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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:35 AM Aug 2020

Republicans Lead Senate Races in Alabama, Kentucky and Texas, With South Carolina Tied

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Source: Morning Consult

Democrats enter the peak of the campaign season with advantages that make their path to regaining control of the Senate easier for strategists and handicappers to envision alongside a Joe Biden victory, but new polling suggests that even a rout at the top of the ticket is unlikely to result in a filibuster-proof majority for the left in 2021.

Senate Republicans are outperforming their well-funded Democratic rivals in Kentucky and Texas, while the chamber’s most vulnerable Democrat, Doug Jones of Alabama, trails his Republican challenger, former Auburn football coach Tommy Tuberville, by double digits, according to the latest Morning Consult Political Intelligence polling of likely voters in four states conducted from July 24 through Aug. 2. In South Carolina, the data shows a virtually tied contest between Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) — one of President Donald Trump’s top allies on Capitol Hill — and Jaime Harrison, the former state Democratic Party chairman.



Read more: https://morningconsult.com/2020/08/04/senate-presidential-polling-alabama-kentucky-sc-texas/



In my model, none of these these are compelling races to support.
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Republicans Lead Senate Races in Alabama, Kentucky and Texas, With South Carolina Tied (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2020 OP
i think it would be worthwhile to toss a few $$ to the dems...definately Jones as we need.. samnsara Aug 2020 #1
My model gives us the Senate w/o Jones... brooklynite Aug 2020 #8
It's ashame. Jones is a great man with a great history of battling racism dsp3000 Aug 2020 #15
Jones is getting crushed Polybius Aug 2020 #21
Hmmmm DonaldsRump Aug 2020 #2
I can rpannier Aug 2020 #4
Kentucky is, at heart, a conservative state. Music Man Aug 2020 #7
Indeed BigOleDummy Aug 2020 #19
McGrath is more popular outside of Kentucky Wanderlust988 Aug 2020 #23
There are lessons in these numbers for Dems empedocles Aug 2020 #3
SC Senate is possible, Dems need to learn how to talk Senate bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #5
How I wish McTurtle would just drop fucking dead. BlueStater Aug 2020 #6
Believe me Nexus2 Aug 2020 #13
Harrison & Hegar seem to have legitimate shots NewJeffCT Aug 2020 #9
Some people voted for Trump because they wanted change in Washington. Lonestarblue Aug 2020 #10
SOMEONE ELSE AND DON'T KNOW! louzke9 Aug 2020 #11
WTF is wrong with the South? B Stieg Aug 2020 #12
B minus rated pollsters JT45242 Aug 2020 #14
The numbers in Texas are interesting cannabis_flower Aug 2020 #16
Jaime qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #17
determination based on a single poll? beachbumbob Aug 2020 #18
Miss Lindsey must be sharing a drink with Susan Collins right now sandensea Aug 2020 #20
Not buying it Bayard Aug 2020 #22
After discussion with hosts ..... LOCKING applegrove Aug 2020 #24

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
1. i think it would be worthwhile to toss a few $$ to the dems...definately Jones as we need..
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:41 AM
Aug 2020

..to keep seats.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
8. My model gives us the Senate w/o Jones...
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:37 AM
Aug 2020

I supported him early on, but my dollars are more useful picking up winnable seats elsewhere .

dsp3000

(685 posts)
15. It's ashame. Jones is a great man with a great history of battling racism
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:20 AM
Aug 2020

nt

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
21. Jones is getting crushed
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:52 AM
Aug 2020

There's nothing anyone can do, unless he's caught in bed with a minor.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
2. Hmmmm
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:41 AM
Aug 2020

These aren't very good numbers. For the life of me, I cannot understand how Amy McGrath is doing so poorly against McConnell.

rpannier

(24,924 posts)
4. I can
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:54 AM
Aug 2020

1. It's a republikan state
2. Most voters do not vote out someone with his power
3. There are potentially persuadable voters who don't trust her
4. She is still rather new to the political scene. This allows McConnell to paintbrush her

Music Man

(1,664 posts)
7. Kentucky is, at heart, a conservative state.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:18 AM
Aug 2020

Also, like many Americans, they rail against Congress generically, but they keep voting for their guy because they keep bringing in the pork. I think many Kentuckians believe McConnell gives the state clout being majority leader.

Also, McGrath just isn't a strong candidate. I think a lot of folks outside Kentucky have a misconception of how popular she really is here. She lost her House race in left-leaning Lexington in a Democratic wave election year. I have never been as bullish on her running for statewide office as many people seem to be. I think most folks have a hard time articulating what Amy McGrath stands for and is about other than, "She was a fighter pilot." Even against someone as vilified as McConnell, that won't cut it.

