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Mon Aug 31, 2020, 07:35 PM

Chicago passes 500 homicides, on track for one of the most violent years in decades

Source: Chicago Triune, via Decatur Herald & Review

Chicago passes 500 homicides, on track for one of the most violent years in decades

SOPHIE SHERRY and JEREMY GORNER Chicago Tribune 1 hr ago

Barely a month into his job as Chicago’s top cop, David Brown described his “moonshot”: a year when there would be fewer than 300 homicides in the city.

When Brown took the podium Monday for his usual news conference on weekend violence, the city had recorded more than 500 homicides this year, putting it on pace with 2016 when Chicago was hit with a spike of violence not seen in decades.

Brown, now more than four months into his tenure, did not mention the grim milestone while talking to reporters. He also did not dwell on the toll from the weekend: at least 10 people killed and 40 others wounded by gun violence that included a mass shooting at a pancake house on the Far Southwest Side. A man died and four others were wounded as diners with children scattered.

In a little more than three hours beginning around 2 a.m. Sunday, Chicago police responded to 10 separate shootings, including three homicides and an attack on two officers who exchanged gunfire with an armed teen. All three were wounded.

Brown said 41 Chicago police officers have been shot at this year and 10 of them have been hit. Asked if cops were being targeted, Brown replied, “I think there’s more than a suggestion that people are seeking to do harm to cops.”

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Read more: https://herald-review.com/news/state-and-regional/chicago-passes-500-homicides-on-track-for-one-of-the-most-violent-years-in-decades/article_5e5dbe16-327e-5a0d-969e-5abe3ee231c1.html

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Reply Chicago passes 500 homicides, on track for one of the most violent years in decades (Original post)
mahatmakanejeeves Aug 31 OP
keithbvadu2 Aug 31 #1
mucifer Aug 31 #2
keithbvadu2 Aug 31 #3
Polybius Aug 31 #7
greenjar_01 Aug 31 #9
Polybius Aug 31 #11
greenjar_01 Aug 31 #13
Polybius Aug 31 #15
greenjar_01 Aug 31 #16
Polybius Aug 31 #18
greenjar_01 Aug 31 #20
Polybius Aug 31 #22
bamagal62 Aug 31 #4
greenjar_01 Aug 31 #5
Progressive Jones Aug 31 #6
Polybius Aug 31 #8
greenjar_01 Aug 31 #10
Polybius Aug 31 #12
greenjar_01 Aug 31 #14
Polybius Aug 31 #17
greenjar_01 Aug 31 #19
Polybius Aug 31 #21
greenjar_01 Aug 31 #23
Polybius Aug 31 #24
roamer65 Sep 1 #25

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 07:40 PM

1. When Trump accepted the GOP nomination:

When Trump accepted the GOP nomination:

"I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end," he said. "Beginning on January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/politics/republican-convention-highlights-day-four/index.html

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 07:45 PM

2. he actually said that he knew a guy who would fix all the crime in Chicago.

I'm not making that up.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:19 PM

3. Trump threatened/promised to send in the feds to fix the violence.

Trump threatened/promised to send in the feds to fix the violence.

They called his bluff - no feds.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

7. Good thing he didn't

It would have been like Portland.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:29 PM

9. Feds were sent and are working

The Feds offered and accepted by Chicago are mainly ATF and FBI who are working on gang violence, not a bunch of no-badge thugs supposedly guarding a federal courthouse. In any case, the feds that were added are apparently having no discernible effect.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:33 PM

11. At this point I'm not really sure what can be done to stop it

It's a very complicated situation that's been going on for decades. If we teach not to kill in school, that won't work either. I'm at a loss.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #11)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

13. Well, you're in New York, right?

So what would you know about it anyway? Other than what's circulated in the conservative press?

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:39 PM

15. Yes, but I have family there

I go quite often, so I know a lot more than the average NYer.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #15)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:40 PM

16. Ah

OK...

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #16)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

18. The only we argue is about pizza

We're all on the same page politically.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:47 PM

20. Oh, I'll bet

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #20)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:50 PM

22. I tease, but I like your pizza a lot too

It's completely different, it's like comparing apples and oranges. Both are amazing.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:20 PM

4. Well, the first thought that

Came into my mind was, I wonder if someone is paying the gangs to make the violence worse. I smell a rat.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:37 PM

5. AmErIcAn CaRnAgE iS oVeR

I wish conservative shitheads would keep Chicago out of their mouths. It's obvious that they don't give a shit about Chicago or its people, but only care to score cheap political points. Hell, they probably laugh about the deaths. It's so immoral, isn't it, mahatmajeeves? A person would have to be a real piece of shit to engage in that kind of discourse.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:44 PM

6. But...but... Guns DON'T kill people... nt

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:25 PM

8. It's very difficult to get one legally in Chicago

The vast majority of Chicago gun violence is smuggled in.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:32 PM

10. It's not hard to buy a legal gun in Chicago

Don't be ridiculous.

The question of the illegal guns being smuggled in is separate, though it is certainly true that the guns in the hands of the gangs are mostly circulated through the illicit market. They come from straw purchases and direct sales from Indiana, Iowa, and downstate IL, where legal gun owners pretend their guns were stolen, gun shows black market sales, etc.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

12. It is hard for a carry permit

It's easier to get a stay-at-home license. But yes, the majority are smuggled in.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:36 PM

14. It's easy to buy a legal gun in Chicago

I live in Chicago.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:43 PM

17. Thanks to the Supreme Court it got easier

It did after Mayor Jane Byrne pushed through the ban on firearms not already registered with Chicago police in March 1982. The city's ban lasted until 2010, when the Supreme Court struck it down by a majority vote of 5-4. Two years later, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago struck down as unconstitutional the state's ban on carrying concealed firearms. In 2013, the General Assembly passed a law making Illinois the last state to grant its residents the right to concealed carry. Right now, New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco have stricter gun laws on the books, experts say.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-chicago-gun-laws-explainer-20171006-story.html

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Response to Polybius (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

19. LOL

No doubt your cousin pointed you to this article during your circumnavigations of "The Bean," yes?

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #19)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:48 PM

21. Brother, sister-in-law, and nephews, not cousin

We've talked about gun laws before. He said they were strict, but he likes them that way. I am a little to his right, seeing the very strict laws that I have here in NYC.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #21)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

23. What suburb do they live in?

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #23)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:58 PM

24. They live in South Deering

They've been there for 30 years. I'm in Staten Island here in NYC.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 1, 2020, 02:08 AM

25. Not to belittle the deaths, but Chicago has always been a violent city.

Especially during the time of prohibition and Capone.

I still love the town.

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