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Texas Lawyer

(350 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:46 AM Oct 2012

How Did Voters React to the Debate?

Source: ABC News (The Note blog)

When asked to describe their impressions of Romney, the women used words like “rude,” “pushy” and “assertive” – and when asked to clarify if assertive was positive or negative, the woman who offered that description said it was negative.
...
Several women expressed disappointment that abortion rights were not brought up, saying that they would have liked to hear the candidates talk about that issue in their own words, since they mostly just hear small snippets in commercials.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/how-did-voters-react-to-the-debate/

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How Did Voters React to the Debate? (Original Post) Texas Lawyer Oct 2012 OP
This debate was about the economy I thought? Isn't that why abortion wasn't brought up? still_one Oct 2012 #1
I thought the topic was with regards to domestic issues in general, Jamaal510 Oct 2012 #8
Wow, then that should have been brought up /nt still_one Oct 2012 #9
The plan was for it to be a domestic debate with certain questions asked tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #11
I thought it was suppose to be about domestic issues too, which means there spicegal Oct 2012 #33
Did Spit On-Me's likeability go up? tblue Oct 2012 #2
What happened to Politicalboi Oct 2012 #3
I think that's next skeewee08 Oct 2012 #5
Jim Lehrer had to live his finest hour, being the tool that he is. gtar100 Oct 2012 #24
Hey, I like that first part!! (rude, pushy, assertive...) ailsagirl Oct 2012 #4
That's the way he came across and not just to us. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #6
He might as well have put a lamp shade on his head and danced the Charleston ailsagirl Oct 2012 #20
Another article on the same topic: Group at Dole applies dials to Romney, Obama during debate Texas Lawyer Oct 2012 #7
Thanks for the encouraging post! ailsagirl Oct 2012 #21
I agree with Ailsagirl Liberalynn Oct 2012 #34
excellent! Maybe the truth is getting through at last wordpix Oct 2012 #40
So what set Romney apart as the winner in these women’s minds? Xipe Totec Oct 2012 #10
I liked what Romney had to say tonight ffr Oct 2012 #12
None because the know he's lying skeewee08 Oct 2012 #14
Right, it'll be the American people who will be crying... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #31
Very depressed tonight Jazzy_Obama Oct 2012 #13
Don't be there are 3 more quarters skeewee08 Oct 2012 #15
counting on O and Biden to lengthen lead in homestretch wordpix Oct 2012 #41
No Need To Be Depressed Shuhered Oct 2012 #19
Aww Thanks you guys Jazzy_Obama Oct 2012 #22
Totally Agree Jazzy Shuhered Oct 2012 #48
He wasn't just "looking down"--he was making notes on points he wanted to rebut from tblue37 Oct 2012 #30
Yes, but it did not look good, whathehell Oct 2012 #32
well some of us take the "lecturing Obama" as extremely disrespectful & entitled-looking wordpix Oct 2012 #42
Yeah, well "some of us" would include me and I don't really know what your point is. whathehell Oct 2012 #46
Watch it again on c-span... it's a whole different ballgame defacto7 Oct 2012 #26
He did come off looking better on C-Span. FailureToCommunicate Oct 2012 #39
I don't know who prepped Obama for this debate, but they should be fired. Fuddnik Oct 2012 #16
Obama should have just studied Clinton's speech. Kablooie Oct 2012 #18
"(Romney) has attempted to work across the aisle." Kablooie Oct 2012 #17
"Too late now to do anything about I now unless Obama can make a convincing case in the next debate" skeewee08 Oct 2012 #23
Dems in MA first agenda wasn't Rustycup Oct 2012 #35
Arghh! I couldn't believe my ears when that charlatan claimed ailsagirl Oct 2012 #36
We wanted him to STOP. Mr. Obama bent over backwards trying to be bipartisan. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #44
I know I'm repeating myself BUT... defacto7 Oct 2012 #25
I agree defacto7 skeewee08 Oct 2012 #27
No you're not. Thanks much for the link. nt progree Oct 2012 #29
I'm Waiting For The Retractions Tomorrow From The Romney Campaign DallasNE Oct 2012 #28
27 whoppers in 38 minutes. maddogesq Oct 2012 #47
Mitt the bully Blueprogress Oct 2012 #37
Welcome, Blueprogress! Many feel the same as you do. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #45
Jim Lehrer gets a lot of the blame from me. Pretending he could get specifics by posing the same Overseas Oct 2012 #38
Lehrer was terrible as the moderator in my opinion LibertyLover Oct 2012 #43