I hope I turn out to be wrong this November

BigOleDummy

(2,274 posts)
19. Indeed
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:16 AM
Aug 2020

I made pretty much the same points earlier on about Ms. McGrath and heard crickets. While I would dearly love ANY Democrat to unseat the vile traitor Moscow Mitch I just have a hard time, a very hard time, seeing her do it. I live in the Louisville Metro area which compared to most of Kentucky is pretty progressive and have yet to see one yard sign of hers. No talk about her. I'm afraid we've let our hopes override reality on this one. No idea exactly WHO in this state could unseat him either. Sad and infuriating but true.

Wanderlust988

(784 posts)
23. McGrath is more popular outside of Kentucky
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 01:11 PM
Aug 2020

than inside the state. She's almost becoming a running joke with her fighter pilot ads. She won't win at all.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. There are lessons in these numbers for Dems
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:44 AM
Aug 2020

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
5. SC Senate is possible, Dems need to learn how to talk Senate
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:58 AM
Aug 2020

Whatever we're doing, we've been struggling at it a long, long time. How many times can you counter MoscowMitch with strong woman?
Hint, probably not in 6 years. But seriously, issues are difficult to localize in a Senate race, political power and broad policies and debates make the race. You counter an unpopular president, appeal to fairness/tax issues. How is it we haven't developed the secret sauce?

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
6. How I wish McTurtle would just drop fucking dead.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:59 AM
Aug 2020

I don’t know if I hate anyone as much as I hate Trump, but that beady-eyed, chinless sociopath in Kentucky is definitely a strong contender.

Also, no surprise that Jones is getting crushed. Those cretins were going to vote him out even before he voted to impeach their orange god.

Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
13. Believe me
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:13 AM
Aug 2020

There's allot of us here in Ky that wish McConnell would get turned on his back and left in the sun.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
9. Harrison & Hegar seem to have legitimate shots
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:50 AM
Aug 2020

Jones is disappointing to be so far behind.

Lonestarblue

(13,477 posts)
10. Some people voted for Trump because they wanted change in Washington.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:50 AM
Aug 2020

They chose the wrong person, who changed things all right but made them much worse and added chaos and corruption. I think voters still want change, and I would like to see Biden start talking about the Senate and just straight out make the point that if Republicans hold the Senate majority, Mitch McConnell will obstruct all changes, even those that benefit average Americans (just as he did during the Great Recession). This message is important because far too many people mistakenly seem to think that having at least one house of Congress in different hands leads to better government. Given today’s Republicans, it just leads to no government.

louzke9

(296 posts)
11. SOMEONE ELSE AND DON'T KNOW!
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:59 AM
Aug 2020

Better VOTE for SOMEONE. This is how/why Trump won 2016. SE and DK have only ONE DECISION to make.....do they want Trump or Biden? That is THE BOTTOM LINE HERE! At least in these states, voters who sit home on their keisters will help Trump and these Senators win.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
12. WTF is wrong with the South?
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:01 AM
Aug 2020

Just WTF?

JT45242

(4,043 posts)
14. B minus rated pollsters
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:15 AM
Aug 2020

Not sure I believe these. Especially the 58-59% pro trump votes.

Seems like a smoke screen...

I wouldn't write any of these off.

cannabis_flower

(3,932 posts)
16. The numbers in Texas are interesting
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:20 AM
Aug 2020

Heger is only 6 point behind but 14% say Don't know/No opinion. It would be hard to believe that that group is going to break in favor of a guy who has been a Senator for 18 years if they don't know now.

Another thing is Heger just won the primary so a lot of people haven't heard of her. And if Biden has coattails and wins Texas, it might just pull her over.


qwlauren35

(6,309 posts)
17. Jaime
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:30 AM
Aug 2020

I will continue to support Jaime Harrison. He's only one point behind, and there are enough "I Don't Know"s to swing the election.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
18. determination based on a single poll?
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:55 AM
Aug 2020

also I see no link inside of Morning Consult that actually broke out any data or demographics

sandensea

(23,336 posts)
20. Miss Lindsey must be sharing a drink with Susan Collins right now
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:18 AM
Aug 2020

They're both concerned.

Bayard

(29,679 posts)
22. Not buying it
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:58 AM
Aug 2020

Amy McGrath has consistently polled within a few points of McConnell in the past several months. She's also been raising more money than him, especially from out of state donors.

I am encouraged by Beshear's win as governor. Everyone hated Bevin. Even though McConnell continually shows he could care less about regular KY people, he has big KY money behind him. He is the definition of Swamp Creature. The other problem is that too few people vote here. They don't understand we could do so much better.

Unfortunately, when I try to bring up other polling, everyone else is quoting this poll. People that read that--like in the Courier Journal (Louisville), think there's no hope, so why bother.

applegrove

(132,207 posts)
24. After discussion with hosts ..... LOCKING
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 02:33 PM
Aug 2020

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