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Jose Garcia

(2,592 posts)
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:17 PM Aug 2020

Karen Bass eulogized Communist Party USA leader

Source: Politico

When Rep. Karen Bass’s “friend and mentor” died three years ago, she eulogized the community organizer’s passing in remarks she inserted into the Congressional Record.

The California congresswoman described Oneil Marion Cannon as a one-man force in progressive politics who became the “union printer to the left” in Los Angeles, where he worked for “interracial and intercultural understanding,” opened a community hub and even once “belonged to the Independent Progressive Party.”

Left out of the 406-word eulogy: Cannon was a top member of the Communist Party USA for decades.

That omitted detail and her little-noticed 2017 eulogy today takes on outsized importance now that Bass is on Joe Biden’s VP shortlist. As quickly as the congresswoman and former speaker of the California state Assembly shot into serious contention for Biden’s No. 2, she has come under intense scrutiny, prompting questions about whether Biden would be risking too much by selecting a politician just now coming under the glare of the national spotlight.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/08/04/karen-bass-eulogized-communist-party-usa-leader-391455?__twitter_impression=true

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Karen Bass eulogized Communist Party USA leader (Original Post) Jose Garcia Aug 2020 OP
So?!?! NewDayOranges Aug 2020 #1
People are nervous about a SERIOUS liberal. Laelth Aug 2020 #2
Yeah, too radical. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2020 #3
I agree PatSeg Aug 2020 #15
And then there were five Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #4
The Red Baiting Gets Old McKim Aug 2020 #14
Bass's communist associations don't bother me- but there was outcry about Bernie Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #23
The difference is that Bass is a mainstream Democrat and always has been. ucrdem Aug 2020 #25
I don't have a problem either, but we must acknowledge it would be a vulnerability for Biden nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #30
I understand, but we know that goes for any woman he picks. ucrdem Aug 2020 #31
Politico strikes again! George II Aug 2020 #5
Strikes? Its the truth. Should they ignore it? Its bound to be reported. oldsoftie Aug 2020 #32
Like it or not, she's made herself an easy target for the GOP. tableturner Aug 2020 #6
Ouch awesomerwb1 Aug 2020 #7
Hand me my fainting pills.... OnDoutside Aug 2020 #8
Bass is an establishment Democrat BeyondGeography Aug 2020 #9
She is done...Thank You for posting this...this happened just 3 years ago... Stuart G Aug 2020 #10
Her praise of Scientology bothered me more. Yes, she's done. Funtatlaguy Aug 2020 #11
I agree with you...The Scientology praise destroyed also destroyed her career...but.. Stuart G Aug 2020 #13
Yep. That, for me, is a bigger problem rpannier Aug 2020 #36
Okay DarthDem Aug 2020 #12
she's toast; the Scientology thing alone disqualifies, and its downhill from there; this very bringthePaine Aug 2020 #16
Two things: George II Aug 2020 #17
I've liked most things I've heard about Karen Bass these past couple of months. nsd Aug 2020 #18
from a linked article: ucrdem Aug 2020 #19
Is that like being an elector for the Socialist Workers Party? Because that's apparently not a ehrnst Aug 2020 #20
Yes, Sanders came in second -- not first. The difference matters. /nt nsd Aug 2020 #22
But does it disqualify him from being a VP, or endorsing the winner? Apparently, ehrnst Aug 2020 #24
I think it was disqualifying for Sanders too. nsd Aug 2020 #28
No, it was not disqualifying. And he has avoided mentioning it in his biography and talking about it ehrnst Aug 2020 #29
Oh it was brought up many times aong with all the other crazy things. oldsoftie Aug 2020 #33
I think he's still running. He's still raising money via emails and actblue. ehrnst Aug 2020 #34
Really? Jeeze. Thats just not normal. At least i've never heard of anyone doing it. oldsoftie Aug 2020 #35
A check mark has been made... Historic NY Aug 2020 #21
Oh mercy. mahina Aug 2020 #26
Biden doesn't need this left-of-center2012 Aug 2020 #27

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. People are nervous about a SERIOUS liberal.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:23 PM
Aug 2020

That’s what Karen Bass is.

We would be very fortunate to have her serve as President one day.

-Laelth

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
3. Yeah, too radical.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:26 PM
Aug 2020

Not for me of course but that won’t play well with the moderates and other Тяцмр defectors. Just pick Harris and let’s go kick his ass.

PatSeg

(47,388 posts)
15. I agree
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:59 PM
Aug 2020

We can't change anything, if we don't win. I love Karen Bass, but she's too risky for VP. I would still support her in congress though.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,569 posts)
4. And then there were five
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:30 PM
Aug 2020

If this red scare stuff was disqualifying for Sanders, Then it’s disqualifying for Bass.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
14. The Red Baiting Gets Old
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:58 PM
Aug 2020

The red baiting gets old in these times. Joe McCarthy died a long time ago. Give it a rest.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,569 posts)
23. Bass's communist associations don't bother me- but there was outcry about Bernie
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:25 PM
Aug 2020

If the general consensus of moderate Dems was that Sanders’ socialist history disqualified him from being the nominee, then wouldn’t that same logic apply to Bass?