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
8. I thought the topic was with regards to domestic issues in general,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:01 AM
Oct 2012

and that there would be 3 segments dedicated to the economy.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
11. The plan was for it to be a domestic debate with certain questions asked
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:06 AM
Oct 2012

I don't think anyone could name even one of those questions now because Romney kept cutting Obama and Lehrer off to continue each question much longer than it should have gone on for.

spicegal

(758 posts)
33. I thought it was suppose to be about domestic issues too, which means there
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:25 AM
Oct 2012

was lots of territory not covered. Romney ran out the clock with nonsense, leaving no time for other issues.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
24. Jim Lehrer had to live his finest hour, being the tool that he is.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:43 AM
Oct 2012

If the world wasn't so skewed by money and self-interest, he would never be in the position he's in. Bias oozes from him. But in today's America, that's what republicans pay millions of dollars for. Substandard talent is a byproduct of being a sell-out.

ailsagirl

(24,287 posts)
4. Hey, I like that first part!! (rude, pushy, assertive...)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:51 AM
Oct 2012

Perhaps we're not the only ones who thought his behavior was abominable.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
6. That's the way he came across and not just to us.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:57 AM
Oct 2012

Let Willard run loose and show his real self. I enjoyed it. He was a real ass.

ailsagirl

(24,287 posts)
20. He might as well have put a lamp shade on his head and danced the Charleston
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:27 AM
Oct 2012

Not very presidential at all

Texas Lawyer

(350 posts)
7. Another article on the same topic: Group at Dole applies dials to Romney, Obama during debate
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:00 AM
Oct 2012
When Republican Mitt Romney said he would cut government funding to Public Broadcasting Service, a group of undecided and independent voters at the Dole Institute of Politics watching the first presidential debate moved their dials way down.
...
After the debate, Kansas University associate professor Mary Banwart asked the group members why they disapproved of Romney's verbal shot at PBS. "I thought that was a stupid move," Kathie Stovall of Lawrence said as others around the table nodded in agreement. Stovall said she supported PBS.

Banwart also noted that during the debate, the group seemed to grade Romney down the more aggressive he became in pointing out differences between himself and Obama, than they did when Obama did the same thing to Romney.

Elaine Grosser of Eudora, and a registered Republican, said she felt Obama did a better job of explaining himself than Romney, and she said that she did not appreciate Romney's remarks that were publicized last month about 47 percent of the population being dependent on the government and in Obama's column.

"I don't think he is in touch with us," Grosser, 68, said of Romney. Her husband, Stewart, 73, and retired from the Navy, said he was undecided about who to support. He agreed with Obama on some issues, but added, "He (Obama) seems to hit a brick wall with Congress." Later, he said he felt himself agreeing with Obama more during the debate. "I felt like Obama was giving stronger answers," he said.


http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/oct/03/group-dole-applies-dials-romney-obama-during-debat/

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
10. So what set Romney apart as the winner in these women’s minds?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:05 AM
Oct 2012

From the article:

"Two things seemed to resonate – Romney’s history of reaching across the aisle in Massachusetts and the fact that these voters felt like they heard something new from him in terms of his plans, while Obama was telling them the same thing they’ve been hearing for four years."

Not surprising since Romney's plan changes every time he tells it. It's always new, like he just finished pulling it out of his ass.




ffr

(23,398 posts)
12. I liked what Romney had to say tonight
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:11 AM
Oct 2012

He supports plans put in place by Bill Clinton
He supports federal funding for education
He supports single payer health care reform
He supports regulations on the banking system

Heck he supports everything that anybody in the middle would want to hear.

In affect, he supports everything the current GOP platform is against.

