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brooklynite

(94,384 posts)
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:13 PM Jul 2020

Kudlow: GOP plan will include 'increased business deductions for meals and entertainment'

Source: The Hill

White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said Monday that the forthcoming coronavirus relief package from Republicans will include "increased business deductions for meals and entertainment."

Kudlow mentioned the plan for a provision on business meals in an interview with Fox Business Network, but did not provide specifics. Senate Republicans are expected to unveil their proposal in the coming hours.

Currently, taxpayers can only deduct 50 percent of the cost of business meals, and they cannot deduct entertainment expenses.

Boosting business tax breaks for meals and entertainment has been a priority for President Trump. He pushed the idea earlier this year after speaking with well-known chef Wolfgang Puck.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/509210-kudlow-gop-plan-will-include-increased-business-deductions-for-meals-and

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Kudlow: GOP plan will include 'increased business deductions for meals and entertainment' (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2020 OP
No fucking way. If Dems cave on this.....ugh! Freethinker65 Jul 2020 #1
But don't help teachers out in getting supplies for the classrooms exboyfil Jul 2020 #2
Not Marie... CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #9
adultere, chain smoker, and amphetamine abuser DBoon Jul 2020 #17
Well, nobody's perfect. CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #27
That will never fly in the house Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #3
How many "Let them eat cake" moments can they have? AleksS Jul 2020 #4
Alongside the cut in unemployment benefit from $600 to $200? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #5
This is one of the most abused deductions that are out there, and thus, there are reasons why the... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #6
The max limit on entertainment will be $130,000. CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #7
Yeah. That'll help. jmowreader Jul 2020 #8
Well the sports is opening back up underpants Jul 2020 #12
They have to: the menu prices at Mar-A-Lago keep going up! Fritz Walter Jul 2020 #10
Oh like that is going to solve a pandemic problem...................they are fucking idiots......... turbinetree Jul 2020 #11
Leavin' out Main Street again. The losses of jobs and businesses will largely continue.. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #13
The grift and theft are strong with Kudlow and others in this administration. LonePirate Jul 2020 #14
Wait A Second ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #15
Not all operating expenses are deductible for tax stopwastingmymoney Jul 2020 #30
Thanks ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #32
So forget teachers and health care workers IronLionZion Jul 2020 #16
Wolfgang Puck may be an excellent chef DBoon Jul 2020 #18
Let's bring back the 5 martini lunch. Marie Marie Jul 2020 #19
That would make a great ad against them duforsure Jul 2020 #20
Obviously trying to support the strip club industry... BlueIdaho Jul 2020 #21
I did accounts payable for a small company. . . Collimator Jul 2020 #22
proof... noneof_theabove Jul 2020 #25
WTF?????? stopbush Jul 2020 #23
I think Kudlow is looking to be the new Ghouliani BadGimp Jul 2020 #24
yes...very helpful for those who serve the meals... dhill926 Jul 2020 #26
Supply and Demand Gilbert Moore Jul 2020 #28
DAMN him! calimary Jul 2020 #29
Is even Kudlow reading the writing on the wall? Retrograde Jul 2020 #31

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. But don't help teachers out in getting supplies for the classrooms
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jul 2020

I never knew they would take Marie Antoinette as a model.

Nothing like a federally subsidized lobster dinner.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
17. adultere, chain smoker, and amphetamine abuser
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

Treated for lung cancer later in life under her married name because she was covered by medicare

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
4. How many "Let them eat cake" moments can they have?
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:17 PM
Jul 2020

Geez.

Could they be any more tone-deaf?

Not that it matters; their cult doesn’t care. But still, in France they’d have been greasing the guillotines long before now!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,272 posts)
5. Alongside the cut in unemployment benefit from $600 to $200?
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jul 2020

Wow, they really do want to lose the election, don't they?

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
6. This is one of the most abused deductions that are out there, and thus, there are reasons why the...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:20 PM
Jul 2020

IRS cracked down on these types of deductions (because of the abuse).

Easy enough to fudge these numbers anyway (for meals or entertainment, etc.) and the IRS thus put in guidelines to help handle the proper reporting of these types of expenses.

I guess rump is pissed off that he couldn't or illegally wrote off his deductions for strip girls under a different category since he couldn't claim the entire $130K expense under Entertainment before.

jmowreader

(50,533 posts)
8. Yeah. That'll help.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:21 PM
Jul 2020

Cute and bizarre idea: The Republican Party is unable to do anything unless it has a tax cut in it. I am pretty sure that if they were to order pizzas, it’d be like “one pepperoni, one cheese, one Hawaiian and one tax cut, please.”

So if we HAVE to cut taxes, why not restore the deduction for non-mortgage interest?

underpants

(182,634 posts)
12. Well the sports is opening back up
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jul 2020

No you can’t entertain there in person but what if you booked a fancy steak house and watched a game from there. Huh? That’s right. BINGO BABY!

