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BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:28 PM Sep 2020

Top Adviser To Operation Warp Speed Calls An October Vaccine 'Extremely Unlikely'

Source: NPR

Dr. Moncef Slaoui is one of two men that President Trump has put in charge of Operation Warp Speed, which has a goal of developing a COVID-19 vaccine by January. The former GlaxoSmithKline executive said having states prepared is "the right thing to do" in case a vaccine does become ready, but he acknowledged that having one by October or November was "extremely unlikely."

Slaoui said that he "firmly" believed a vaccine could be ready by the end of the year and that "we may have enough vaccine by the end of the year to immunize probably I would say between 20 [million] and 25 million people." He said immunizing the U.S. population as a whole would take until "the middle of 2021."

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"Trying to propose that there is going to be a vaccine available before the election actually may undermine people's trust in the process to develop an efficacious and safe vaccine," Khan said.

Slaoui said he understands why the date might concern people but added that the people working on Operation Warp Speed aren't interested in the politicization of the vaccine. He said vaccines would not be introduced before clinical trials are completed.


Read more: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/09/03/909279006/top-adviser-to-operation-warp-speed-calls-an-october-vaccine-extremely-unlikely

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Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
2. Trump doesn't care if there is a vaccine. He just wants an ANNOUNCEMENT of a vaccine.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:36 PM
Sep 2020

Just like he didn't care if Ukraine investigated Biden. He just wanted them to ANNOUNCE an investigation.

It's all smoke and mirrors for a con man.

IronLionZion

(45,428 posts)
4. They might put out some garbage before the election
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:39 PM
Sep 2020

consequences be damned. They won't care if it works or not.

Botany

(70,491 posts)
5. Even if they had a vaccine that was ready to go today there is not enough time to do the ...
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:40 PM
Sep 2020

.... clinical trials, analyze the data, and watch the people who got the vacccine for its
benefits and or side effects. Let alone to manufacture and distribute the vaccine too.

Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
6. Exactly..they should have been at manufacturing stage for months by now if there was a vaccine
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:49 PM
Sep 2020

Available by October

Botany

(70,491 posts)
8. My science background ( a long time ago) is more in ecology/biology/hort but to me the whole ...
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 02:00 PM
Sep 2020

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.... thing is kabuki. They are developing a production and distribution system for a vaccine
that does not even exist and that vaccine will not be real until they do clinical trials on it and
as of now that has happened.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
16. I Can See It, B
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:28 PM
Sep 2020

The different vaccines are going to have differing routes of manufacture.
If we say there's 5 candidates, a wise plan would be to have 2 or three sites with existing infrastructure for the technology needed to mass produce each of the 5.
All 10-15 sites will never be used, but 2 to 5 will already be prepped, with process outlines, draft procedures, and first stage operations training in place.
That's what happened with H1N1. I know a biochemist that works for one of the sites that did this, but they never ended up in mass manufacture. But, they were ready, months in advance.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
10. The vaccine was completed in February
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 02:32 PM
Sep 2020

They’re doing trials right now. October is unlikely, but approval by end of the year is not.

Anyway, it’s good to see this guy pushing back on October. He’s a Trump appointee, so it’s at least comforting to hear he’s not going to roll over.

Chainfire

(17,530 posts)
7. I think he is wrong
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:52 PM
Sep 2020

I will bet that before election day, there will be an approved vaccine. Maybe by Spring there will be a safe and effective vaccine.

Two thirds of Americans polled will not trust a "political" vaccine rushed to production for the election. Now if they would just vote.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
9. Count me out
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 02:06 PM
Sep 2020

I will not take a vaccine that is being promoted by this regime.

Until a vaccine obtains approvals from legitimate governments, count me out.

What's legitimate? Not quite sure these days. UK, maybe. Germany. Japan. Switzerland. And no company that has conspired with the US in this kabuk theater nonsense. GlaxoSmithKline, for example.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
11. Trump just said that vaccine nonsense because he know some folks vote early.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 02:35 PM
Sep 2020

Then he old them to go and vote a second time.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
12. Hell, this year is extremely unlikely.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:17 PM
Sep 2020

I would say we will not get any definite answers on it until 1/21/21.

lark

(23,092 posts)
14. Yeah, he says that, but can he stop drumpf from doing this - probably not.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:03 PM
Sep 2020

dumpf has no limits on his willingness to kill us for his own personal gain and will usually find another fascist grifter who will go along with the plan - as long as drumpf lines his pockets.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
15. I will gladly take a vaccine.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:17 PM
Sep 2020

One year after it has been given to millions of people and less than 10 people per million die and very few have major problems.

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