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BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:03 PM Sep 2020

7 Rochester Police Officers Suspended in Death of Black Man Whom They Hooded

Source: New York Times

A light snow was falling on Rochester, N.Y., the streets empty and dark at 3 a.m., when the call came in over the police radio: A naked man was running outside, under the influence of PCP, and shouting that he had the coronavirus.

Rochester police officers arrived and handcuffed the man, Daniel Prude, 41. He sat in the road, rambling and incoherent, praising Jesus before demanding that the officers give him a gun, according to video footage of the March 23 encounter. Then he began spitting on the ground. An officer unfurled a mesh hood — a safety device to prevent being spit on by prisoners — and pulled it over Mr. Prude’s head.

When he tried to rise, officers forced Mr. Prude facedown on the ground, one of them holding his head to the pavement, according to video from the officer’s body camera. Mr. Prude’s demands that the hood be removed turned into gurgling noises as an ambulance arrived. Moments later, Mr. Prude stopped breathing. He was revived in the ambulance and hospitalized, but he never regained consciousness. Seven days later, he died.

Those two fatal minutes, brought to national attention on Wednesday with the release of the raw police videos by Mr. Prude’s family, are the latest to roil yet another American city outraged by the death of a Black man in custody. Protesters took to the streets of Rochester, with Mr. Prude’s relatives raising questions familiar from prior fatal encounters with the police, such as why the officers have not been suspended. On Thursday, the mayor of Rochester, Lovely Warren, suspended seven officers involved in the confrontation.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/03/nyregion/daniel-prude-police-rochester.html



Wanted to make this comment - there is this thing with "PCP" ("Angel Dust" ) that keeps surfacing over and over, despite all the focus on other drugs like the opioids (including heroin and fentanyl, etc) and cocaine (with its derivatives like crack), as well as the obsession with cannabis... Where the hell is that stuff coming from?

It never seems to get the attention of drug-interdiction specialists and I have noted that some of the worst police abuse cases in urban areas, happens when confronting someone who police claimed "was on PCP" when apprehended, where it causes severe hallucinations and violent reactions. As a street drug, I'm not getting what is going on - i.e., whether it is "cheaper" fix and is being substituted for something like coke unbeknownst to the buyer/user or what.
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7 Rochester Police Officers Suspended in Death of Black Man Whom They Hooded (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 OP
Morning Edition /NPR article today, 9/3/20 irisblue Sep 2020 #1
Thanks BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #2
These 7 guys need to go to jail!!!! onecent Sep 2020 #3
Suspended with pay during the investigation... EarthFirst Sep 2020 #4
Local paper has 2 free articles irisblue Sep 2020 #5
Thank you again and here is their free "ust updated" article on the suspension BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #8
PCP is synthetic. It is made and used mostly right here in the USA IronLionZion Sep 2020 #6
And see that is a problem BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #7
The "defund police" plan puts more funding into treatment of addiction IronLionZion Sep 2020 #9
Yup BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #12
Not That Hard To Make Either ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #10
It's one way Americans can pay for lung cancer treatment IronLionZion Sep 2020 #11
Except For The Stuff Walter Did... ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #13

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
2. Thanks
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:27 PM
Sep 2020

I remember seeing a thread where the raw video had been posted after it had been released.

And this whole incident happened 5 months ago.

One of the issues of the so-called "defund the police" effort was to actually rethink how police are being utilized. I.e., instead of having them be required to deal with psychotic (whether drug-induced or chronically mentally ill) individuals, a whole different group needs to be brought in to handle it. The police have little or no training on dealing with these types of individuals.

And that idea expands to handling those who are autistic or otherwise mentally challenged, who will often not "follow commands" just because a cop barks them, assuming they are being obstinate when they get no response. So they end up beaten to a pulp or killed, with the excuse that they "didn't cooperate" or "weren't follow orders" or were "resisting arrest".

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
6. PCP is synthetic. It is made and used mostly right here in the USA
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:56 PM
Sep 2020

the difference is it's largely urban. Read about the effects here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phencyclidine

Opioids get more attention because of its roots in rural Appalachia and suburban communities with prescription painkillers. Even a bloviating bastard presidential medal of freedom winner was addicted to opioids (Rush Limbaugh).

So it's Trump country vs Dem cities. Also PCP is smoked while opioids mostly start off with legal prescription pills.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
9. The "defund police" plan puts more funding into treatment of addiction
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:11 PM
Sep 2020

so sure police can take down someone who is violent and dangerous, but treating root causes should hopefully be more of a preventive measure so fewer people are running around high on PCP. Social workers can hopefully remove kids from a house full of drugs and put them someplace safer. and so on. GOP think about these problem differently because they don't have to encounter the families impacted by it like many urban folks do.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
12. Yup
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:32 PM
Sep 2020

I had posted that above - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142575186#post2

But regarding what the GOP "sees" - when you have the hundreds in their own communities kneeling, sitting, or keeled over on sidewalks, swaying and unresponsive, with a baby and a toddler still strapped in the car seats of the cars that they just got out of after they parked - they make sure their cops got trained on handling that and giving those under the influence and/or ODing, narcam. They do little to determine or address the "whys" for them either, but they manage to cover it up or gloss over it as a "crises" deserving careful handling, without the need to inflict bodily harm and/or fatal maneuvers against them when these drug-addicted individuals "don't respond to a command" or "cooperate".

I.e., it's a racial problem.

ProfessorGAC

(64,877 posts)
10. Not That Hard To Make Either
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:13 PM
Sep 2020

Anybody with a BS in chemistry could take a process outline and develop a procedure.
Give them a 12 liter flask, and condenser and a Dean-Stark and they could make it in any lab.
Compositional analysis would be tough in one's garage but, not sure purity & safety are at the front of meth dealers' minds!

ProfessorGAC

(64,877 posts)
13. Except For The Stuff Walter Did...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:35 PM
Sep 2020

..that he couldn't really do!
I could not suspend disbelief enough for that show.
Too many "impossibles". After 3 episodes, I was done.

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