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flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:01 PM Aug 2020

Schumer announces investigation into Postal Service policy changes

Source: CNN

Speaking Sunday to reporters in New York City, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer announced a three-member subcommittee of the US Postal Service's Board of Governors tasked with investigating the USPS' policy changes ahead of the November election.

The subcommittee, which consists of two Democrat appointees to the board and one Republican, is expected to issue a public report within two weeks outlining how the USPS will ensure the timeliness of election mail and other critical services, Schumer said.
Postmaster General Louis DeJoy affirmed to lawmakers last week that he would suspend policy changes at the USPS until after the November election.

"Frankly, no one really believes him," Schumer said Sunday.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/23/politics/schumer-postal-service-investigation/index.html



the two-week window for the report was to "give us enough time to put the correct actions in place so that the elections will be held fairly."
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Schumer announces investigation into Postal Service policy changes (Original Post) flibbitygiblets Aug 2020 OP
Have the Sargeant-at-Arms arrest those not complying with subpoenas! SunSeeker Aug 2020 #1
Absolutely! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #3
That requires Barr to order the enforcement of the non-compliance of the subpoena ehrnst Aug 2020 #9
😵. 🤬. Effing Barr. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2020 #13
Congress needs to request enforcement of the non-compliance of the subpoena from Barr... ehrnst Aug 2020 #8
Hell no Barr won't enforce it. That's why they need to use the Sargeant-at-Arms. SunSeeker Aug 2020 #12
Here is the process, and it does not involve the Sargeant-at-Arms: ehrnst Aug 2020 #20
I'm talking about Congress's "inherent contempt" powers; per former AUSA Kirschner, they can arrest SunSeeker Aug 2020 #23
I'm amazed Schumer got this far bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #2
While such a report might help improve confidence in mail voting, I bet the report comes back Hoyt Aug 2020 #4
+1 ancianita Aug 2020 #7
+1000. ehrnst Aug 2020 #10
While I don't disagree with that, Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #15
Isn't that Board of Governors Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #5
"The subcommittee, which consists of two Democrat appointees to the board and one Republican, ehrnst Aug 2020 #11
There are two democrats, but they were appointed very recently. Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #14
Yes, the BoG is all trumpers. Schumer's committee is different from that. PSPS Aug 2020 #18
Isn't it a subcommittee Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #19
Yes, you are correct. I misread the original article and drew the wrong conclusion. PSPS Aug 2020 #21
I can't believe Schumer doesn't know this. Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #6
The cremated remains of the US Veteran that were lost would be of particular importance and weight Blue Owl Aug 2020 #16
Yepper spot on................ turbinetree Aug 2020 #17
I really hope President Biden does not repeat the same mistake President Obama made with cstanleytech Aug 2020 #24
This question has been asked directly and answered just as directly. flibbitygiblets Aug 2020 #25
Gym Jordan is disgusting, isn't he? yellowdogintexas Aug 2020 #26
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
9. That requires Barr to order the enforcement of the non-compliance of the subpoena
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 05:27 PM
Aug 2020

What do you think he'll do?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
8. Congress needs to request enforcement of the non-compliance of the subpoena from Barr...
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 05:26 PM
Aug 2020

Do you really think he'll act on it?

SunSeeker

(51,115 posts)
12. Hell no Barr won't enforce it. That's why they need to use the Sargeant-at-Arms.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 05:33 PM
Aug 2020

And open up that little jail in the basement of the House, or wherever it is.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. Here is the process, and it does not involve the Sargeant-at-Arms:
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:43 PM
Aug 2020

(Emphasis mine)

Criminal Contempt of Congress

The criminal contempt of Congress statute, enacted in 1857 and only slightly modified since, makes the failure to comply with a duly issued congressional subpoena a criminal offense. The statute, now codified under 2 U.S.C. § 192, provides that any person who “willfully” fails to comply with a properly issued committee subpoena for testimony or documents is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a substantial fine and imprisonment for up to one year.

The criminal contempt statute outlines the process by which the House or Senate may refer the non-compliant witness to the Department of Justice (DOJ) for criminal prosecution. Under 2 U.S.C. § 194, once a committee reports the failure to comply with a subpoena to its parent body, the President of the Senate or the Speaker of the House is directed to “certify[] the statement of facts . . . to the appropriate United States attorney, whose duty it shall be to bring the matter before the grand jury for its action.”

26 The statute does not expressly require approval of the contempt citation by the committee’s parent body, but both congressional practice and judicial decisions suggest that approval may be necessary.

27 Although approval of a criminal contempt citation under § 194 appears to impose a mandatory duty on the U.S. Attorney to submit the violation to a grand jury, the executive branch has repeatedly asserted that it retains the discretion to determine whether to do so.


https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R45653

So, no there is no mention in the contempt process of Congress or the Senate sending the Sergeant-at-Arms to the subpoena scoffers' home to place them under arrest and bring them to the Jail at the Capitol.

