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BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:28 PM Sep 2020

First covid-19 death linked to Sturgis Motorcycle Rally reported in Minnesota

Source: Washington Post




A Minnesota biker who attended the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally has died of covid-19 —- the first fatality from the virus traced to the 10-day event that drew more than 400,000 to South Dakota.

The man was in his 60s, had underlying conditions and was hospitalized in intensive care for several weeks after returning from the rally, said Kris Ehresmann, infectious-disease director at the Minnesota Department of Health. The case is among at least 260 cases in 11 states tied directly to the event, according to a survey of health departments by The Washington Post.

Epidemiologists believe that figure is a significant undercount, due to the resistance of some rallygoers to testing and the limited contact tracing in some states. As a result, the true scope of infections stemming from the event that ran from Aug. 7 to Aug. 16 is unlikely to ever be known. Public health officials had long expressed concern over the decision to move forward with the annual event, believed to be the largest held anywhere in the U.S. since the pandemic shelved most large-scale gatherings.

Now, just over two weeks after the conclusion of the rally, the Midwest and the Dakotas in particular are seeing a spike in coronavirus cases even as infections decline or plateau in the rest of the country. Besides the fallout from Sturgis, Ehresmann and other health officials attribute much of the increase in the Midwest to people not following public health guidelines, not wearing masks and attending social gatherings such as weddings and funerals.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/02/sturgis-rally-death-coronavirus/

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First covid-19 death linked to Sturgis Motorcycle Rally reported in Minnesota (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 OP
Play stupid games, Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2020 #1
+1 tanyev Sep 2020 #9
+2. nt iluvtennis Sep 2020 #14
No one could have foreseen. dchill Sep 2020 #22
K&R for stupid! secondwind Sep 2020 #2
Hey. None of us understand Republicans. Maybe, in his mind, Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #3
That's what a lot of them say PatSeg Sep 2020 #12
I feel sorry for his family. LisaM Sep 2020 #19
Kind of like QB Kirk Cousins...another dipshit Bengus81 Sep 2020 #54
+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #57
Hey, he clearly stuck it to teh libs by dying durablend Sep 2020 #76
I'm devastated. Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #77
No more contestants please, we have a winner! TheCowsCameHome Sep 2020 #4
Minnesota will see cases rising..... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2020 #5
Another spot to watch is Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #11
They are closer to the SD borderline. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2020 #34
Just so happens this was not Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #63
How did they have a huge wedding in Ghent? Americans are banned from entering Belgium except Celerity Sep 2020 #73
Ghent Minnesota is about Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #78
Ahhhhhhh, lol. I was unaware there was a Ghent, MN. Celerity Sep 2020 #79
Tons of towns Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #80
Yes, so true, hundreds at least Celerity Sep 2020 #81
Minnesota new cases: +34% in 15 days and setting daily new all-time highs. SDak: #2 hiest state per progree Sep 2020 #35
What a surprise. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #6
What shit luck, struck down by a hoax. dem4decades Sep 2020 #7
That was pretty quick. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2020 #8
No Thoughts and Prayers here aeromanKC Sep 2020 #10
Ummm... ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #13
For all we know BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #16
"Just a cold", or sinus problems... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2020 #20
Yup. BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #25
+1... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2020 #33
He Still Wasn't In ICU For Several Weeks ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #39
I had already checked some other sources BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #48
I Didn't ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #64
"Three is not several." BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #66
Several: more than two but not many. LanternWaste Sep 2020 #82
You Do Know... ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #83
Thank you. Stuff like this drives me crazy. This is another news story that doesn't "add up". Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #23
WaPo just changed it IronLionZion Sep 2020 #36
Well, That's Convenient ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #41
Let Bezos know how you feel IronLionZion Sep 2020 #62
No Way To Check Print Edition ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #65
I have a subscription to WaPo that also gives me the "e-replica" version of the actual printed paper BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #67
Hey, Thanks ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #70
You are welcome and that's if they even bother since news "moves so fast" BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #71
Here is what is in print this morning BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #75
Gee, what could go wrong? Initech Sep 2020 #15
1st of many LittleGirl Sep 2020 #17
There will be more where that came from. muntrv Sep 2020 #18
Nice Harley for sale in Minnesota!! AZ8theist Sep 2020 #21
F*ck you very much SD Governor Kristi Noem and SD GOP suegeo Sep 2020 #24
Noem and the SD GOP love their tourist dollars... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2020 #27
She is one of the worst of the nazi Stepford wives. She and the other Celerity Sep 2020 #74
As the president would say, no one could see that coming!,@#$& ashredux Sep 2020 #26
Well, I hope "owning the libs & freedumb" was worth it to him. catbyte Sep 2020 #28
249,999 to go greenman3610 Sep 2020 #29
That 260 count in eleven states is for sure an undercount. PatrickforO Sep 2020 #30
Wow! Delphinus Sep 2020 #68
Well, I never will, and at best it is an estimate. PatrickforO Sep 2020 #72
Gee hope he had a good time.. mountain grammy Sep 2020 #31
The world lost a rare and irreplaceable genius dalton99a Sep 2020 #32
I'm sure a lot of the guys who attended the Sturgis Rally... patphil Sep 2020 #37
That's what I'm thinking and to protect their Fuhrer........ Bengus81 Sep 2020 #51
Looking at the covid-19 cases resulting from the Sturgis Rally LittleWoman Sep 2020 #38
Dude was probably thinking it was so much fun IronLionZion Sep 2020 #40
#1 Iowa, #2 SoDak, #3 NoDak --in daily new cases per capita, 7 day moving avg. No kidding progree Sep 2020 #42
I suspect he brought the virus to Sturgis rather than contracting it there jmowreader Sep 2020 #43
Hah? LisaL Sep 2020 #46
I doubt "everyone" who went stayed the whole time. BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #52
That should have been told to doctors doing tracing..... Bengus81 Sep 2020 #53
We'll never know Crazy Sep 2020 #58
I had been scanning some other articles BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #60
Yep...not surprising to protect Trump and the idiot SD Governor Bengus81 Sep 2020 #61
Yes. That is what I think too. BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #49
Stupid Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #44
Better one of those assholes than some innocent person who inadvertently got exposed to them. . . BigDemVoter Sep 2020 #45
No masks and grandma's die Crazy Sep 2020 #50
Right as they were rolling in to town moreland01 Sep 2020 #47
Epidemiologists believe that figure is a significant undercount, due to the resistance of some rall riversedge Sep 2020 #55
It's so frustrating hearing stories like this! For those of us that take precautions & spend lots Illumination Sep 2020 #56
Sept 10th will be 14 days since the RNC super spreader on the WH lawn Bengus81 Sep 2020 #59
Prophetic ... BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #69