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
10. They have to: the menu prices at Mar-A-Lago keep going up!
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jul 2020

Not to mention the hotel in DC!

I'm afraid to ask what constitutes "entertainment" in their relief package.

turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
11. Oh like that is going to solve a pandemic problem...................they are fucking idiots.........
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jul 2020

talk about gas lighting...................close to 40 million human being unemployed so of them are going to be hitting the total end of that Frances Perkins created benefit pretty soon and some will have nothing, not even a pot to piss in, and this shit for brains wants to talk about a food break for business expenses............JFC................

November 3, 2020 and January 21, 2021 cannot get here fast enough..............

ProfessorGAC

(64,885 posts)
15. Wait A Second
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jul 2020

The budgets I used to get included travel, meals & entertainment as a line item.
That makes them expenses.
Operating expenses, S,G,&A are the thing deducted from revenues to show operating income/profit.
So, those dollars are not taxed in the first place. Why would there be any sort of deduction for dollars spent that aren't taxed?

stopwastingmymoney

(2,041 posts)
30. Not all operating expenses are deductible for tax
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 11:53 PM
Jul 2020

Meals are 50% and entertainment is no longer allowed. IIRC the entertainment expense was disallowed in the tax bill that took affect for 2018.

So you would see those on a Profit/Loss statement but they’re adjusted for tax returns.



IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
16. So forget teachers and health care workers
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:45 PM
Jul 2020

and I'm not sure this is going to help many restaurants either. Maybe the Wolfgang Puck types, but probably not many small independent restaurants.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
18. Wolfgang Puck may be an excellent chef
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jul 2020

but his needs and the needs of 99% of Americans do not exactly coincide

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
19. Let's bring back the 5 martini lunch.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jul 2020

Let's all do it at a Trump Hotel. This what is important to them???

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
20. That would make a great ad against them
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:20 PM
Jul 2020

Then show how he's stiffing the american people , like he does to his contractors.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
22. I did accounts payable for a small company. . .
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:38 PM
Jul 2020

That was owned by a couple where they and their two adult children held major positions.

The company credit card bills were rife with restaurant charges marked with the standard "M&E". So, yeah, any family dinner out could be marked as meals and entertainment since they undoubtedly discussed the business as part of any get together.

Meanwhile, I was fielding calls from vendors of our major supplies needed to produce our product line. They weren't about to send us any more of their products while they were waiting on payments for orders of months past.

They eventually fired the CFO and blamed him for all sorts of problems. Part of the money crunch was that they had expanded their business which increased overhead expenses and it was taking some time before the new locations were showing a profit.

But the bosses never stepped back their spending. They kept dining at the best places, buying items from high end catalogs because those could provide "design inspiration" for their own product line and using warehouse facilities and the company account to ship personal items.

The cleaning staff was let go; production workers directed to clean their own restrooms and then the production staff was pared back, little by little.The CFO was let go in part because he wanted to keep the morale building perks like pizza Fridays.

But hey, "Meals and Entertainment" was just a necessary part of doing business. Other companies unwilling to provide us their products until they got checks for outstanding invoices didn't seem to send up any alarm signals.

The basic rule of business regarding "Pay yourself first" may protect one's bank account, but does it really guarantee a successful business?

noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
25. proof...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:51 PM
Jul 2020

attach picture of those attending the M&E

attach copy of the contract for above M&E

If not hang the up in the lobby by their tie for theft or the next person to see

dhill926

(16,317 posts)
26. yes...very helpful for those who serve the meals...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:17 PM
Jul 2020

and provide the entertainment. Fucking assholes...tie this around their fucking necks...

Gilbert Moore

(217 posts)
28. Supply and Demand
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 07:10 PM
Jul 2020

So I buy a ticket to. . . a ballgame. It's a $50 seat, which is pretty decent. The small biz owner brings her husband and sit next to me. Right now they've paid the same as me with a 50% deduction. Any overpriced hot dogs, popcorn or soda is half off to them. Per Kudlow this deal will get even better.

By providing discounted everything to those who can deduct allows ballparks to keep their prices crazy high because many don't have to pay them. The family of 4 can go to a game a year if they are lucky.

Keeps getting worse.

calimary

(81,139 posts)
29. DAMN him!
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:42 PM
Jul 2020

MAN, the republi-CONS are now the Party of the "Free Stuff."

Business has received WAY more than its fair share of relief and attention. What about consumers? Homeowners? Renters? Students? Single heads-of-households? The working poor? The first responders? The sick? The poor?

How about all the people Jesus paid the most attention to, ie: THE POOR? The moneychangers were the ones He actually got mad at, and chased OUT of the Temple.

Retrograde

(10,130 posts)
31. Is even Kudlow reading the writing on the wall?
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jul 2020

IMHO, Trump's people are expecting to lose the Senate as well as the presidency, so I expect in the next 5 months they'll be stealing every break they can for their donors.

BTW, being able to deduct meals and entertainment at 100% means Trump can raise the rates at his hotels an resorts!

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