SunSeeker

(51,115 posts)
23. I'm talking about Congress's "inherent contempt" powers; per former AUSA Kirschner, they can arrest
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:30 PM
Aug 2020

Glenn Kirschner, former assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, said Congress has the power to arrest, and has done so in the past:

Congress used its contempt powers in the 1920s to arrest and confine Mally Daugherty when he refused to appear pursuant to a subpoena in connection with the Teapot Dome scandal. It exercised its inherent contempt powers again in 1930s against U.S. Postmaster William MacCracken. In the MacCracken case, the Supreme Court reaffirmed the existence and propriety of Congress’ implicit contempt power.

Without surveying all of the procedures involved in Congress exercising its inherent contempt power, the House of Representatives could send the sergeant at arms to arrest someone who is determined to be in contempt of Congress. The contemptuous witness could be confined in one of the secure rooms in the U.S. Capitol (which was done in the Daughtery case) or in the jail cells located at Capitol Police Headquarters. Once held in contempt, Congress could consider fines or imprisonment as a way to motivate a witness to purge the contempt by testifying fully and truthfully. Indeed, there is a corollary in the criminal justice system where a witness who refuses to testify at trial is held in contempt until he/she purges the contempt by testifying.


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/why-democrats-congress-should-use-inherent-contempt-force-trump-officials-ncna1058861

Seems reasonable to me.

bucolic_frolic

(42,190 posts)
2. I'm amazed Schumer got this far
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:14 PM
Aug 2020

I still don't think we have a lot of power here, other than public scrutiny and the perception that heads will roll in January if USPS management screws with the election.

Progress of a sort.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. While such a report might help improve confidence in mail voting, I bet the report comes back
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:28 PM
Aug 2020

with findings such as:

1. Removal of blue mailboxes was no different than past years. 240,000 blue boxes have been removed since 1985. Due to reduction in letter mailing, there is less need for blue mailboxes. In fact, almost every originating site, home, etc., is there own mail box.

2. We have excess capacity in letter sorting machines as a result of the internet. We have 25 to 50% more sorting machines than really needed.

3. Delays were not due to sorting machines or blue boxes. Live birds, medications, etc., are not likely mailed through blue boxes or run through the flat letter sorters that have been removed because of excess capacity.

4. Overtime has long been an issue in the USPS. We encourage efforts to reduce overtime, including hiring full-time employees if more staff is needed.

5. In any event, the USPS will be held to a standard of delivering local ballots within 3 days of receipt. All ballots going to other states shall be delivered within 5 days. If necessary, USPS will approve overtime to handle influx of mail ballots, beginning mid-October.
_____________

Truthfully, I would have rather our Congress people were concentrating on getting enhanced unemployment to those who really need it, after it ran out 3 weeks ago.

Mr.Bill

(23,879 posts)
15. While I don't disagree with that,
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 05:41 PM
Aug 2020

read my link in post 14. This is a long running plot and there's more going on here than meets the eye.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. "The subcommittee, which consists of two Democrat appointees to the board and one Republican,
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 05:29 PM
Aug 2020

is expected to issue a public report within two weeks outlining how the USPS will ensure the timeliness of election mail and other critical services, Schumer said."

Mr.Bill

(23,879 posts)
14. There are two democrats, but they were appointed very recently.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 05:38 PM
Aug 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_Governors_of_the_United_States_Postal_Service

It turns out, during Obama's term, McConnell was not only blocking judicial appointments, he was blocking appointments to the Post Office Board of Governors. They've been working on this for awhile. Good news is they only get to fill out the terms of the person whose place they took and all but one of their terms expires during the next presidential term, so this is one more thing Biden can fix.

PSPS

(13,433 posts)
21. Yes, you are correct. I misread the original article and drew the wrong conclusion.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:19 PM
Aug 2020

However, the two "democrats" were appointed by trump, meaning they passed their loyalty test (i.e., "kissed the ring." ) So all three members of the sub-committee (in fact, every member of the BoG) are trump loyalists. He appointed them all.

Mr.Bill

(23,879 posts)
22. I can't believe Schumer doesn't know this.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:29 PM
Aug 2020

Oh, well, maybe there's some angle he sees that we don't.

Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)

cstanleytech

(25,961 posts)
24. I really hope President Biden does not repeat the same mistake President Obama made with
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:19 AM
Aug 2020

Bush by essentially sweeping what they did under the rug in the guise of trying to get along with the Republicans as all that did was encourage them to behave even worse as we have seen.
No, we need a very detailed criminal investigation into what Russia did as well as any other corrupt acts that may have been committed by Trump and those in his administration not to mention the the Republicans in the House and Senate as its clear a number of them have likely been compromised by foreign powers.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
25. This question has been asked directly and answered just as directly.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:58 AM
Aug 2020

Biden has no intention of sweeping this under the rug.

yellowdogintexas

(21,991 posts)
26. Gym Jordan is disgusting, isn't he?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 02:12 PM
Aug 2020

These guys are delusional

What does the Iowa caucus have to do with the USPS issues anyway?

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