Wonder how many of my Rep buddies will actually be crying tomorrow morning.

regnaD kciN

(27,639 posts)
31. Right, it'll be the American people who will be crying...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:01 AM
Oct 2012

...two years into President Romney's term.

Jazzy_Obama

(23 posts)
13. Very depressed tonight
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:14 AM
Oct 2012

On top of being frusturated with Obama MSNBC & That stupid moderator overall I'm not feeling to good about tonight & to be quite honest I'm probably won't watch the news all day tomorrow goodnight guys

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
41. counting on O and Biden to lengthen lead in homestretch
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:29 AM
Oct 2012

I'm positive they will Call me an optimist but posts like this one give me hope

Shuhered

(200 posts)
19. No Need To Be Depressed
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:19 AM
Oct 2012

Look. It was Obama and Michelle's Anniversary. They need a dinner out somewhere and snuggle time. My vote here in Iowa is already sent in as are many of my friends. Obama looked down a lot but was far too charitable with not coming after him with Romney's lies. I think that is the plan and that he will go for the kill by the third debate. There is a timely and methodical method to Obama's media.

Jazzy_Obama

(23 posts)
22. Aww Thanks you guys
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:33 AM
Oct 2012

I feel a lil better after thinking about what y'all said. I'm not giving up by a long shot I'm still preparing to fight till the end & march to the polls Oct 27(MD early vote starts) This is just a speed bump to our road to victory!

Shuhered

(200 posts)
48. Totally Agree Jazzy
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:25 PM
Oct 2012

Yea life in Iowa is very much in favor of Obama. I have donated and, of course, signs are in the yard. Having mailed in my vote already, I feel confident that Obama's abilities have already won over enough swing states to guarantee a second term. But let's keep up the full court press!!!! VOTE!!! And often, heehee.

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
30. He wasn't just "looking down"--he was making notes on points he wanted to rebut from
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:48 AM
Oct 2012

Romney's answers.

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
32. Yes, but it did not look good,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:39 AM
Oct 2012

especially with the "split screen". At times it looked like Romney

was "lecturing" Obama. Bad optics.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
42. well some of us take the "lecturing Obama" as extremely disrespectful & entitled-looking
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:31 AM
Oct 2012

The "entitlement" appearance of Rmoney was also very negative when he was running over Lehrer's attempts to rein him in and stick with the time limit. I found Rmoney to look both entitled and just like the spoiled brat he is.

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
46. Yeah, well "some of us" would include me and I don't really know what your point is.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:06 AM
Oct 2012

It does look "disrespectful", but Obama, in my view, unwittingly enabled

this by constantly lowering his head. Everyone watching the debate is

not strongly pro-Obama" as we DUers. The undecideds are watching too

and they are not as likely as many of us to view it all as "Romney Bad".

My point was, this may look "bad" in a sense, for Romney, but it's JUST as

likely undecideds will view it differently, e.g. Obama looks weak.

Honest assessments are not signs of "disloyalty". The president

did not, in the view of MANY, if not most, did not have a good night last night.

He needs to step up his game for the remaining debates.

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
26. Watch it again on c-span... it's a whole different ballgame
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:49 AM
Oct 2012

Different view makes a huge difference. I was utterly surprised. Obama was great!

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
16. I don't know who prepped Obama for this debate, but they should be fired.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:17 AM
Oct 2012

He left ALL the meat on the table.

He could have pushed Romney into history's dustbin several times, easily, and didn't.

Kablooie

(19,107 posts)
17. "(Romney) has attempted to work across the aisle."
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:18 AM
Oct 2012

“I’ve not seen that from Obama.”

Good god!
The GOP strategy is working.
OBAMA is getting the blame for not working with Republicans!
Remember when he had a special meeting with them at the beginning specifically to encourage bi-partisan discussions?
They all said he was very open and sensible, then they kicked him in the teeth.

