Fauci debunks theories of low CDC coronavirus death toll: 'There are 180,000-plus deaths' in U.S.

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Source: CNBC

Fauci’s comments come after some have claimed a new CDC update indicates only 6% of the nation’s total reported Covid-19 deaths actually died from the virus, and the remaining percent died of “other serious illnesses.”
At least 183,600 people have died from Covid-19 in the U.S. as of Tuesday, accounting for just over 21% of the globe’s total reported deaths.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/01/fauci-debunks-theories-of-low-cdc-coronavirus-death-toll-there-are-180000-plus-deaths-in-us.html

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1. CNBC feeds the rumor by denying the rumor

It's so wacko it doesn't deserve the light of day. It's like saying someone who died of a heart attack had a lack of circulation.

[yaesu]

2. the lie is being amplified on twitter, had to reply to a few tweets on my timeline debunking the

9000 deaths bs.

[Bigredhunk]

3. Ugh

This is always such a stupid f*cking argument!

Someone has high blood pressure (or whatever), they get Covid, then they die. For political purposes these morons try to argue that the person died b/c of the high blood pressure, not b/c of the Covid. Funny the high blood pressure never killed them until Covid came along.

[NewJeffCT]

8. many times, high blood pressure

can at least be mitigated with medication after a person has tried changing diet & exercising more.

[MoonchildCA]

4. My late fianc died from cancer, years ago, at the age of 37.

His death certificate read, acute renal failure, due to lymphoma. He would never have had renal failure, if he did not have lymphoma.
It’s the same with this disease, the eminent cause of death may be respiratory failure, or stroke, but it was caused by Covid. The person wouldn’t have had to have a previous underlying condition to have more than one cause written on their death certificate. It stands to reason, very few death certificates would just say Covid.

[stopdiggin]

5. The quick answer to this is EXCESS deaths

The U.S. has pretty good figures for mortality, month by month going back for a long number of years. The U.S. is seeing a quantifiable increase in deaths over the expected (or predictable) week after week since the pandemic took hold in March. Excess deaths.

https://www.sciencealert.com/2020-has-killed-up-to-200-000-extra-people-in-the-us-so-far

Please explain where these excess numbers are coming from -- if not SARS-CoV2. We'll wait.
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[progree]

6. Thanks for the link. I find the middle graph, the one that starts in 2017, especially interesting

[stopdiggin]

7. yep. just clear as a bell.

CDC data released August 12th.

(Oh -- and please try to tell me how the scientist have been trying to "politicize the data" -- for the last 30 or 40 years)
Again, we'll wait.

[nilram]

10. I was telling my sisters this just last night. Thanks for the link.

One of them (a conspiracy-wielding science denier) groused about deaths in her state being classified as from coronavirus even if they had a positive test result on autopsy, even if they died from an unrelated cause. I told her that states and local health departments try to remove ambiguity, but there always will be some ambiguity on a case-by-case basis. Excess deaths tells the real story.

[world wide wally]

9. He didn't die of suffocation.... He drowned

[Maeve]

12. It wasn't the car crash, he died of blood loss

Oh, we could go on like this forever!

[burrowowl]

11. Kick!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

13. K&R