Body found in wreckage of pawnshop burned during George Floyd unrest

[question everything]

Source: StarTribune

Authorities found the charred body of a man in the wreckage of a south Minneapolis pawnshop, nearly two months after the building was torched in the rioting that followed George Floyd’s death.

Investigators from the Minneapolis Police Department, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the state fire marshal’s division were acting on a tip when they discovered the body Monday morning in the rubble of Max It Pawn, at 2726 E. Lake St., according to Police Department spokesman John Elder.

“The body appears to have suffered thermal injury and we do have somebody charged with setting fire to that place,” said Elder, adding that city homicide detectives had taken over the investigation. He said that the victim’s identity would be released by medical examiners after an autopsy is completed, along with the precise cause and manner of death.

The site is several blocks east of the shuttered Third Precinct police station, the epicenter of the protests that broke out after Floyd’s death May 25 under the knee of a since-fired city police officer. Details about the circumstances and timeline of the case remained hazy Monday, but a police news release suggested that the man died in the blaze that destroyed the building on May 28.


Read more: https://www.startribune.com/body-found-in-wreckage-of-mpls-pawn-shop-burned-during-george-floyd-unrest/571838681/

[soothsayer]

1. Oh no

That’s awful

[madaboutharry]

2. That is so tragic.

Arson is a terrible crime and it could easily end in murder.

[MichMan]

3. The alleged arsonist Montez Lee needs to be charged with murder

[OneCrazyDiamond]

4. Flames and projectiles do not make for peaceful protests.

No one benefits from the arsonist's actions.

[The Mouth]

5. shhhh

any criticism of rioters is verboten unless it can be proved that they are agents provocateurs.

[Devil Child]

7. Ain't that the truth!

[question everything]

15. +1

[OneCrazyDiamond]

19. There is a difference between rioters, and protesters.

Burning buildings is not petitioning the Government for a redress of grievances....Even if they are Government buildings.

[Igel]

23. Yes and no.

One can easily transform into the other within seconds.

I show you a picture of a person just standing there and you can't tell me if the person's a protester or a rioter. I film the protester as he goes down the street, then as he breaks a window or hits somebody with a brick and then resumes going down the street ... you see the first minute, "protestor"; you see the second minute, "rioter"; you see the third minute, "protestor." It's a person in either case. You need to see actions before you apply a label.

The labels are basically "person" + "action"; they're deverbal nouns, agentive nouns. It's like my wife's photocopier-printer. Now it's a photocopier. Now it's a printer. Which is it at any given moment? Depends on what it's doing. It's a machine that prints, it's a machine that photocopies.

People are multifunctional. A protester is a person who protests; a rioter is a person who riots.

[JonLP24]

25. Not every protestor is a rioter

[OneCrazyDiamond]

28. I hear you.

In this case, if it is proved the body died as a result of the arson, there is no going back.

[JonLP24]

24. How often are the protests peaceful and how rare is the rioting?

This subthread is unbelievable. Trump & police are brutally suppressing protests. Unidentified federal troops. Even Biden is to the left of DU when he talks about protestors.

Biden accuses Trump of 'egregious tactics' in Portland protest crackdown

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24N01U

I'm sure Republicans agree with your post.

[IronLionZion]

6. I'm sure the Minneapolis police are doing a bang up job investigating this

except for the crimes of their own officers who were seen smashing property and abusing people for no reason.

[Mister Ed]

8. Whataboutism

The crimes of MPD members do not in any way mitigate this crime of murder.

[IronLionZion]

9. And it in no way impacts how they investigate crimes either, right?

They completely failed to protect the city during the riots and chose to abuse the wrong people instead of arresting the people starting fires and smashing things

[Mister Ed]

10. They did indeed do those things.

And it's probably true that they're selective in their investigative efforts.

It's also true that an innocent man has been killed. No one should lose sight of that.

[IronLionZion]

12. I want justice for the innocent man who was murdered in the fire

but I believe the police are responsible for this crime too, yet they won't be held accountable

[Mister Ed]

13. Then you and I are of like mind. n/t

[LanternWaste]

20. What leads you to believe anyone is losing sight of the victim?

[Mister Ed]

21. Perhaps I misunderstood the poster.

The poster and I have reached understanding, as seen above.

[Brainfodder]

11. No mention of the obvious victim, since.... ummm..... missing 2 months?

[RhodeIslandOne]

14. Good chance it was a homeless person.

Society's forgotten.

[LisaL]

18. Or it could be someone reported missing.

If it's an adult, I don't think police will look very hard for them, unless they have a reason to suspect foul play. Adults have a right to go "missing" and a lot of times they have just left and went somewhere else.

[OneCrazyDiamond]

29. It may be longer.

They will have to establish a timeline and cause of death to tie it to the arson. It could be the building owner killed someone and hid the body for years.

[intheflow]

16. Okay, maybe I've watched too many tv mysteries,

but the first thing that I thought was that if someone wanted to kill someone, it would be really tempting to take advantage of the riots to kill the person, toss their body in a building, and torch the building. The fact that it happened so far away from the main protests is strange. And it's even stranger that no one's reported this person missing.
:tinfoil:

[RhodeIslandOne]

17. I believe there was a 9/11 case related to that

No one threw a body in the rubble, but claimed they died in the WTC to disappear.

[oldsoftie]

22. There were actually DOZENS like that. Here's the report:

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/nyregion/separating-fakes-from-9-11-victims.html

[Skittles]

27. every arsonist is a would-be murderer

they can never know if there are people inside

fuck them all