That is a huge failing on the part of the Democrats.
They didn't get the truth out that the Republican are the whole problem, not Obama.
Too late now to do anything about it now unless Obama can make a convincing case in the next debate.


skeewee08

(1,983 posts)
23. "Too late now to do anything about I now unless Obama can make a convincing case in the next debate"
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:33 AM
Oct 2012

President O will

Rustycup

(41 posts)
35. Dems in MA first agenda wasn't
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:45 AM
Oct 2012

to say no and defeat Romney. This is the problem with Dems they do work across the aisle...Once Romney gets in they will work with him also.....it is a huge failure on their part. They don't get create and need to let people know they work with others the republicans don't. But MSM will spin it they are whining. They also need to start promoting government. My concern was when Obama said he and Romney agree on SS. WTF? Ryan wants to privatize it and means test it. The Dems are going to lose big if they don't get on saving SS. Do they not believe that? Then why vote for them. At least I know where Ryan stands.

Crap people are losing pensions, the stock market is not keeping up with 401K...when need all three pillars. Ugh! .

ailsagirl

(24,287 posts)
36. Arghh! I couldn't believe my ears when that charlatan claimed
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:11 AM
Oct 2012

Obama 'didn't reach across the aisle' nor be bipartisan!!!
That's got to be the toppling outrage!!

Obama has ALWAYS striven to be bipartisan and to work together as Americans, not Dems/repukes/independents, etc.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
44. We wanted him to STOP. Mr. Obama bent over backwards trying to be bipartisan.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:33 AM
Oct 2012

I realize that this strategy made the Republicans look like the obstructionists that they are, but it was maddening.

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
25. I know I'm repeating myself BUT...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:43 AM
Oct 2012

Please watch it again on c-span if you have any doubt at all. The view is different than the original and it is quite a surprise....

www.c-span.org/Debates/

DallasNE

(8,008 posts)
28. I'm Waiting For The Retractions Tomorrow From The Romney Campaign
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:16 AM
Oct 2012

They will be coming. You can count on it. Except for his Tenther comments there wasn't much in it for Romney's base. And when will somebody apply math to Romney's proposals and report on it? Why is MSM giving Romney a free ride on this when it is the core issue of the campaign.

Blueprogress

(64 posts)
37. Mitt the bully
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:57 AM
Oct 2012

I have been not too enthusiastic this election cycle. I have been disappointed with some of the actions of the President especially when it comes on to dealing with congress and the concessions he made. I had just recently updated my voter registration card and up until last night did not make a donation this election cycle. However, after watching the debates last night I am fired up again. I cannot believe people are saying Mitt Romney won. Although I agree Pres. Obama could have tried harder to swim out of the murky mess that was Mitt Romney last night; Mitt proved to me that he is nothing more than a rich 1%, who feels so entitled, does not follow rules and does not believe he has to prove anything to the voters that he wants to elect him. He also clearly does not believe in facts. He had many promises but few specifics. To me the president looked very presidential in that the midst of a fire storm he has a level head. However, pants of fire Mitt seems as if he was about to pounce on the "moderator", the Pres. or anyone who challenged him last night. He is not calm and collected enough to be the President. I think Mitt's performance was that of a school yard bully and he should not be rewarded for that. He was extremely rude and in a frightening way showed he is not steady. If Pres. Obama performed anywhere close to what Mitt did last night the media would be using the angry thug who breaks all rules message. Yes, Obama was not on his A game but nobody should act like Mitt did last night. In my opinion it was a terrible performance. I cannot wait to vote against this rude repugnant Rmoney.

Another issue I have with what I have been hearing is that the President was looking down too much- I must have been watching a different the debate, because the President was the only one who constantly looked directly at the camera and address the viewing audience. I wish here in Florida, we started early voting already, can’t wait to vote for Obama.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
45. Welcome, Blueprogress! Many feel the same as you do.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:35 AM
Oct 2012

GOTV in Florida, do whatever you can, and we can change things together.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
38. Jim Lehrer gets a lot of the blame from me. Pretending he could get specifics by posing the same
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:02 AM
Oct 2012

question again and again.

He should have known R would lie all the way and should have moved through a range of domestic policy questions.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
43. Lehrer was terrible as the moderator in my opinion
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:37 AM
Oct 2012

He was way too deferrential to Romney and let him get away with way too much crap.

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