Some Biden allies wage a shadow campaign to stop Kamala Harris from becoming vice president

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Source: CNBC

Some of Joe Biden’s allies are waging a campaign behind the scenes to stop Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., from becoming his vice president.

This disgruntled group of at least a dozen Biden backers, including a few of his top donors, initiated the move against Harris close to a month ago, just weeks before a decision is expected, according to people with direct knowledge of the matter. Many who spoke to CNBC declined to be named as these efforts have been made in private.

In some cases, her foes have taken their concerns directly to members of Biden’s VP search committee, led by former Sen. Chris Dodd, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, Rep. Lisa Blunt Rochester, D-Del., and Cynthia Hogan, who previously served as counsel to the presumptive Democratic nominee when he was vice president under President Barack Obama.

Although none of these actions signify that Biden will drop Harris from the list, the movement gives a glimpse into the effort being waged to derail her candidacy.

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[mzmolly]

1. Fuck them.

Every one.

[PubliusEnigma]

2. They're too late. She's a shoe in.

And she'll be President one day, too.

[Laelth]

3. This does not shock me. n/t

-Laelth

[George II]

4. This article (not you, B.) is long on rumor and speculation, short on actual substance.

[still_one]

8. and it isn't the only one that has recently been posting these decisive views.

Huffington Post is pushing a divisive article how republicans hope Biden picks Susan Rice, so they can relive Benghazi

Some of the press is so full of themselves. There prognostic abilities are more wrong then right much of the time

[msongs]

5. speculation gossip and rumours analysis opinion piece. nt

[SheltieLover]

6. Why?

Why are they so against her?

I know it won't happen, but I'm hoping for Warren or Katie Porter.

[sweetloukillbot]

10. She's ambitious and African American

In other words uppity.

[SheltieLover]

31. 😳

I thought maybe she didn't do well in primaries.

[TreasonousBastard]

25. That's my question. Something's up-- it's never about the stated reasons. It's always about...

some darkness or power play.

Did she really piss some people off with that debate attack on Biden? Since Biden understands it's all part of the game, why should anyone else care?

Is this the last gasp of some Bernistas trying to derail the works?

We'll probably never know all the details, but whoever's behind it should be neutralized.

[FailureToCommunicate]

7. The "concerns" mentioned are laughable. Nothing

to see here. They all just want someone else.

[Bettie]

9. Another article about this

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/kamala-harris-vice-president-sexism/

But with the vice presidential selection finally around the corner, the conversation no longer sounds anything like progress. Instead, reporting on deliberations inside the campaign suggests their decision-making is being shaped by the same sexist concerns about women in leadership that helped keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House four years ago.

While it’s unclear if the accounts are accurate or present a complete picture, the story they tell is deflating, familiar, and harmful—that the campaign is distrustful of women who are ambitious or who otherwise display leadership traits that somehow don’t seem to bother people when exhibited by men.

They want a woman, just not that kind of woman. Sound familiar?

[mzmolly]

13. So we want more loyalty oaths?

We shouldn't want loyalty, as much as honesty and integrity.

Harris has no motive to be 'disloyal' given she and Biden are in agreement on the major issues.

[Bettie]

16. If she were a man

no one would be saying a single word, but women? Entirely different standard.

[mzmolly]

18. Exactly.

We want a strong, experienced man, but a loyal woman who knows her place?

Bullshit.

[sfstaxprep]

23. Except Mr. Biden Said Months Ago He Was Picking A Woman

I can't imagine they're complaining because Kamala is female. His entire list is Female.

[Bettie]

26. But, they don't like that she has a mind of her own and

isn't afraid to speak up.

They want a woman they perceive as compliant.

Whether she is or not is another question, but they want to believe she's compliant and knows how to do as she's told.

That isn't Kamala Harris.

But, if, as has been suggested, he's using a bunch of old white dudes to help him pick, that's what they're looking for: a quiet "biddable" woman.

[sfstaxprep]

28. Who On His List Is Afraid To Speak Up?

Elizabeth Warren?

Susan Rice?

Val Demings?

Stacey Abrams?

Who is this compliant Democratic Female on Biden's list?

[mzmolly]

30. I'd say all of those women are strong,

but Kamala exudes both strength and charisma.

I don't want someone who blends into the woodwork. I want a fighter - someone who goes for the political jugular. That's Harris.

[Bettie]

35. Some may be PERCEIVED as more compliant by

those who he has helping him, such as Dodd.

Warren is also "too ambitious"....even though a man will never be called too ambitious.

In men ambition is to be lauded. In women, it is a negative to many.

[mzmolly]

29. Right. Some want a woman who

'knows her place.'

I want a woman VP who can hold her own.

[Me.]

11. They're Right, She's No Pence Style Toe Licker

and that's not what we want or need. We need a strong Veep who can take over at a moment's notice if it ever comes to that and she is that person. Haven't we had enough of loyalty pledges? And let's be real, it would not be in her best interest to stab him in the back if he chooses her.

[Crowman2009]

12. I think these so-called allies should just retire from politics altogether.

We're here to united, not divide. So buh-bye to them!

[mzmolly]

32. Agree.

Milquetoast Democrats are not wanted or needed right now.

Bite me Dodd and Co.

[zentrum]

14. Their reasons are pathetic.

Their view seems sexist—like when a woman is strong, she's seen as strident. That kind of thing.

During the debate—everyone was trying to take out everyone else. It's a debate.

Like the way she questions Repug witnesses. We need that sharpness.

[Skittles]

15. yup

they the are the folk who say women don't get head because they are not aggressive enough, then say it is unbecoming for a woman to be aggressive....fuck them

[mzmolly]

33. This.

[paleotn]

20. We are not immune

Though I don't know the veracity of the article, I do know that sexist behavior knows no political boundaries. Although we don't have the critical mass the Republicans have, since most ass hats slid to their side years ago, they can still be found in Democratic circles. Harris is strong and smart and even today that scares the shit out of some people. But instead of taking it out on her, maybe they should examine why they're so easily scared in the first place...if their introspective enough to realize how fucked up that is. They're probably not, so we have to keep playing these fucked up, scardy man games. Ugh.

[Newest Reality]

17. I think...

I think that the fact that she is powerful, decisive and direct could make her seem to be a threat to some, yet we really would benefit from a person like here because of her motivation and capacity to project it.

[mzmolly]

34. Exactly.

Why on earth would anyone suggest otherwise?

Ugh.

[LudwigPastorius]

19. As reported by Brian Schwartz...

the former FOX news producer?

I'd be curious to know who Schwartz's source for this "Democrats are at each other's throats" story is.

Could it be...?

[onetexan]

21. Precisely. It would really surprise me if Joe ends up choosing someone else.

Much as i admire Susan Rice, Kamala can really work up a crowd & excite the base.

[delisen]

22. They want someone who will not run for president

And will not upset their particular applecarts. Her enemies are not revolutionaries and are itching to maintain male Dominance which has not served us well.

The vp slot is no longer an advantage in running for president. So many ambitious politicians
Will mount a challenge and many want to keep Oval Office male.

[sfstaxprep]

24. Except....

Joe could resign before the end of his 1st Term, and allow his VP to run as an Incumbent in 2024, which would be a Huge advantage for that person.

[pnwmom]

27. A brilliant, successful woman is too "ambitious" and "opportunistic." Gee, that's original.

[applegrove]

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