Baitball Blogger

(46,682 posts)
3. Hey. None of us understand Republicans. Maybe, in his mind,
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:38 PM
Sep 2020

this was a risk he was willing to take and it was worth it to him.

This is who they are. We just need to figure out how to keep them from taking us down with them.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
12. That's what a lot of them say
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:08 PM
Sep 2020

until they DO get it and end up in the ICU. Its easy to show great bravado about hypothetical situations. I hope he didn't make anyone else sick, but odds are that he probably did.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
19. I feel sorry for his family.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:46 PM
Sep 2020

Clearly, they are responding to bad information. What was in his brain that he couldn't see the risks? We'll never know, but I don't rejoice over these deaths. They make me really sad.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
54. Kind of like QB Kirk Cousins...another dipshit
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:33 PM
Sep 2020

"If I die, I die". He'll spew that RW Trump tough guy bullshit right up to the time his family loses someone because of HIM.

Baitball Blogger

(46,682 posts)
77. I'm devastated.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:56 AM
Sep 2020

Seriously, where I was raised, a nation where there was a lot of poverty and an expectation of self-control and discipline IN ORDER TO SURVIVE FROM BASIC THIRD WORLD PROBLEMS, they would have given him very little sympathy. They would have blamed it on him for being reckless with his survival skills.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,722 posts)
5. Minnesota will see cases rising.....
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:39 PM
Sep 2020

I am in Olmsted County where the Mayo clinic 3 miles from my house is. They have been excellent in reporting cases in and around the state.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Another spot to watch is
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:06 PM
Sep 2020

Lyon County. Huge Wedding in Ghent two weeks ago,now there is a major out break in Marshall and Redwood falls.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
63. Just so happens this was not
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:59 PM
Sep 2020

Sturgis related. Know of the Family that had this Wedding. In that area,10-15 in a family is very common and when a wedding or Funeral happens,you would find upward of 200 + relatives in attendance. Understand the spreaders came from Marshall and were employed by the same Company. As a result,that company went into shut down mode last week because of call outs related to this Wedding.

