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TomCADem

(17,837 posts)
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:07 PM Aug 2020

An RNC Speaker Said Cops Would Be 'Smart' to Racially Profile Her Own Son

Source: Vice

One of the Republican National Convention’s top speakers said in a recent video that it would be “smart” for a police officer to racially profile her biracial son, because “statistically, my brown son is more likely to commit a violent offense over my white sons.”

“I recognize that I’m gonna have to have a different conversation with Jude than I do with my brown-haired little Irish, very, very pale-skinned, white sons, as they grow up,” Abby Johnson, a prominent anti-abortion activist, said in a 15-plus-minutes video posted to YouTube in late June, after weeks of nationwide protests against the police killing of George Floyd.

“Right now, Jude is an adorable, perpetually tan-looking little brown boy,” said Johnson, whose husband blogged, in 2015, about adopting their biracial son at his birth. Johnson is white. “But one day, he’s going to grow up and he’s going to be a tall, probably sort of large, intimidating-looking-maybe brown man. And my other boys are probably gonna look like nerdy white guys.”

But the fact that the police could one day view her sons differently, simply due to the color of their skin, doesn’t make Johnson mad, she said. Instead, it makes sense to her.

Read more: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/935me3/an-rnc-speaker-said-cops-would-be-smart-to-racially-profile-her-own-son



Wow. Here is one of tonight's featured RNC speakers:

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An RNC Speaker Said Cops Would Be 'Smart' to Racially Profile Her Own Son (Original Post) TomCADem Aug 2020 OP
I'm going to stop even thinking "OK, they can't go any lower than this." Withywindle Aug 2020 #1
FEAR Roy Rolling Aug 2020 #44
She's a horrible person. MontanaMama Aug 2020 #2
What a horrifyingly shitty thing... 3catwoman3 Aug 2020 #3
I'm sure a brown person is more likely to be prosecuted and go to jail for a violent offense ... mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #4
Then she is an idiot lonely bird Aug 2020 #5
Not when accounting for percentage of population. oldsoftie Aug 2020 #8
There are no statistics for crimes committed. Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #15
Thats just splitting hairs. Many crimes arent even reported too. oldsoftie Aug 2020 #39
Which is the discussion of percentages lonely bird Aug 2020 #17
+1 ck4829 Aug 2020 #59
Yeah, zero proof of that obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #52
It's easy to find. oldsoftie Aug 2020 #55
Ah, the good old "look it up yourself" escape hatch ck4829 Aug 2020 #57
Meaning you never bothered to look. The Obama-era FBI isnt a "crackpot site" oldsoftie Aug 2020 #60
Republicans are trash. Lucky Luciano Aug 2020 #6
We need more effective screening to prevent people like this from adopting. pecosbob Aug 2020 #7
We should've asked the same question 4 yrs ago for President! oldsoftie Aug 2020 #9
For those who are more in the know more information about adoption than admittedly I know... The_REAL_Ecumenist Aug 2020 #10
Unfortunately not. All adoptions are final, unless you can show that the birth mother was coerced. StevieM Aug 2020 #19
Okay, I suppose I have to accept that BUT can CPS step in & remove him from the home because of the The_REAL_Ecumenist Aug 2020 #28
CPS operates differently in all 50 states. StevieM Aug 2020 #33
He doesn't have to be snatched permanently, (although he probably should be), right away but he The_REAL_Ecumenist Aug 2020 #35
Call child protective services. This is child abuse. muntrv Aug 2020 #11
Well VA_Jill Aug 2020 #49
It is ck4829 Aug 2020 #58
Well, she knows how she is raising him. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #12
Today, I saw the video of the cop grabbing Jacob Blake by the tee shirt and then PatrickforO Aug 2020 #13
Ignorant bigot..her white kids are "nerdy" looking Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #14
I'd like her to meet VA_Jill Aug 2020 #50
Why did she adopt the child? LisaL Aug 2020 #16
Can you say "cuckoo for cocoa puffs"? Watched some of the RNC tonight! OMG! Hope there Illumination Aug 2020 #18
I read up on some of her history. LisaL Aug 2020 #22
Was ANYONE watching? oldsoftie Aug 2020 #40
My heart goes out to her adoptive child's birth mother. StevieM Aug 2020 #20
Republican views on motherhood. Wonderful. Open and proud abuse. NNadir Aug 2020 #21
They won't profile her son for two reasons LeftInTX Aug 2020 #23
Well, he is more than 2 now. LisaL Aug 2020 #25
So she was willing to say this because she quietly, smuggly knows it won't happen. Chemisse Aug 2020 #34
Pretty much LeftInTX Aug 2020 #36
Or she looks at him and sees something other people presumably won't even notice LisaL Aug 2020 #41
In her twisted and perverted right wing mind she apparently adopted a pet that she thinks hadEnuf Aug 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author yuiyoshida Aug 2020 #26
Seems LIKE most Trump loving Republicans yuiyoshida Aug 2020 #27
How would she respond if the cops put a few bullets in his back? Dios Mio Aug 2020 #29
😥 This 👆 flibbitygiblets Aug 2020 #30
She won't LeftInTX Aug 2020 #37
She's an unfit parent and CPS needs to rescind her adoption of this young man. nt iluvtennis Aug 2020 #31
OMG, I can't even begin to parse this. Afromania Aug 2020 #32
Shows you the sick way RW'ers see the world. radius777 Aug 2020 #38
THE PERFECT SPEAKER.... louzke9 Aug 2020 #42
Her white sons won't be "intimidating"? Even if just as large? Plus the stats caused by racial profi Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2020 #43
Well, this reminds Karma13612 Aug 2020 #45
They paid this horrid woman to lie. Clip here says she also suggests "household voting" onetexan Aug 2020 #46
She might be going for an advanced Karma13612 Aug 2020 #47
The child is either 4 or 5. LisaL Aug 2020 #51
Sorry! n/t Karma13612 Aug 2020 #56
As a white person "I have black friends" llashram Aug 2020 #48
She also believes in Household Voting obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #53
While her husband is sitting at home with their 8 kids, and she LisaL Aug 2020 #54
So... skypilot Aug 2020 #61
Kick ck4829 Sep 2020 #62

