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Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
1. Glad Al is saying this, bad days ahead, please be prepared for real trouble everybody.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:05 PM
Aug 2020

sandensea

(23,190 posts)
5. It's possible. Cheeto makes no bones about his intention to seize power if need be.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:13 PM
Aug 2020

Before the year's out, the U.S. may end up seeing its first coup in history:

Either a GOP coup, to install Orange Amin as dictator (they'd gladly do it);

Or a military coup to prevent him from doing so - thus ensuring the rightful winner of this November's election can indeed take office.

sandensea

(23,190 posts)
2. The entire GOP has, since the Gingrich era
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:08 PM
Aug 2020

After HW Bush was defeated, the GOP decided they'd become a neo-fascist party - which among other things means the wholesale subordination of democracy to corporate/military interests.

Once entrenched in power (and they're one election away), it seldom ends well for anyone.

StevieM

(10,578 posts)
12. For the most part I agree, but their turn to darkness was about a lot more than just Newt Gingrich.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 06:01 PM
Aug 2020

We can't blame Newt Gingrich for George HW Bush pardoning the Iran-Contra offenders. And Bob Dole, in his own way, was every bit as loathsome, if not more.

The bottom line is that the Republicans have been moving toward fascism ever since they lost power for the first time after the Reagan Revolution.

sandensea

(23,190 posts)
13. +1
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 06:14 PM
Aug 2020

It's a worldwide (and therefore coordinated) trend: many once-mainstream right-wing parties in a number of democracies have become fascist, or close to it.

Big Business (with exceptions) has never really liked democracy - and they long to return to a Mussolini model.

Not that it ended well even then.

Evolve Dammit

(21,616 posts)
14. Agree. And the militarized police, torture OK and "unitary executive" are W's making.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 06:24 PM
Aug 2020

GW called them the "crazies." Google "Project for a New American Century" and look at who signed on.

appalachiablue

(43,944 posts)
3. Very good to hear from VP Al Gore, stick around
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:10 PM
Aug 2020

sandensea

(23,190 posts)
7. And he looks great!
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:17 PM
Aug 2020

Best president we never had.

appalachiablue

(43,944 posts)
8. Al looks very well, tx for mentioning. The ripp off
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:25 PM
Aug 2020

is more than tiring now; hell hath no fury like a voter thwarted

sandensea

(23,190 posts)
11. Absolutely. The GOPee hasn't LEGITIMATELY elected a president since '88
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:49 PM
Aug 2020

Nor should we count Dubya's 2004 victory - courtesy of Ken Blackbox and the Ohio "miracle."

They've made a habit out of just stealing elections, and if we don't want to turn into one these banana republics, we'd better make sure Cheeto can't get away with it this time.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
4. he was referring to his election
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:11 PM
Aug 2020

In 2000, Gore and Bush were separated by only a few hundred votes in the battleground state of Florida, whose electoral votes would determine the election’s outcome.

The result remained in limbo until more than a month after Election Day, when the conservative-majority U.S. Supreme Court resolved the contest in Bush’s favor, prompting Gore - who had won the nationwide popular vote but lost in the complex state-by-state Electoral College - to concede.

It turns out there’s no intermediate step between a final Supreme Court decision and violent revolution,” Gore said, smiling, of his decision to concede. “It seemed to me that respect for the rule of law and respect for the needs of American democracy were the orders of the day.”“You can always explore the option of dragging something out, tearing the country apart, mobilizing partisans against one another in the streets and all of that, but it was not a wise course for our country,” Gore added.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
6. The last part is extremely important, not disturbing. Our demand for instant results...
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:15 PM
Aug 2020

...driven by the media, is what led to the acceptance of Al Gore’s “loss” — when what should have happened is a methodical count of all the ballots, and a recount if necessary.

20 years on, see where that has gotten us. Now the Democrats are laying the groundwork for a methodical count of paper ballots, which will of necessity take longer than a single night. When better than a pandemic year when it will be impossible to have hundreds of pwople gathered for a balloon-drop?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
9. Thank you..⬆️
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:35 PM
Aug 2020
Our demand for instant results.....driven by the media, is what led to the acceptance of Al Gore’s “loss” — when what should have happened is a methodical count of all the ballots, and a recount if necessary.


dhill926

(16,953 posts)
10. we need to win by 10 million...
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:41 PM
Aug 2020

and I love having surrogates coming out swinging, and swinging hard. All fucking hands on deck...

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