Again,who knows where the source came from originally,some of the workers at that Marshall Plant commute from Sodak border area.

Celerity

(43,107 posts)
73. How did they have a huge wedding in Ghent? Americans are banned from entering Belgium except
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 04:18 AM
Sep 2020

for a few urgent reasons. Same for most of the EU. Americans not welcome, and they have Rump to thank. It's a shame, as it hurts our tourism here, and would give many Americans a break from MAGAt Madness.

Stay safe WR.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
78. Ghent Minnesota is about
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:10 AM
Sep 2020

fifteen miles northwest of Marshall. Jokingly called the Belgium Capital of Minnesota.

Celerity

(43,107 posts)
79. Ahhhhhhh, lol. I was unaware there was a Ghent, MN.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 01:20 PM
Sep 2020

370 people, so not surprised I was not in the know.

I will stick to Belgium, lolol. We adore Antwerp. Some of our best friends are from there. A horrid tragedy the whole country has had with COVID-19.

😢

progree

(10,892 posts)
35. Minnesota new cases: +34% in 15 days and setting daily new all-time highs. SDak: #2 hiest state per
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:45 PM
Sep 2020

capita

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/minnesota-coronavirus-cases.html

Minnesota daily new cases, 7 day moving average (not per capita, this is the raw count)
8/17: 604
9/1: 807
+34% in 15 days

========================================================

Daily new cases, PER 100,000, 7 day moving average,
#1 Iowa - another close neighbor of SoDak
#2 South Dakota
#3 North Dakota
...
#23 Minnesota

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Scroll down to the "Cases and deaths by state and county" table.
Sort it by the "per 100,000" column that follows the "cases in last 7 days" column

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
8. That was pretty quick.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:50 PM
Sep 2020

No one in that crowd wearing a mask.
And the portapotties...I haven’t been anywhere in so long, I forgot all about those. Ewww.

Looks like there will be many cases coming from Sturgis.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
13. Ummm...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:20 PM
Sep 2020
The man was in his 60s, had underlying conditions and was hospitalized in intensive care for several weeks

This event ended 17 days ago. He was in ICU for several weeks?
Even if he was there for 3 days at the start (Aug 7), he came home, incubation period, got sick on the 12th or 13th, went into ICU a day or 2 later. That's 19 days tops. That's not several weeks.
Either this is sloppy writing, or the guy was never actually there. Unless he transferred from an ICU in MN to one in Sturgis, then got transferred back. That is unlikely.
I'm going with sloppy writing.

BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
16. For all we know
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:34 PM
Sep 2020

he could have already been "positive" BEFORE he even went and it only manifested while there and he may have left and went right into the hospital. I.e., he could have already been infected a week or more before even going there.

That was the whole danger of having an event like that. You had the risk of a number of attendees who may have already been infected and were either asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic, mildly symptomatic (think it was "just a cold" ), or very symptomatic but didn't give a damn. Because. Sturgis. Coronavirus-is-a-hoax.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,075 posts)
20. "Just a cold", or sinus problems...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:48 PM
Sep 2020

... two days ago my head felt like total junk and I was worried enough that I may have caught CV-45 that my blood pressure went up, head pounding. I used some Costco® AllerFlo nasal spray and it went away in a couple of hours. No doubt the winds brought some ragweed pollen my way. That is the only thing that hits me and members of my family that hard.

Just saying that with many people, if you don't think you are sick, you minimize the symptoms and carry on until it lasts a couple days and then see the doctor.

PS: I am not a MD nor do I play one on TV. Just my own experiences and observations.

BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
25. Yup.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:03 PM
Sep 2020

Although given what is going on with a raging pandemic (and about to go into flu season), I think some tend to consider other "possibilities", which is why there is an oft-updated checklist of possible symptoms, some of which don't comport to being due to a run-of-the-mill "cold" or even an allergy.

The bigger issue with this virus is that people get all kinds of combinations and permutations of symptoms when they DO actually have symptoms. Some have a fever but others don't. Some have gastrointestinal problems, others don't. Apparently a strong initial indicator is a "loss of taste" (although even that could be due to a severe sinus blockage and "taste" usually relies on the "smell" ). Another biggy seems to be the tiredness and ache - and to a level that seems to be worse than what a full-blown flu might incur. The initial "common" symptom was apparently shortness of breath.