If Joe wants a “safe” progressive VP, Who will boost the ticket to victory, pick Warren.
If he wants a “safe” woman of Color, Who will boost the ticket to victory, pick Harris.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
25. The difference is that Bass is a mainstream Democrat and always has been.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:31 PM
Aug 2020

I see no problem with her remarks about friends including these.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
31. I understand, but we know that goes for any woman he picks.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:44 PM
Aug 2020

Just being a woman will give the wingnuts plenty of gas no matter who she is. Bass checks a lot of boxes, maybe not all, but I don't think the balance sheet comes out any worse for her than for others.

p.s. I omitted the Medicare for All reference as I just checked and it looks like she supported it one point. Nevertheless my point stands.

oldsoftie

(12,529 posts)
32. Strikes? Its the truth. Should they ignore it? Its bound to be reported.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:02 PM
Aug 2020

Just like the Scientology BS

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
9. Bass is an establishment Democrat
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:43 PM
Aug 2020

Revelations like this could cause Kevin McCarthy to reconsider his labeling Bass as his favorite Democrat.

Actually, the more this “she’s a lefty” crap dribbles out the better she will look to progressives. Which won’t hurt her chances one bit.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
10. She is done...Thank You for posting this...this happened just 3 years ago...
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:45 PM
Aug 2020

Good By...Karen Bass....been good to know you...

....Close the door on the way out. Don't call us, we'll call you...

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
13. I agree with you...The Scientology praise destroyed also destroyed her career...but..
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:58 PM
Aug 2020

does she have a clue? ... asks Stu

bringthePaine

(1,727 posts)
16. she's toast; the Scientology thing alone disqualifies, and its downhill from there; this very
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:01 PM
Aug 2020

overstepping likely compromises her for a whole lot more than VP, now that several large cats
have escaped the proverbial bag

nsd

(2,406 posts)
18. I've liked most things I've heard about Karen Bass these past couple of months.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:17 PM
Aug 2020

Most things ... but not Cuba, Scientology, or Communist Party USA.

She's seems like a great person, but the VP nominee's first duty is to do no harm. Part of that is not bringing unnecessary baggage. Part of doing no harm is not bringing stuff that has to be "explained" away. As the (true) cliche goes, if you're explaining you're losing.


ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
19. from a linked article:
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:18 PM
Aug 2020


Oneil was committed to electing Black and Latino representatives at all levels of government. He helped to elect Augustus “Gus” Hawkins, Tom Bradley, Ed Roybal, Diane Watson, Maxine Waters, and Karen Bass.

Cannon campaigned for Barack Obama in 2008, and wept with joy along with millions of others when he was elected. He died peacefully, wearing one of his Obama T-shirts.

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/oneil-cannon-longtime-communist-centenarian/?fbclid=IwAR2IDSBtTxB_iYqelfBtNGUNWhI8sVe6a-saMFFjvG9KowB9S2xV7aHOPv0


 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. Is that like being an elector for the Socialist Workers Party? Because that's apparently not a
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:19 PM
Aug 2020

dealbreaker for coming in second in a POTUS run:

In 1980, Sanders served as an elector for the Socialist Workers Party, which was founded on the principles of Leon Trotsky. According to the New York Times, that party called for abolishing the military budget. It also called for “solidarity” with the revolutionary regimes in Iran, Nicaragua, Grenada, and Cuba; this was in the middle of the Iranian hostage crisis.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/02/bernie-sanders-radical-past-would-haunt-him-in-a-general-election.html
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
24. But does it disqualify him from being a VP, or endorsing the winner? Apparently,
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:30 PM
Aug 2020

if a woman of color so much as gives a eulogy for a member of the Communist Party, she's a pariah.

Not so with a white man who was an actual elector for the Socialist Workers Party.

nsd

(2,406 posts)
28. I think it was disqualifying for Sanders too.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:47 PM
Aug 2020

Joe Biden's appeal is that he is a standard-issue Democrat. He didn't promise a revolution. He only promised reform. Make Obamacare better (but don't commit to Medicare for All), reform the police (but don't defund), make immigration more humane (but don't abolish ICE or abandon enforcement), pursue green energy (but don't ban fracking entirely), and so on.

Reform not revolution -- that's what won the Democratic nomination. That's what Democratic voters wanted.

If Sanders had won I would have been alarmed. I'd have voted for him anyway, given the alternative, but I would have been alarmed. And I think he would have lost the general election.

So, yeah, a white guy with these associations would (I think) have lost.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
29. No, it was not disqualifying. And he has avoided mentioning it in his biography and talking about it
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:57 PM
Aug 2020

so I gather he himself believes that it's a liability in running for office as an Independent or Democrat.

The discussions here were that the GOP was going to make up something to smear him as a socialist, when he states that he's actually just a Democratic Socialist, so it didn't matter what Sanders actually did with the Socialist Workers Party.

I didn't support Sanders for the nomination for a number of reasons, and his history with SWP being red meat for the GOP was just one.

oldsoftie

(12,529 posts)
33. Oh it was brought up many times aong with all the other crazy things.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:06 PM
Aug 2020

Bernie only came in 2nd because he stayed in the longest. He never had a chance from day one, Just like '16. Running was a vanity project. Wouldnt doubt that he runs in 24 if, heaven forbid, trump got reelected. Which i just cant see happening at this point

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
34. I think he's still running. He's still raising money via emails and actblue.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:14 PM
Aug 2020

I wonder if that he's thinking that an "external event" or illness might get him sent into the game in the final minutes to replace the quarterback.

I sincerely hope not.

oldsoftie

(12,529 posts)
35. Really? Jeeze. Thats just not normal. At least i've never heard of anyone doing it.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:39 PM
Aug 2020

Still taking donations AFTER the race?

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
21. A check mark has been made...
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 07:21 PM
Aug 2020

we don't have time trying to defend. Democrats always screw themselves up like with Tom Eagleton, we don't have time for feelings over the pick.

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