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packman

(16,296 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:24 AM Jul 2020

Guess Who Invited The Federal Agents Into Portland? The Police Union

Source: Crooks and Liars

Trump's show of force in Portland, of all places, is not giving him the great campaign clips he wanted. Instead, the protests are growing, and now it looks like the police unions are lobbying directly for the federal intervention -- probably because cops are so pissed off by the "defund police" movement that they want to retaliate with chaos in the streets. Via the Daily Beast:

Although Portland leadership roundly decried the federal presence, the president of Portland’s police union met with the head of the Department of Homeland Security last week to discuss the agents, apparently without the knowledge of the city’s police chief. The president of Chicago’s police union made his own envoys, asking Trump for federal intervention.

Trump might have heard him: 150 federal agents with Homeland Security Investigations are gearing up to head to the city, the Chicago Tribune first reported. Either way, protesters say local cops and the feds are clearly colluding

Read more: https://crooksandliars.com/2020/07/guess-who-invited-federal-agents-portland



Police unions asking for Federal troops and now Chicago PU (article states Philadelphia's FOP is asking for troops also) getting involved? This is not going to end well with local law and fed's working hand-in-hand with Trump admiration of dictators. If state militias put their hands into this toxic stew, what is left?
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Guess Who Invited The Federal Agents Into Portland? The Police Union (Original Post) packman Jul 2020 OP
There ain't nothing like getting paid and having other people do your dirty work for you bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #1
Furlough 150 local police and the union head Captain Zero Jul 2020 #4
Brilliant! BlueIdaho Jul 2020 #16
Second that!! and Sue their pants off so they don't pull this stunt again. onetexan Jul 2020 #17
Police Unions are a huge part of the problem, they are the ones pushing white nationalism. lark Jul 2020 #2
I can imagine that these police unions are led by macho white males who feel threatened by society.. DSandra Jul 2020 #20
What right do the police unions have to ask for anything? bullimiami Jul 2020 #3
They have NO AUTHORITY to do that. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #11
+1 K&R onetexan Jul 2020 #18
They're admitting they are too weak to handle peaceful protesters. CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #5
There is so many bad cops out there in the news. dustyscamp Jul 2020 #6
No one in the police union has standing to invite federal forces into the city. beastie boy Jul 2020 #7
It needs to happen. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #10
Do what Ronald Reagan would do. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #8
Mayor Lightfoot was interviewed on msnbc last night and said that an fop president has no legal Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #9
Yep LeftInTX Jul 2020 #12
The leader of the Chicago police union did the same. Progressive Jones Jul 2020 #13
was confused about their identity so I Googled it... BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #14
I'm no fan of the Portland Police Association, but nothing in this article supports the headline. swag Jul 2020 #15
This is Mutiny DSandra Jul 2020 #19

onetexan

(13,033 posts)
17. Second that!! and Sue their pants off so they don't pull this stunt again.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:31 PM
Jul 2020

As i've posted on another thread, DA's in Dem-controlled cities should serve notice that any militia agent sent in by a federal agency will be arrested and charged. This fascist crap must stop.

lark

(23,083 posts)
2. Police Unions are a huge part of the problem, they are the ones pushing white nationalism.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jul 2020

They are where the real racists abide dug in deep to keep racism flowing. This is the group that needs defunding and disallowed, they are the enemies in way too many cases, including Portland, Chicago and Philadelphia. The chief of polices/mayors need to take a stand and fire these asses encouraging illegal strong man tactics against minorities and liberals.

DSandra

(999 posts)
20. I can imagine that these police unions are led by macho white males who feel threatened by society..
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 05:25 AM
Jul 2020

questioning them and trying to take away their power. They see Trump as their savior.

bullimiami

(13,083 posts)
3. What right do the police unions have to ask for anything?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jul 2020

They shuold be charged in a RICO conspiracy to interfere with governmental operation.

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
11. They have NO AUTHORITY to do that.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:28 PM
Jul 2020

They are not the elected by the public officials who direct the police who are public servants... at least on paper.

So they have no legal authority to invite anyone to engage in such "operations" anywhere.


CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
5. They're admitting they are too weak to handle peaceful protesters.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jul 2020

Also, beating middle-age moms is a poor visual for the MSM to show. "We'll outsource this to federal psychopaths."

beastie boy

(9,283 posts)
7. No one in the police union has standing to invite federal forces into the city.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jul 2020

They are all employees of the City of Portland, ultimately reporting to the city's Mayor, and I am sure their contract doesn't allow them to meddle in the City's governance. If this is true, it is a blatant case of insubordination, punishable by loss of rank, employment, benefits and/or city's pension. Not sure if criminal charges can be brought against them, but it's quite possible.

LiberalFighter

(50,836 posts)
10. It needs to happen.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:14 PM
Jul 2020

Personally, I don't consider them to have a union. They refer themselves as an association.

And I get peeved when I receive calls from their group for donations. Why the hell should I make any donations to them? None of the other labor unions make calls to private citizens asking for donations. They get paid enough for their job. They get good benefits than most people. I did some research and found out they also use that money to lobby.

I also get peeved when police cars are used for their funerals. They are using government vehicles for private use.

Thekaspervote

(32,751 posts)
9. Mayor Lightfoot was interviewed on msnbc last night and said that an fop president has no legal
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:21 AM
Jul 2020

right to ask for the federal government to step in. She also said as far as Chicago goes the city police are not for wanna be goons on their streets

LeftInTX

(25,211 posts)
12. Yep
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jul 2020

Are the PU private entities?
They aren't exactly local government, although police departments are...

Do PU need to work with local government before making this type of decision.

I still don't know exactly why the feds aren't kicked out of Portland property. (Although they have a right to be on federal property on federal buildings...which is like a few buildings

______________________

ETA: I somehow landed on Ted Cruz's FB page last night. He posted how Mpls has descended into anarchy due to the Democrats and that Democrats supports riots and destruction. He had hundreds of posters agreeing with him. They were not bots either, but actually constituents in Texas.

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ME: Didn't you support the Bundy gang? You know that ones that broke all sorts of laws while on federal land?
Democrats are not facilitating and cheering these protests. The feds belong on federal property. Feds have a right to protect federal property, but no one invited them to roam the streets of Portland except a police union and Donald Trump

Other: The Democratic Party will be the death of the USA, as it’s being shown all over the country. And the Democrats still allow the rioting to occur. It should happen to you and yours!

Me: You should get taken out by the Bundy Gang, Ted's heros!

Other: LMAO; coming from your lack of education or too much of Liberal teachings.

Other: Come and get me. The ones that do, will have a quick Death!

Other: Why are you even on Sen Cruz site if you’re against him. Usual sick people

Other: Cause shes a pathetic Democratic troll

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
13. The leader of the Chicago police union did the same.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 06:23 PM
Jul 2020

He's not very well liked by the people of Chicago as it is.
My cop buddy says he's a "jagoff".

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
14. was confused about their identity so I Googled it...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 07:01 PM
Jul 2020

was confused about their identity so I Googled it...
The article from an Oregon paper said the police are working with the feds then they said they weren't. I couldn't figure it out since they were contradicting each other.

Evidence shows Portland police working with federal officers at protests, contradicting city officials
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/evidence-shows-portland-police-working-with-federal-officers-at-protests-contradicting-city-officials.html

swag

(26,486 posts)
15. I'm no fan of the Portland Police Association, but nothing in this article supports the headline.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jul 2020

DSandra

(999 posts)
19. This is Mutiny
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 05:22 AM
Jul 2020

The police unions are subverting the police chief and elected leaders, they have no right to do this.

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