So it is just a mess.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
39. He Still Wasn't In ICU For Several Weeks
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:49 PM
Sep 2020

I agree with everything you wrote, but the article was still poorly written. In fact, another reply to my post says they changed it!
Oooooops!

BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
48. I had already checked some other sources
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:09 PM
Sep 2020

including from Minnesota - e.g.,

Sturgis rider from Minnesota dies of COVID-19
Minnesota man is believed to be the first death due to infection at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
By Jeremy Olson Star Tribune
September 2, 2020 — 12:06pm


A participant in last month’s Sturgis Motorcycle Rally in South Dakota is among the 1,830 people in Minnesota who have died of COVID-19, the Minnesota Department of Health reported Wednesday.

The rider was a man in his 60s with underlying health conditions who was hospitalized and placed in intensive care following his infection with the coronavirus that causes COVID-19.

Minnesota health officials have identified at least 49 participants in the Sturgis event who have tested positive for the infection. Several other states have reported infections among Sturgis participants as well.

https://www.startribune.com/sturgis-rider-from-minnesota-dies-of-covid-19/572296082/


What is not known is when he actually "left" the event and was hospitalized nor do they say when he originally arrived there because apparently SD had reported a big pile of "early arrivals" there too. So it's entirely possible that he left early on (it "officially" ran 8/7/20 - 8/16/20), returned home "ill", entered the hospital with severe breathing difficulty, and was put into intensive care immediately (particularly if he had "underlying conditions" ), and remained until he passed away - which could have been several "weeks".

You can't make the assumption that he stayed until the end, came home, then went into the hospital and thus couldn't have been in ICU for "several weeks".

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
64. I Didn't
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:14 PM
Sep 2020

I used the case where he got there the first day and left on the 3rd.
Still under 3 weeks.
Three is not several.

BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
66. "Three is not several."
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:21 PM
Sep 2020


(yes I am gonna mess with you... IMHO if they had said "a couple weeks", people could legitimately argue that "a couple" = "2 weeks".

But "several weeks" could be anywhere from (more than one obviously) "2 weeks" up to some "low" number of weeks like 3 weeks! Because at "4 weeks" they could say "a month".

We just don't know because no one really knows (except for his family/friends/the hospital & the local/state health departments) when he got there and how long he stayed before returning to Minnesota.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
36. WaPo just changed it
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:45 PM
Sep 2020

it now says:

The man was in his 60s, had underlying conditions and was hospitalized in intensive care after returning from the rally, said Kris Ehresmann, infectious-disease director at the Minnesota Department of Health.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
41. Well, That's Convenient
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:52 PM
Sep 2020

I wonder if it was in the print version the original way. No delete and edit there.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
62. Let Bezos know how you feel
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:56 PM
Sep 2020

I would hope their print version has higher standards since they have deadlines.

The online versions of most news outlets have been getting sloppy for years since they figure they can always correct it quickly.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
65. No Way To Check Print Edition
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:16 PM
Sep 2020

Not available unless I drive to the big library, 25 miles north.
My little library only has Chicago & south suburban papers.

BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
67. I have a subscription to WaPo that also gives me the "e-replica" version of the actual printed paper
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:44 PM
Sep 2020

and since this story came out this afternoon as a breaking news (well after whatever print edition cutoff time they probably have), it's not in today's printed paper (just scanned through it and I even tried a search on on the term "sturgis" ). Would need to check tomorrow to see if they run it in that issue.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
70. Hey, Thanks
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 08:04 PM
Sep 2020

Let me know if copy editors did a different job on the piece.
I get that e version from the Chicago Trib, but have never even looked at it.
To be honest, I got a ridiculous deal on the subscription.
They offered 2 months for a buck.
I tried to sign on, but the thing stuck on "submit". I gave up after 2 tries.
Email says, " You forgot something". Then they offer 3 months for a buck.
Try again. Same thing.
Send email to circulation telling them what happened.
The apologize and offer me 12 month for 2 bucks.
Because the link took me to a different form & they gave me a promo code, the thing didn't hang up on Submit.
So I got a year's subscription for $2!
This happened in June, so I've got nearly 10 months left!

BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
71. You are welcome and that's if they even bother since news "moves so fast"
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 08:16 PM
Sep 2020

Their online "live" site updates pretty much 24/7 but the print edition obviously not so much and it tends to have way less than what they put online. I know you remember the days of the "morning" and "evening" editions of papers. That has gone the way of the dodo.

BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
75. Here is what is in print this morning
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:22 AM
Sep 2020

First is how the article appears as a column on the page (appears on pg. 7 taking up a space that is 2/3rds of a page wide and a ballpark of 3/5 of a page long) and the second is a zoom of it. Looks like they used the last revised content for print.





LittleGirl

(8,279 posts)
17. 1st of many
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:41 PM
Sep 2020

and how many end up as long haulers that suffer without end?
Elect a Clown, Get a Circus.
for those that die because of their entitlement attitude.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,075 posts)
27. Noem and the SD GOP love their tourist dollars...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:20 PM
Sep 2020

... anyone that has visited the Black Hills knows that tourist trap attractions are a dime a dozen out there. There is a whole segment of the SD population that relies on tourism and hunting to get them through the year.

And the state sales tax, every county and municipality relies on it as they add their own 1 to 6% depending on local, "initiatives".

Celerity

(43,107 posts)
74. She is one of the worst of the nazi Stepford wives. She and the other
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 04:28 AM
Sep 2020

White Power Cornfed Brunette Barbie, Kim Reynolds, are having a contest to see which one can virtually tug job Trumpy the best without (one would hope!) actually physically petting his orange mushroom. Ernst is in the mix too. The true meaning of Mini-Strokers.

catbyte

(34,333 posts)
28. Well, I hope "owning the libs & freedumb" was worth it to him.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:20 PM
Sep 2020

I just wonder how many people he put at risk.

PatrickforO

(14,558 posts)
30. That 260 count in eleven states is for sure an undercount.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:29 PM
Sep 2020

I used known infection rates and morbidity rates and came out with 6,800 of the actual people who attended Sturgis dying of COVID-19.

Not that I want that. I am sorry for this guy and his family and the rest of the people he infected, because you know he did.

The irony is he probably flies one of those yellow Gadsden 'Don't Tread on Me' flags. Because when he exercised his 'right' to attend Sturgis, not social distance and not wear a mask, he actually treaded on the rights of those around him.

I think we've been 'rugged individuals' for so long that sometimes we forget that we also need to look out for each other.

PatrickforO

(14,558 posts)
72. Well, I never will, and at best it is an estimate.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 09:35 PM
Sep 2020

I never wish death on people, but some bring it upon themselves and we cannot stop them.

patphil

(6,150 posts)
37. I'm sure a lot of the guys who attended the Sturgis Rally...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:46 PM
Sep 2020

would rather "suffer in silence" than admit they caught the virus there.

LittleWoman

(259 posts)
38. Looking at the covid-19 cases resulting from the Sturgis Rally
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:49 PM
Sep 2020

When examining the covid19 cases resulting from the Sturgis Rally you need to consider not only the cases of the rally attendees and their families, etc when they returned to their home states, but you must also consider who they might have infected on their way home. If they rode their bikes they probably had to stop for gas and food and maybe hotel accommodations along the way depending on how far they had to go. I expect it is likely that there will be an increase in cases in these sorts of travel stops along the main routes to Sturgis, for example along I-90. These cases might not come to mind when considering the Sturgis Rally but they are part of the spread. In many ways this event might be considered the super spreader event from Hell.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
40. Dude was probably thinking it was so much fun
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:50 PM
Sep 2020

and that's more important to some people. Which sucks pretty bad for anyone he infected.

He was probably infected before going to Sturgis. You never how many such people you would encounter in situations like this. I would assume that I and everyone else I encounter has COVID, and do what I can to avoid spreading it to anyone else.

progree

(10,892 posts)
42. #1 Iowa, #2 SoDak, #3 NoDak --in daily new cases per capita, 7 day moving avg. No kidding
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:52 PM
Sep 2020

Last edited Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:21 PM - Edit history (1)

Daily new cases, PER 100,000, 7 day moving average,
#1 Iowa - another close neighbor of SoDak
#2 South Dakota
#3 North Dakota
...
#23 Minnesota

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Scroll down to the "Cases and deaths by state and county" table.
Sort it by the "per 100,000" column that follows the "cases in last 7 days" column

========================================================

So far, neighbor Minnesota is not in too bad a shape (around the median in new cases per capita) but it's rising, setting daily new all-time highs

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/minnesota-coronavirus-cases.html

Minnesota daily new cases, 7 day moving average (not per capita, this is the raw count)
8/17: 604
9/1: 807
+34% in 15 days


jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
43. I suspect he brought the virus to Sturgis rather than contracting it there
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:53 PM
Sep 2020

That is a REALLY short timeline from infection to death.

