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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 07:35 PM Aug 2020

Chicago passes 500 homicides, on track for one of the most violent years in decades

Source: Chicago Triune, via Decatur Herald & Review

Chicago passes 500 homicides, on track for one of the most violent years in decades

SOPHIE SHERRY and JEREMY GORNER Chicago Tribune 1 hr ago

Barely a month into his job as Chicago’s top cop, David Brown described his “moonshot”: a year when there would be fewer than 300 homicides in the city.

When Brown took the podium Monday for his usual news conference on weekend violence, the city had recorded more than 500 homicides this year, putting it on pace with 2016 when Chicago was hit with a spike of violence not seen in decades.

Brown, now more than four months into his tenure, did not mention the grim milestone while talking to reporters. He also did not dwell on the toll from the weekend: at least 10 people killed and 40 others wounded by gun violence that included a mass shooting at a pancake house on the Far Southwest Side. A man died and four others were wounded as diners with children scattered.

In a little more than three hours beginning around 2 a.m. Sunday, Chicago police responded to 10 separate shootings, including three homicides and an attack on two officers who exchanged gunfire with an armed teen. All three were wounded.

Brown said 41 Chicago police officers have been shot at this year and 10 of them have been hit. Asked if cops were being targeted, Brown replied, “I think there’s more than a suggestion that people are seeking to do harm to cops.”

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Chicago passes 500 homicides, on track for one of the most violent years in decades (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2020 OP
When Trump accepted the GOP nomination: keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #1
he actually said that he knew a guy who would fix all the crime in Chicago. mucifer Aug 2020 #2
Trump threatened/promised to send in the feds to fix the violence. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #3
Good thing he didn't Polybius Aug 2020 #7
Feds were sent and are working greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #9
At this point I'm not really sure what can be done to stop it Polybius Aug 2020 #11
Well, you're in New York, right? greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #13
Yes, but I have family there Polybius Aug 2020 #15
Ah greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #16
The only we argue is about pizza Polybius Aug 2020 #18
Oh, I'll bet greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #20
I tease, but I like your pizza a lot too Polybius Aug 2020 #22
Well, the first thought that bamagal62 Aug 2020 #4
AmErIcAn CaRnAgE iS oVeR greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #5
But...but... Guns DON'T kill people... nt Progressive Jones Aug 2020 #6
It's very difficult to get one legally in Chicago Polybius Aug 2020 #8
It's not hard to buy a legal gun in Chicago greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #10
It is hard for a carry permit Polybius Aug 2020 #12
It's easy to buy a legal gun in Chicago greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #14
Thanks to the Supreme Court it got easier Polybius Aug 2020 #17
LOL greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #19
Brother, sister-in-law, and nephews, not cousin Polybius Aug 2020 #21
What suburb do they live in? greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #23
They live in South Deering Polybius Aug 2020 #24
Not to belittle the deaths, but Chicago has always been a violent city. roamer65 Sep 2020 #25

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
1. When Trump accepted the GOP nomination:
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 07:40 PM
Aug 2020

When Trump accepted the GOP nomination:

"I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end," he said. "Beginning on January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/politics/republican-convention-highlights-day-four/index.html

mucifer

(23,539 posts)
2. he actually said that he knew a guy who would fix all the crime in Chicago.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020

I'm not making that up.

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
3. Trump threatened/promised to send in the feds to fix the violence.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:19 PM
Aug 2020

Trump threatened/promised to send in the feds to fix the violence.

They called his bluff - no feds.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
9. Feds were sent and are working
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:29 PM
Aug 2020

The Feds offered and accepted by Chicago are mainly ATF and FBI who are working on gang violence, not a bunch of no-badge thugs supposedly guarding a federal courthouse. In any case, the feds that were added are apparently having no discernible effect.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
11. At this point I'm not really sure what can be done to stop it
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:33 PM
Aug 2020

It's a very complicated situation that's been going on for decades. If we teach not to kill in school, that won't work either. I'm at a loss.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
13. Well, you're in New York, right?
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:34 PM
Aug 2020

So what would you know about it anyway? Other than what's circulated in the conservative press?

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
22. I tease, but I like your pizza a lot too
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:50 PM
Aug 2020

It's completely different, it's like comparing apples and oranges. Both are amazing.

bamagal62

(3,256 posts)
4. Well, the first thought that
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:20 PM
Aug 2020

Came into my mind was, I wonder if someone is paying the gangs to make the violence worse. I smell a rat.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
5. AmErIcAn CaRnAgE iS oVeR
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:37 PM
Aug 2020

I wish conservative shitheads would keep Chicago out of their mouths. It's obvious that they don't give a shit about Chicago or its people, but only care to score cheap political points. Hell, they probably laugh about the deaths. It's so immoral, isn't it, mahatmajeeves? A person would have to be a real piece of shit to engage in that kind of discourse.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
8. It's very difficult to get one legally in Chicago
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:25 PM
Aug 2020

The vast majority of Chicago gun violence is smuggled in.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
10. It's not hard to buy a legal gun in Chicago
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:32 PM
Aug 2020

Don't be ridiculous.

The question of the illegal guns being smuggled in is separate, though it is certainly true that the guns in the hands of the gangs are mostly circulated through the illicit market. They come from straw purchases and direct sales from Indiana, Iowa, and downstate IL, where legal gun owners pretend their guns were stolen, gun shows black market sales, etc.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
12. It is hard for a carry permit
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:34 PM
Aug 2020

It's easier to get a stay-at-home license. But yes, the majority are smuggled in.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
17. Thanks to the Supreme Court it got easier
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:43 PM
Aug 2020

It did after Mayor Jane Byrne pushed through the ban on firearms not already registered with Chicago police in March 1982. The city's ban lasted until 2010, when the Supreme Court struck it down by a majority vote of 5-4. Two years later, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago struck down as unconstitutional the state's ban on carrying concealed firearms. In 2013, the General Assembly passed a law making Illinois the last state to grant its residents the right to concealed carry. Right now, New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco have stricter gun laws on the books, experts say.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-chicago-gun-laws-explainer-20171006-story.html

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
19. LOL
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:44 PM
Aug 2020

No doubt your cousin pointed you to this article during your circumnavigations of "The Bean," yes?

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
21. Brother, sister-in-law, and nephews, not cousin
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:48 PM
Aug 2020

We've talked about gun laws before. He said they were strict, but he likes them that way. I am a little to his right, seeing the very strict laws that I have here in NYC.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
25. Not to belittle the deaths, but Chicago has always been a violent city.
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 02:08 AM
Sep 2020

Especially during the time of prohibition and Capone.

I still love the town.

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