children become property of the "state"at birth, so the state took full responsibility for their lives (and deaths).

In the USofA (for example), there are 73 year old men who wield incredible power and who are totally irresponsible.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
25. But that 73 year old was not indoctrinated by the state. He was emotionally damaged by his father
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jul 2020

Our Hitler Youth friend grew up to be a successful local manager of a bicycle factory who was locally known for being an efficient, compassionate, understanding employer.

He used to tell me that unless you have been completely indoctrinated as he was, it is impossible to imagine what it is like to see every belief pounded into you since birth revealed to be an evil lie--that you were nothing more than a convenient tool for heartless propagandists.

As sort of a sequel, the daughter of some German friends of ours, born in 1985, once told me that the worst thing the Nazis did to her was to rob her of the right to be proud of her country and her culture. Today's generation seems to have finally escaped this, but the wounds to the national psyche lasted for several generations, and the pockets of neo-Nazi youth show that the evil can be studied and re-learned.

Most Trumpanzees, I am rather confident, do not travel extensively abroad, and when they do, they rarely speak the languages of the countries they visit. If they did, they would learn, as did our old ex-Hitler Youth friend, that all the crap that Fox "News" and National Hate Radio had been pounding into their heads was just as much of an evil lie as anything Göbbels had ever thought up.

cstanleytech

(26,250 posts)
5. Total moron as even the 1st amendment has some limitations for everyone including
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jul 2020

religious institutions.
For example they cannot tell people how and when to firebomb a Planned Parenthood center (though I am willing to bet they wish they could) nor can their clergy engage in collecting certain items like child porn as that is not protected by the 1st amendment.

erronis

(15,185 posts)
15. That's what trump was proposing. Inject bleach, swallow his drugs, spray disinfectant in the lungs.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:22 PM
Jul 2020

Hell, even mustard gas would be quicker than killing them through negligence and (r)epuglicon cowardice.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
8. so, if someone decides to cook some meth in a religious private school is a ok with the Texas AG?
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jul 2020

because, hey, stopping it violates the United States and Texas Constitutions.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
9. Hey, whatever...
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:38 PM
Jul 2020

They want to turn their religious schools into petri dishes, so be it. Thin out that herd.

Dem2theMax

(9,645 posts)
11. As long as they keep to themselves.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jul 2020

They need to remove the 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you' from their curriculum.

They care about no one but themselves.

------> Jesus

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
13. Our politicians in Texas are big on religion and stupid on law.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jul 2020

Governor, Lt. Governor, and AG all trying to kill people with the virus. I’ve always thought that too much religion rots the brain. They’re living proof.

Igel

(35,282 posts)
23. Key word here isn't "close" but "force."
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jul 2020

It's not the case that unless forced at gunpoint schools won't generally do what's best for their students.

The point is that the health officials--who may or may not take very local conditions into account--can't (per Paxton) compel a private religious school to close. Nobody's saying they can't or won't close.

BigmanPigman

(51,570 posts)
19. God will protect them, who needs science!
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:29 PM
Jul 2020

And to follow up on that theory, no medical help for you and your family when they get sick. I am sure they are fine with that deal (until they get sick). No insurance, no help either...sorry.

20. I was wondering when that was going to happen.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jul 2020

Only plebeians send their kids to public schools. There are always different rules for the privileged class.

amcgrath

(397 posts)
24. There is an assumption
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jul 2020

That this means that Christian schools will be reopening as Trump wishes. But the obvious alternative to this, is that seeing the actual health data, Christian schools will be able to close without penalty, while public schools risk defunding by closing.

The other problem with this of course, is that religious groups are sometimes allowed exemptions to rules based on their religious teachings and beliefs. Where in the bible, are christians ordered to ignore health advisories that impact and will harm others in their community?

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