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Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)sandensea
(23,190 posts)Before the year's out, the U.S. may end up seeing its first coup in history:
Either a GOP coup, to install Orange Amin as dictator (they'd gladly do it);
Or a military coup to prevent him from doing so - thus ensuring the rightful winner of this November's election can indeed take office.
sandensea
(23,190 posts)After HW Bush was defeated, the GOP decided they'd become a neo-fascist party - which among other things means the wholesale subordination of democracy to corporate/military interests.
Once entrenched in power (and they're one election away), it seldom ends well for anyone.
StevieM
(10,578 posts)We can't blame Newt Gingrich for George HW Bush pardoning the Iran-Contra offenders. And Bob Dole, in his own way, was every bit as loathsome, if not more.
The bottom line is that the Republicans have been moving toward fascism ever since they lost power for the first time after the Reagan Revolution.
It's a worldwide (and therefore coordinated) trend: many once-mainstream right-wing parties in a number of democracies have become fascist, or close to it.
Big Business (with exceptions) has never really liked democracy - and they long to return to a Mussolini model.
Not that it ended well even then.
Evolve Dammit
(21,616 posts)GW called them the "crazies." Google "Project for a New American Century" and look at who signed on.
appalachiablue
(43,944 posts)sandensea
(23,190 posts)Best president we never had.
appalachiablue
(43,944 posts)is more than tiring now; hell hath no fury like a voter thwarted
sandensea
(23,190 posts)Nor should we count Dubya's 2004 victory - courtesy of Ken Blackbox and the Ohio "miracle."
They've made a habit out of just stealing elections, and if we don't want to turn into one these banana republics, we'd better make sure Cheeto can't get away with it this time.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)In 2000, Gore and Bush were separated by only a few hundred votes in the battleground state of Florida, whose electoral votes would determine the elections outcome.
The result remained in limbo until more than a month after Election Day, when the conservative-majority U.S. Supreme Court resolved the contest in Bushs favor, prompting Gore - who had won the nationwide popular vote but lost in the complex state-by-state Electoral College - to concede.
It turns out theres no intermediate step between a final Supreme Court decision and violent revolution, Gore said, smiling, of his decision to concede. It seemed to me that respect for the rule of law and respect for the needs of American democracy were the orders of the day.You can always explore the option of dragging something out, tearing the country apart, mobilizing partisans against one another in the streets and all of that, but it was not a wise course for our country, Gore added.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)...driven by the media, is what led to the acceptance of Al Gores loss when what should have happened is a methodical count of all the ballots, and a recount if necessary.
20 years on, see where that has gotten us. Now the Democrats are laying the groundwork for a methodical count of paper ballots, which will of necessity take longer than a single night. When better than a pandemic year when it will be impossible to have hundreds of pwople gathered for a balloon-drop?
dhill926
(16,953 posts)and I love having surrogates coming out swinging, and swinging hard. All fucking hands on deck...