The public health officials might want to send his picture to Harley shops, post it on biker websites etc..."If you were within six feet of this man at Sturgis, get your ass to the doctor TODAY and get tested."

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
46. Hah?
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:56 PM
Sep 2020

Event was 10 days, he fell ill after returning from the rally, was hospitalized for couple of weeks and then died.
How could you possibly conclude from that he didn't contract the virus at Sturgis?

BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
52. I doubt "everyone" who went stayed the whole time.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:22 PM
Sep 2020

I expect some may have chosen to go for a few days to meet up with friends and attend concerts by certain bands and then left, etc. I believe the entire event "officially" went on from 8/7 - 8/16 and apparently a number of people arrived "early" and probably left "early" (or could have stayed the entire time)... or came "later" and left "later" (to maybe do some touring around the area with less crowds around).

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
53. That should have been told to doctors doing tracing.....
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:27 PM
Sep 2020

To see just how long he was there and try and do the math. Reading an article before the event locals say that many will clear out by the next Wed so they spend around five days there.

Between this clown and the other 48 or so there could be hundreds and hundreds infected and will needlessly suffer or die and never attended an event that should have been canceled.

Crazy

(5 posts)
58. We'll never know
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:42 PM
Sep 2020

I personally don't believe anyone in south Dakota is even doing contract tracing and if they are others are working overtime to make sure all data and statistics released by the regime are as misleading as possible. Obviously the people are not understanding what's happening for some reason.

BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
60. I had been scanning some other articles
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:51 PM
Sep 2020

and apparently they are having huge issues with contact-tracing among attendees (and it's obvious why there would be problems).

Hell here in the Philly area just a few weeks ago, our tracers reported only about a 65% "successful contact" rate, with almost 1/3rd of them having either claimed to have had "no contact" with anyone or refused to give names of anyone they did have contact with.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
61. Yep...not surprising to protect Trump and the idiot SD Governor
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:55 PM
Sep 2020

There are a lot of pics and videos at Sturgis. Some of them might show up seeing how they loved to flaunt not wearing masks and being right next to each other.

BumRushDaShow

(128,448 posts)
49. Yes. That is what I think too.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:15 PM
Sep 2020

He was either asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic when he went there and may have left early when symptoms were getting worse.

I think any media and/or further details from either state (SD or MN) about his case, would run into HIPAA issues.

Crazy

(5 posts)
50. No masks and grandma's die
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:16 PM
Sep 2020

Sent my two cents to local news...

Great job Kristi and Don in generating a 6% increase in tax revenue for a grand total of $1.3 million by holding the Sturgis rally over citizen objections and ignoring common sense pandemic prevention methods like wearing a paper mask and keeping social distance. I know my elderly aunt who died nearby of covid a few days ago is ecstatic there is some benefit to the good people of South Dakota and organizers; Party on patriots!

God only knows how many senseless deaths occurred and I doubt if anyone including state health department is even trying to figure it out. I'm sure the pain and suffering of the survivors was worth it too. I'm constantly amazed at the intellectual prowess of my fellow South Dakota natives!

moreland01

(736 posts)
47. Right as they were rolling in to town
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:06 PM
Sep 2020

I saw some of the bikers being interviewed and they all said that they were willing to take the risks. #Covidiots

I don't feel sorry for them at all.

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
55. Epidemiologists believe that figure is a significant undercount, due to the resistance of some rall
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:33 PM
Sep 2020



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Epidemiologists believe that figure is a significant undercount, due to the resistance of some rallygoers to testing and the limited contact tracing in some states. As a result, the true scope of infections stemming from the event that ran from Aug. 7 to Aug. 16 is unlikely to ever be known.
 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
56. It's so frustrating hearing stories like this! For those of us that take precautions & spend lots
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:36 PM
Sep 2020

of time @ home, this is such an undermining & I don't give a sh** attitude for you, myself or anyone else! This is our LIVES we're talking about! Looks like we will be in for a long & tragic fall & winter! Medical care may become a scarcity & luxury with these unintelligent uninformed ignoramuses roaming amongst us!

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
59. Sept 10th will be 14 days since the RNC super spreader on the WH lawn
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:49 PM
Sep 2020

Let's see how that works out. Any of those rich RW fucks will probably claim they were at Sturgis to keep the heat off of Trump.

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