Withywindle

(9,989 posts)
1. I'm going to stop even thinking "OK, they can't go any lower than this."
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:13 PM
Aug 2020

They always, ALWAYS can.

That poor child. He already knows he's treated differently at home and he already knows why. Someone come and take him to a better family PLEASE.

Roy Rolling

(7,632 posts)
44. FEAR
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:53 AM
Aug 2020

They will never stop plumbing the depths of how low they will go attempting to scare you.

FEAR

Like them, they want US to live in a paranoid state of fear. They want you and me to be scared and look to them for protection.

It’s the oldest racket in the books, the protection shakedown.

FEAR

It best works on cowards, so I don’t FEAR because I don’t want to become one of them.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. I'm sure a brown person is more likely to be prosecuted and go to jail for a violent offense ...
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:17 PM
Aug 2020

Not sure the actual commission of violent acts is any higher, esp. if you control for wealth.

She should lose custody of her adorable brown boy if you ask me.

lonely bird

(2,943 posts)
5. Then she is an idiot
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:18 PM
Aug 2020

Not to mention a lousy mother.

I wonder why I didn’t get profiled growing up? I ended up 6’8”. But then I am white.

And whites commit more violent crime than African-Americans.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
8. Not when accounting for percentage of population.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:24 PM
Aug 2020

No, they dont. Its an inconvenient fact, but true.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
15. There are no statistics for crimes committed.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:55 PM
Aug 2020

Only for people caught committing them.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
39. Thats just splitting hairs. Many crimes arent even reported too.
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 06:40 AM
Aug 2020

The numbers are so far apart that merely "missing" arrests cant nearly account for the difference.

lonely bird

(2,943 posts)
17. Which is the discussion of percentages
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:07 PM
Aug 2020

Which does not take into account policing rationales, methods, the retribution system, the school to jail pipeline, the white privilege which colors (no pun intended) how crimes are determined and who is deemed a criminal, the so-called war on drugs etc ad nauseum.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
55. It's easy to find.
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 10:32 AM
Aug 2020

But if you post it here, it'll get alerted on & hidden regardless of accuracy

ck4829

(37,761 posts)
57. Ah, the good old "look it up yourself" escape hatch
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 07:11 AM
Aug 2020

Where you'll find... at least one of the chans, Breitbart, the Daily Stormer, and other crackpot sites.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
60. Meaning you never bothered to look. The Obama-era FBI isnt a "crackpot site"
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 07:47 AM
Aug 2020

But thats always the case; nobody actually tries to find the facts because they dont want to find something they dont like
So OK, I did the not-so-hard work for you. 2016 statistics:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21


https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

Both of these tables show the real numbers. You can easily do the rough math in your head. Does it include crime not reported? No, of course not. Because it was NOT REPORTED.

pecosbob

(8,387 posts)
7. We need more effective screening to prevent people like this from adopting.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:20 PM
Aug 2020

Ya know...questions like 'Are you of sound mind?'

