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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 10:57 AM Jul 2020

Killings of Police Officers Are Up 28% So Far in 2020: Reports

Source: Law & Crime

The killing of a Washington State police officer on July 13 marked the death of the 32nd U.S. law enforcement officer in 2020 — a year which has seen violent protests in the wake of the death of George Floyd and a 28% increase in “felonious officer deaths over the same period in 2019.” That’s according to ABC News, which cited a review of FBI data. Seven of those 32 officers were “ambushed,” the report says.

Accompanying the cries for police reform in the wake of Floyd’s death “was a rise in an anti-police sentiment that, experts say, manifested itself in attacks on officers, patrol vehicles and precinct stationhouses, leaving cops around the country feeling under siege,” ABC said.

It is unclear to some experts whether correlation necessarily means causation: though the Floyd death and the spike in officer deaths are temporally related, a professor of political science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York told ABC that it is probably too early to draw a direct link between the two data points.

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ABC’s review found that police killings this year were “primarily . . . linked to traffic stops and responses to domestic violence calls,” but that “FBI data doesn’t directly link the slayings to . . . civil unrest or anti-police rhetoric.”

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/police/killings-of-police-officers-are-up-28-so-far-in-2020-reports/

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Killings of Police Officers Are Up 28% So Far in 2020: Reports (Original Post) Calista241 Jul 2020 OP
Disturbing.. Hip2bSquare Jul 2020 #1
That last part made the entire article worthless IMHO n/t JustFiveMoreMinutes Jul 2020 #17
Horrible. AND, no statistics included about how many people the police have killed. flibbitygiblets Jul 2020 #2
Bingo Fibbi DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #3
Probably an order of magnitude of difference. christx30 Jul 2020 #6
Around 506 civilians killed by police as of 6/30/2020... Deuce Jul 2020 #5
But how many of those were shooting at the police? nt EX500rider Jul 2020 #14
The vast majority are armed. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #15
Trust me, a lot of them DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #19
"Trust" your made up fact? lol nt EX500rider Jul 2020 #20
OK DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #21
Has it ever happened, sure, does that mean all cops have a thrown down? No. EX500rider Jul 2020 #22
when you have a fascist dictator backed by 2/3rds fascist government and they spread hate and chaos yaesu Jul 2020 #4
the police officer cited in the opening sentence; Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2020 #7
"Friendly fire" -- and sometimes not so friendly. Nt lostnfound Jul 2020 #13
Domestic abuse and bad gun laws JT45242 Jul 2020 #8
Well, if cops would just obey the law, this wouldn't happen... Aristus Jul 2020 #9
I've seen that posted on FB so many times. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #16
In Arizona Gilbert Moore Jul 2020 #10
Several years ago ... jb5150 Jul 2020 #11
Rookie Jonathan Shoop was accidentally shot by his own field training officer IronLionZion Jul 2020 #12
There are so many jobs far more hazardous stillcool Jul 2020 #18

Hip2bSquare

(291 posts)
1. Disturbing..
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jul 2020

I am somewhat grateful to that last part, “FBI data doesn’t directly link the slayings to . . . civil unrest or anti-police rhetoric". Definitely not the answer to combat police brutality. However, I definitely can understand the increase in domestic violence. People are stuck at home, losing income, possibly headed towards eviction! Tempers and emotions are growing. It's a tough time. I hate police brutality, but definitely don't want to see police killed.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
2. Horrible. AND, no statistics included about how many people the police have killed.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:40 AM
Jul 2020

I think that would help frame the story more fully.

DENVERPOPS

(8,806 posts)
3. Bingo Fibbi
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:43 AM
Jul 2020

my exact thoughts.

Number of innocent people killed by Police vs police killed........

Now THAT would be a revealing comparison......

christx30

(6,241 posts)
6. Probably an order of magnitude of difference.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jul 2020

But as long as “more whites are killed than blacks” it’s not a big deal to anyone in charge.

oldsoftie

(12,527 posts)
15. The vast majority are armed.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jul 2020

I saw this on FB & someone actually posted "well they know its dangerous when they sign up"

EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
22. Has it ever happened, sure, does that mean all cops have a thrown down? No.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:14 PM
Jul 2020

Plus there is usually enough video evidence from dash cams, street cams, body cams etc.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
4. when you have a fascist dictator backed by 2/3rds fascist government and they spread hate and chaos
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:48 AM
Jul 2020

shit happens

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,563 posts)
7. the police officer cited in the opening sentence;
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jul 2020

turns out to have been shot by the other officer on the scene...……..

JT45242

(2,260 posts)
8. Domestic abuse and bad gun laws
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jul 2020

If you talk to an honest cop -- he or she will tell you that the scariest calls are domestic violence calls. They are the most likely to end up with a dead officer.

Usually it is called in by a neighbor (not the victim, who is often to scared to stand up for themselves). Which means it was (a) loud enough that they heard it and (b) scary enough that they called the police or (c) frequent enough that they knew it was coming.

Throw in lax gun laws including (R) and NRA fights against taking guns from domestic abusers (the most likely group to commit homicide) and you have a recipe for disaster.

To that mix -- add Covid lockdowns which limit the separation of abuser and victim. No trips to the bar to get his fight on. No spending 8-12 hours at work. No hanging with his buds (I know I am stereoptying, but overwhelmingly these abusers who use guns and kill cops are men with histories of violence). Plus the neighbors also locked down hearing the abuse over and over again. And, no easy way to run to a shelter because the abuser is there 24/7.

What do you have -- increased deaths to cops and to domestic violence victims.

oldsoftie

(12,527 posts)
16. I've seen that posted on FB so many times.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jul 2020

My comeback is usually posting stories about deaths of people where no-knock warrants were served at the WRONG HOUSE
"What law did he/she break?"
Usually no response

Gilbert Moore

(218 posts)
10. In Arizona
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jul 2020

an officer shoots a civvy every 5 days. . . 73 a year. ONE state.

I am extremely sympathetic of safety of police. I had a cuz who was gunned down in the line of duty. Yet if we look at statistics, if someone brings them up, we have a duty to look at the bigger picture.

From the FBI, in 2019 in all of the USA, there were 89 law enforcement officers were killed in line-of-duty incidents in 2019. Of these, 48 officers died as a result of felonious acts, and 41 officers died in accidents.

jb5150

(1,178 posts)
11. Several years ago ...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jul 2020

there was an incident where a police officer dumped a paralyzed man out of his wheelchair. After that, I stopped giving a shit about police officers.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
18. There are so many jobs far more hazardous
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jul 2020

then police work, but you'd never know it. Until they started working alongside work crews, I didn't hear about anyone that died while doing that. Now it's major freak-out time. I don't understand why they have taken over those jobs. Far too dangerous for them. Or maybe they need tanks to do it safely.

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