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Botany

(70,501 posts)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:17 AM Sep 2020

The US coronavirus death toll is projected to reach 410,000 in the next four months

Source: CNN

(CNN)A new model often cited by top health officials raised its projections Friday, predicting over 410,000 coronavirus deaths nationwide by January 1.

That would mean an additional 224,000 Americans lost in the next four months -- more than double the 186,000 deaths reported by Johns Hopkins University.

The model from the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation points to declining mask use in some regions from a peak in usage in early August. The scenarios in the model suggest 122,000 of those lives could be saved with near-universal mask use. It also warns the death toll could be much higher -- over 620,000 -- if all restrictions are eased.

"If a herd immunity strategy is pursued, meaning no further government intervention is taken from now to Jan 1st, the death toll could increase to 620,000,"

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html



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The US coronavirus death toll is projected to reach 410,000 in the next four months (Original Post) Botany Sep 2020 OP
Those maskless Trumpsters won't be missed. CaptYossarian Sep 2020 #1
And there won't be anyone at their funerals either, since we can't gather in large groups. Initech Sep 2020 #13
trumps/GOP math, its 6 more dead from COVID for a total of 97 since it began right? beachbumbob Sep 2020 #2
Total US military deaths World War II: 405,399 and that took nearly four years sarge43 Sep 2020 #3
Good God you are right Botany Sep 2020 #6
Yup. All that's left is the Civil War: 655,000 sarge43 Sep 2020 #7
I think if you include Cholera deaths in the Civil war the # jumps way up Botany Sep 2020 #11
The disease casuality rate, Civil War, was 71.4% per 1,000. sarge43 Sep 2020 #15
That's equal to the number of US military deaths in WW2 LastDemocratInSC Sep 2020 #4
GOP is going for herd immunity IronLionZion Sep 2020 #5
Correct. EarthFirst Sep 2020 #9
You're right. It all started with TX Lt Gov. calling for senior citizens to sacrifice themselves NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #16
There were experts/models cited back in June that predicted 200,000 by the end of September BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #8
We are at 191,114 deaths today IronLionZion Sep 2020 #14
And those school openings are really generated spikes BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #17
South Carolina is now doing "its part." Botany Sep 2020 #18
They always promised the South will rise again IronLionZion Sep 2020 #19
That's over 1,800 deaths per day. patphil Sep 2020 #10
To trump, these are losers and suckers.... getagrip_already Sep 2020 #12

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
1. Those maskless Trumpsters won't be missed.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:24 AM
Sep 2020

We can just play the videos of them getting bounced out of WalMart at their funeral. It's a fitting tribute to the cult members.

On my block, I'll be known as the "Omega Man".

Initech

(100,068 posts)
13. And there won't be anyone at their funerals either, since we can't gather in large groups.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:23 AM
Sep 2020

So yeah there will be no one to remember them by.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
3. Total US military deaths World War II: 405,399 and that took nearly four years
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:42 AM
Sep 2020

All those who have supported Trump: Rot in hell. Never forget, never forgive.



Botany

(70,501 posts)
6. Good God you are right
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:51 AM
Sep 2020

We are already @ the # of WW II combat deaths or will soon pass that # 291,557 (wiki)

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
7. Yup. All that's left is the Civil War: 655,000
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:02 AM
Sep 2020

I include non direct combat deaths: Usually Murphy's Law in effect, routine FUs, pushing equipment and men beyond their limits, disease, the non Purple Heart hits. Dead is dead.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
11. I think if you include Cholera deaths in the Civil war the # jumps way up
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:22 AM
Sep 2020

But this is just a nightmare.

And it is all on Trump.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
15. The disease casuality rate, Civil War, was 71.4% per 1,000.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:45 AM
Sep 2020

Typhoid "the soldier's disease" probably killed as many if not more than cholera.

Until vaccines kicked in, infection was the soldier's haunt.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
9. Correct.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:17 AM
Sep 2020

It’s isn’t officially been stated as such in so many words; however the setup is being arranged if you connect the dots...

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
16. You're right. It all started with TX Lt Gov. calling for senior citizens to sacrifice themselves
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:50 AM
Sep 2020

for the economy.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
14. We are at 191,114 deaths today
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:36 AM
Sep 2020

Red states decided to open up and send kids back to school and too many people still resist masks

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
17. And those school openings are really generated spikes
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 11:20 AM
Sep 2020

and we are seeing that here in PA - particularly with the colleges.

Gettysburg College just went into a total student "lockdown" and quarantine in their dorms this past Tuesday, now with at least 58 cases since mid-August (25 in the most recent testing period).

Temple U suspended in-person classes for the rest of the fall semester (with 237 cases as of yesterday).

Bloomsburg U went all-virtual after reaching 218 cases (so far)

And on and on...

patphil

(6,172 posts)
10. That's over 1,800 deaths per day.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:20 AM
Sep 2020

I know these guys put a lot of study and thought into it, but it seems a bit high.
The ability to treat this virus is improving steadily.
I think their estimate is about 100,000 high.

Please note, this is my non-professional estimate. It just seems to me that we're getting much better at keeping people alive until their natural body defenses are able to cope with the virus.

Anyway, I sure hope they're wrong.

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
12. To trump, these are losers and suckers....
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:23 AM
Sep 2020

for not having enough money and influence to get all the best treatments, like plasma therapy, before you get sick.

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