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(957 posts)
10. For those who are more in the know more information about adoption than admittedly I know...
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:35 PM
Aug 2020

Is there ANY way that this adoption can be reversed? If this "THANG" is speaking like this about the "CHILD" she willingly adopted at birth at length IN PUBLIC, HOW TF is she treating him in private, behind closed doors? I have to admit that if I were to run across this shambling container of hot garbage in a dark alley, I whip her ass until it, aas my grandpa used to say, "ROPED LIKE OKRA".

Does ANYONE know if this child can be taken away for his own safety?

StevieM

(10,578 posts)
19. Unfortunately not. All adoptions are final, unless you can show that the birth mother was coerced.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:17 PM
Aug 2020

My heart is breaking for the child's first mother tonight. She entrusted her child with this woman. She must be in agony upon hearing about this.

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(957 posts)
28. Okay, I suppose I have to accept that BUT can CPS step in & remove him from the home because of the
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:51 PM
Aug 2020

clear danger she poses to the child's physical AND emotional health? I just cannot believe that she's NOT abusing him, either physically, mentally &/or emotionally. Sounds like she's being neglectful at the very least....

StevieM

(10,578 posts)
33. CPS operates differently in all 50 states.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:44 PM
Aug 2020

TPRs (termination of parental rights) works differently in all 50 states.

And in both cases their workings can be somewhat random.

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(957 posts)
35. He doesn't have to be snatched permanently, (although he probably should be), right away but he
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 12:45 AM
Aug 2020

should be placed into foster care while an investigation takes place & then a decision made. This is BULLSHIT! I don't care what color a potential parent is. children are children BUT WHY THE FUCK did she adopt him if this is how she felt? This WILL NOT end well, for that poor baby.

VA_Jill

(14,371 posts)
49. Well
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 09:34 AM
Aug 2020

There is a movement on Twitter to do just that. The number of the appropriate CPS office was published and I daresay they have been inundated with calls requesting just that.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
12. Well, she knows how she is raising him.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:46 PM
Aug 2020

Well, she knows how she is raising him.

Statistically, of course.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
13. Today, I saw the video of the cop grabbing Jacob Blake by the tee shirt and then
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:50 PM
Aug 2020

pumping seven bullets into his body at point blank range. He's paralyzed now.

I saw the family's press conference and it tore my heart out.

Then, tonight, some guy called me asking for a donation to 'keep police officers safe.' I fear I yelled at him that I was going to be donating to Black Lives Matter instead, and asked how he could possibly justify grabbing a kid by the tee shirt and shooting him seven times at point blank range? He was polite, to his credit, but hung up.

And now there's this. I literally felt my gorge rise when I saw this article. How can this horrible excuse for a human being even think like this? I can't even imagine being 'her brown son.'

Why? Why?

Hard not to weep.

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
14. Ignorant bigot..her white kids are "nerdy" looking
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:54 PM
Aug 2020

While her brown kid will look like a violent criminal. Thats the gist of her racist nonsense

VA_Jill

(14,371 posts)
50. I'd like her to meet
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 09:38 AM
Aug 2020

my grandson. All-state third team OL, 6'2, 260 lbs, honor student with an overwhelming interest in STEM, probably will major in something like astrophysics or aerospace engineering in college depending on where he gets a scholarship. Oh, did I mention he's a young man of color? Yeah, that. Naff off, Abby.

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
18. Can you say "cuckoo for cocoa puffs"? Watched some of the RNC tonight! OMG! Hope there
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:11 PM
Aug 2020

were no children watching!

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
22. I read up on some of her history.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:20 PM
Aug 2020

She had two abortions herself, worked in planned parenthood for 8 years, then apparently had a change of heart.
Here is the story of the child's adoption. She thinks that every child that is born is a miracle, but when her adopted child will grow up, she expects him to look large and intimidating? Who thinks about a child like that?

"Abby Johnson closed her speech with a striking observation born of her own experiences: “The society we live in today, any child that is born is a miracle.”"
https://catholicphilly.com/2016/02/news/local-news/parishioners-hear-of-womans-journey-from-abortion-to-family-life/

StevieM

(10,578 posts)
20. My heart goes out to her adoptive child's birth mother.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:18 PM
Aug 2020

She must be devastated tonight upon learning that this is how the woman raising her son thinks.

NNadir

(38,051 posts)
21. Republican views on motherhood. Wonderful. Open and proud abuse.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:18 PM
Aug 2020

So much for a "right to life."

LeftInTX

(34,302 posts)
23. They won't profile her son for two reasons
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:22 PM
Aug 2020

He's two years old and
He isn't exactly brown

He is about as "brown" as my kids.

He is one of these. But I don't know which one. I think the one on the right end.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
25. Well, he is more than 2 now.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:34 PM
Aug 2020

I found the photo of him on her facebook. He literally looks like a white child with a nice tan. He has blond hair. He is not the one on the right.
I would not be able to tell he is biracial if I didn't know.

Chemisse

(31,348 posts)
34. So she was willing to say this because she quietly, smuggly knows it won't happen.
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 12:32 AM
Aug 2020

Because her adopted son doesn't even look biracial.

She is a horrible person for many reasons.

LeftInTX

(34,302 posts)
36. Pretty much
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 02:17 AM
Aug 2020

He's probably Mexican-American and sometimes they can be fair complected, like my kids. No way would they have to worry about him being profiled. Even within that community it is how you dress, where you hang out, how you talk and who you hang around with that attracts attention more than genetics.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
41. Or she looks at him and sees something other people presumably won't even notice
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:07 AM
Aug 2020

because likely they wouldn't realize that her adopted son is biracial. She seems to make a clear distinction between her adopted son and her biological sons.

hadEnuf

(3,616 posts)
24. In her twisted and perverted right wing mind she apparently adopted a pet that she thinks
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM
Aug 2020

is a potential animal.


WTF is wrong with these people?

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

radius777

(3,921 posts)
38. Shows you the sick way RW'ers see the world.
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 06:05 AM
Aug 2020

They expect the oppressed to adjust instead of calling for reform of the system, which they see as perfectly fine.

They simply lack a deeper understanding of the how the world works and a desire for a better future like liberals do.

louzke9

(296 posts)
42. THE PERFECT SPEAKER....
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:23 AM
Aug 2020

TO represent Donald Trump and the RNC.....THE MOST DESPICABLE MOTHER IN AMERICA!

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
43. Her white sons won't be "intimidating"? Even if just as large? Plus the stats caused by racial profi
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:40 AM
Aug 2020

The root cause of higher crime stats for people of colour is poverty and systemic lack of opportunity and support. Those things are caused by systemic racism.

Racial profiling increases the stats even more. If a cop stops someone, they are more likely to have an interaction, find unpaid speeding tickets, etc. Stop more brown people than white proportionally and you get more stats. Those interactions with police are more likely to end badly because of ... systemic racism. Cops are much more likely to have zero tolerance for people of colour disobeying their commands than whites disobeying. Plus they are more likely to issue harsher commands and rapid fire commands and faster commands.


People who lack critical thinking or have anti-factual agendas just write all that off and make statements like Abby Johnson. They swallow the surface facts (higher crime rates) and stop thinking. They don't dig deeper.

It's evil to not exercise critical thinking like that.

Karma13612

(4,982 posts)
45. Well, this reminds
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 08:13 AM
Aug 2020

Me of parents who call the cops on their kids for minor stuff, just to “teach them a lesson”.

Then they “get dead.”



Karma13612

(4,982 posts)
47. She might be going for an advanced
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 08:31 AM
Aug 2020

Degree, but she is still ignorant, shallow, and misinformed.

And why the heck does she have 8 kids.

And further, from her body language, I get the feeling she was obligated to do this for some reason. I’m just getting weird vibes about the whole thing.

Lastly, I find it hard to believe that her young “brown son” is in fact obsessed with the color of his skin. Surprised he isn’t just running around being a two year old. SHE is the one obsessed with the color of his skin.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
48. As a white person "I have black friends"
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 09:14 AM
Aug 2020

I feel sorry for her child...mothertrumper at work on his mind. This is sad and enraging.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
53. She also believes in Household Voting
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 10:01 AM
Aug 2020

Where the husband votes for everyone in the house. One vote per home/family.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
54. While her husband is sitting at home with their 8 kids, and she
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 10:05 AM
Aug 2020

is out and about giving speeches. To me it would appear she is the one making money for the household. But apparently her husband is the head of their household anyway? And he should be one voting, not her? Even though her anti-abortion activism is how they make a living?
The mind boggles.
I wonder what would actually happen if she was forbidden to vote?

skypilot

(9,128 posts)
61. So...
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 09:49 AM
Aug 2020

...black guys grow up to be large and intimidating-looking and white guys grow up to look like nerds. I did not know this. Learn something new every day.

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